The North Atlantic night was cold and moonless, lit only by a frosty dusting of stars overhead. The surface of the ocean was smooth and black, resembling a waveless “millpond”.
Then at approximately 11:20 PM, Seaman James Fleet, ship’s forward lookout peered into the darkness and saw a black shape that was only slightly less dark than the surface of the smooth ocean. Fleet peered at the shape for a second or two longer to be sure that he really was seeing something. Then he quickly turned and sharply rang the lookout bell at his back three times, signaling “object ahead”. He picked up the lookout’s telephone to the bridge.
“Yes?” answered Sixth Officer William Moody, on the bridge below.
“Iceberg, right ahead,” shouted Fleet frantically.
“Thank you,” replied Moody automatically and hung up. “Iceberg right ahead,” he called out to First Officer William Murdoch. By now Murdoch could see the shape of the iceberg through the forward windows of the darkened bridge and quickly rushed to the engine room telegraph. While signaling “full speed astern” he ordered Quartermaster Hichens at the wheel “hard a’starboard” who promptly turned the spun the wheel hard over. The order, harking back to the days of sailing ships, when putting the wheel to starboard (to the right) caused the ship to turn to port (the left).
But the 000 foot long liner, the “largest moving object designed by the hand of Man” knifed through the nearly flat black icy water at twenty-two and one half knots directly towards the iceberg. In the lookout post above, seaman Fleet and Lee watched in horror as the distance between the speeding liner and the sinister black shape in her path grew less and less by every second.
Then slowly, seemingly only by mere inches, the liner’s bow finally began to swing to the left. More … more … would they miss the berg?
Like an automobile skidding on ice, the turning ship’s was now swinging her side towards the nearing iceberg. First Officer Murdoch ordered the Hichens to turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, ‘hard aport’, to correct the swing and curve the ship’s course around the looming berg. Hichens did as he was ordered and when he could not turn the wheel any further he reported, “Wheel hard a‘port, sir.”
Nerve-racking seconds crawled by … then Titanic slowly began to respond to her new directions by slowly turning to starboard ---
but it was too late.
With a sound that was later reported to have been like “a large metal plate being slowly dragged over rough gravel”, the side of the ship’s bow “nudged” the submerged bulk of the iceberg.
It had not been a direct impact. It was more like the ship “bounced” along the side of the iceberg’s submerged bulk pressing against her iron plates causing the rivets holding them together to shear off for nearly 300 feet along her starboard side rupturing six of her watertight compartments.
From that moment onward, Titanic, the luxurious “Ship of Dreams” and fifteen-hundred of her passengers were doomed.
NOTE: Though tracing is looked down on in artistic circles I believed that it was justifiable here. The lookout bell that you see in my picture was traced from a photograph of the actual bell that James Fleet rang on that April 12th, 1912 night, and was recovered from the sunken wreck more than seventy years later.
Posted exactly 99 years from the day of the actual event.
RIP
Then at approximately 11:20 PM, Seaman James Fleet, ship’s forward lookout peered into the darkness and saw a black shape that was only slightly less dark than the surface of the smooth ocean. Fleet peered at the shape for a second or two longer to be sure that he really was seeing something. Then he quickly turned and sharply rang the lookout bell at his back three times, signaling “object ahead”. He picked up the lookout’s telephone to the bridge.
“Yes?” answered Sixth Officer William Moody, on the bridge below.
“Iceberg, right ahead,” shouted Fleet frantically.
“Thank you,” replied Moody automatically and hung up. “Iceberg right ahead,” he called out to First Officer William Murdoch. By now Murdoch could see the shape of the iceberg through the forward windows of the darkened bridge and quickly rushed to the engine room telegraph. While signaling “full speed astern” he ordered Quartermaster Hichens at the wheel “hard a’starboard” who promptly turned the spun the wheel hard over. The order, harking back to the days of sailing ships, when putting the wheel to starboard (to the right) caused the ship to turn to port (the left).
But the 000 foot long liner, the “largest moving object designed by the hand of Man” knifed through the nearly flat black icy water at twenty-two and one half knots directly towards the iceberg. In the lookout post above, seaman Fleet and Lee watched in horror as the distance between the speeding liner and the sinister black shape in her path grew less and less by every second.
Then slowly, seemingly only by mere inches, the liner’s bow finally began to swing to the left. More … more … would they miss the berg?
Like an automobile skidding on ice, the turning ship’s was now swinging her side towards the nearing iceberg. First Officer Murdoch ordered the Hichens to turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, ‘hard aport’, to correct the swing and curve the ship’s course around the looming berg. Hichens did as he was ordered and when he could not turn the wheel any further he reported, “Wheel hard a‘port, sir.”
Nerve-racking seconds crawled by … then Titanic slowly began to respond to her new directions by slowly turning to starboard ---
but it was too late.
With a sound that was later reported to have been like “a large metal plate being slowly dragged over rough gravel”, the side of the ship’s bow “nudged” the submerged bulk of the iceberg.
It had not been a direct impact. It was more like the ship “bounced” along the side of the iceberg’s submerged bulk pressing against her iron plates causing the rivets holding them together to shear off for nearly 300 feet along her starboard side rupturing six of her watertight compartments.
From that moment onward, Titanic, the luxurious “Ship of Dreams” and fifteen-hundred of her passengers were doomed.
NOTE: Though tracing is looked down on in artistic circles I believed that it was justifiable here. The lookout bell that you see in my picture was traced from a photograph of the actual bell that James Fleet rang on that April 12th, 1912 night, and was recovered from the sunken wreck more than seventy years later.
Posted exactly 99 years from the day of the actual event.
RIP
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Arrrrgh! I've hit an "inaccuracy" berg!
You are one hundred percent correct! It was the 14th! O_O I should have thought that something was wrong, April 12th 1912.
My only escuse is that I have a pet medical crisis going on for the past couple of days and I am not fully focusing on much else.
I need someone to check my text next time before I submit.
My apologies to all my watchers.
You are one hundred percent correct! It was the 14th! O_O I should have thought that something was wrong, April 12th 1912.
My only escuse is that I have a pet medical crisis going on for the past couple of days and I am not fully focusing on much else.
I need someone to check my text next time before I submit.
My apologies to all my watchers.
*hugs* It's OK Lionus. No one's perfect and we have all made mistakes before.
But trust me, it's nowhere near as big a mistake as the Italian cartoons about the Titanic disaster. Here's two clips of one where a giant octopus saves everyone and tries to hold the ship together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcj_d8NpsRY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwqUvI6VVs&feature=related
But trust me, it's nowhere near as big a mistake as the Italian cartoons about the Titanic disaster. Here's two clips of one where a giant octopus saves everyone and tries to hold the ship together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcj_d8NpsRY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwqUvI6VVs&feature=related
*chuckling* It's a good cartoon, Leo. And I have to compliment the creators of it for holding to the degree of historical accuracy they did in depicting the ship and the event. Really quite well done.
I do understand that there is quite a bit of leeway allowed in cartoons for children, but there were two historical mistakes as far as strict accuracy goes. Captain RJ Smith did not survive the sinking of his ship and the lettering on the sides of the lifeboats shown should have been "RMS TITANIC". "SS" is the nautical abbreviation for United States Ship". Titanic was of British registry and her name's actual suffix was Royal Mail Ship.
None the less, I give the creators of the cartoon an "A" for treating a historical event, and a tragic event, with the degree of dignity that I think gets through to children.
I do understand that there is quite a bit of leeway allowed in cartoons for children, but there were two historical mistakes as far as strict accuracy goes. Captain RJ Smith did not survive the sinking of his ship and the lettering on the sides of the lifeboats shown should have been "RMS TITANIC". "SS" is the nautical abbreviation for United States Ship". Titanic was of British registry and her name's actual suffix was Royal Mail Ship.
None the less, I give the creators of the cartoon an "A" for treating a historical event, and a tragic event, with the degree of dignity that I think gets through to children.
After a bit of a search, I stand corrected. You are 100% correct. "SS" before a ship's name did and does stand for "Steam Ship". Only ships that were very fast and supposedly were top of the line were allowed to carry British mail and therefore earned the naval suffix to their name of "RMS".
*Tallyhawk gets a cookie*
*Tallyhawk gets a cookie*
Of some interest on this webpage they have some photos of the iceberg that hit the Titanic, no one will know for sure but here's the link: http://www.titanic-nautical.com/RMS.....eberg-FAQ.html
Well is the tree that happens to fall on a house during a storm a killer? Is the rock that tumbles down to start an avalanche a killer? No the iceberg like many things in nature simply was there, it was man's oversight of nature that I think ultimately doomed the ship. Ironically enough the idea of the ship being unsinkable didn't occur til after the ship sank.
Humans have been applying anthropomorphic labels to many of the natural causes of tragedies in order to express their own emotional responses to the tragedies. I do not think it rare today that large numbers of Japanese refer to the recent earthquake and subsequent tsunami that killed thousands of their fellow countrymen as a “killer earthquake” and “killer tsunami.” While it is factually illogical to be angry at the rock that started the avalanche that killed your whole family, somehow however that seems a lot more emotionally satisfying than having to live with the explanation “Sh*t Happens”.
I have always been moved by the tragedy. My first oil painting was of the lighted Titanic cutting through the night-time water with just the hint of the berg in front of her.
I can not watch any of the serious television documentaries dealing with the event or the underwater exploration of the wreck without being overcome by a quieting feeling of sadness.
I can not watch any of the serious television documentaries dealing with the event or the underwater exploration of the wreck without being overcome by a quieting feeling of sadness.
I wanted to go beyond just an artistic interpretation of that moment and add the opportunity for viewers to “touch” Titanic herself, if only through a tracing of a photograph of the actual signal bell that was sounded on the fateful night. From the comments up to this point, my much appreciated watchers seem to understand that, and I am grateful to them and to you.
Oh wow! You got it from the thumbnail? You are indeed a sensitive individual, LionBreed.
"Phobia of the ocean"? Then I take it then you will not be on board the centennial re-tracing of the Titanic's path that is supposed to take place next year at this time by "Titanic II"?
"Phobia of the ocean"? Then I take it then you will not be on board the centennial re-tracing of the Titanic's path that is supposed to take place next year at this time by "Titanic II"?
Ohhhhhhhh my no. XP I'm afraid the mass media is crucial to my phobia. I was subjected to both Titanic and Jaws at the age of 10, and I always have frequent dreams of drowning (just 2 days ago was the latest :p). It makes me feel bad because as my religion centralises on the goodness of animals, here I am petrified of your average Cornish Weaver Fish
I apologize for laughing, but that last line was funny.
Dreams of drowning or being overwhelmed by a wave are often the subconscious’ way of describing our own fears of being “drown” by uncontrolled emotions or desires.
But I do agree with you about the movie “Jaws”. For months after seeing the film I was uncomfortable with being in any body of water -- even a bathtub. :-D
Dreams of drowning or being overwhelmed by a wave are often the subconscious’ way of describing our own fears of being “drown” by uncontrolled emotions or desires.
But I do agree with you about the movie “Jaws”. For months after seeing the film I was uncomfortable with being in any body of water -- even a bathtub. :-D
The Titanic tragedy has had a special interest to me for many many years. My first oil pianting showed the liner as she cut through the black nighttime water towards the berg. I have many books on the subject and have watched almost all the documentaries and motion pictures relating to it.
I am NOT an other worldly nut case, but I feel very drawn to the disaster. But then again I am drawn to a number of historical places and events. A "spiritual" connection? Don't know.
Heh, and yes, I too felt the "Titanic echo" when I went on a week-long cruise to Bermuda. No icebergs, but the thought of two or three miles of water directly beneath me was a little unsettling.
The inspiration for this picture ... well I tend to mentally "experience" the historical events that I read about, wondering as I read, what was it like to be this person or that at any moment of the event. Consequently I have a number of You Are There historical "memories" in my mind to draw from.
I am NOT an other worldly nut case, but I feel very drawn to the disaster. But then again I am drawn to a number of historical places and events. A "spiritual" connection? Don't know.
Heh, and yes, I too felt the "Titanic echo" when I went on a week-long cruise to Bermuda. No icebergs, but the thought of two or three miles of water directly beneath me was a little unsettling.
The inspiration for this picture ... well I tend to mentally "experience" the historical events that I read about, wondering as I read, what was it like to be this person or that at any moment of the event. Consequently I have a number of You Are There historical "memories" in my mind to draw from.
Thank you, Dream Tiger. The picture was my answer to the question, "What must it have been like to have been that lookout on that night at that precise moment?"
The tragedy touches something in us, else why would it still manage to affect us almost a hundred years later like something that happened only yesterday?
The tragedy touches something in us, else why would it still manage to affect us almost a hundred years later like something that happened only yesterday?
James Fleet, the lookout who first spotted the iceberg and sounded the alarm, survived the sinking. I have no information regarding Reginald Lee's fate.
All the members of the small orchestra who did in deed play "Nearer My God To Thee" as the liner slowly floundered, perished. Their performance is a testiment to courage. A courage that we today can not understand.
All the members of the small orchestra who did in deed play "Nearer My God To Thee" as the liner slowly floundered, perished. Their performance is a testiment to courage. A courage that we today can not understand.
Pretty much what I envisaged him to be thinking at the too. But Titanic was unsinkable and so what was there to worry about?
Oh I really wish I could have seen that exhibit, Jvanankat. I'm not so sure I could have touched the bell -- a bit too intense for me. But, I have heard the bell being rung. While not rung as energetically as seaman Fleet probably rang it on that night, the soft tones sounded like ghostly whispers from that night.
Oh I really wish I could have seen that exhibit, Jvanankat. I'm not so sure I could have touched the bell -- a bit too intense for me. But, I have heard the bell being rung. While not rung as energetically as seaman Fleet probably rang it on that night, the soft tones sounded like ghostly whispers from that night.
That assured unchallengeable self-important attitude is the hallmark of builders of “perfection”.
The Titanic disaster has elements of a Greek tragedy to it. Engineered to “perfection” the liner was the biggest, the fastest, and the most luxurious, and it was passengered by those whose wealth & power gave them complete control over their lives and the world around them -- or so they thought.
There was so much hubris involved in the ship and her passengers that one could almost imagine one of the Ancient gods having been offended by it all and meting out divine wrath in retribution.
The Titanic disaster has elements of a Greek tragedy to it. Engineered to “perfection” the liner was the biggest, the fastest, and the most luxurious, and it was passengered by those whose wealth & power gave them complete control over their lives and the world around them -- or so they thought.
There was so much hubris involved in the ship and her passengers that one could almost imagine one of the Ancient gods having been offended by it all and meting out divine wrath in retribution.
Except that most of the rich folks survived. And, I point out, it wasn't the engineers that labeled her "unsinkable." That was marketing. There was also some question about the quality of the steel used in her construction. Does not matter how good the design if the construction is lacking. But, the worst of all had to be putting a ship to sea that did not have enough life boats for everyone. She had enough per regs but that is ALWAYS a minimum for safety.
Popular history and particularly popular 20th century liberal writings of the event have portrayed “the rich” as “unfairly” surviving the disaster. Oddly enough though, no one points that finger at the Second Class passengers (what we might term ‘economy class’) or the Third Class passengers (those poor emigrating from Europe) for surviving.
The statistical fact is that all paying passengers (First, Second AND Third Class) had a higher survival rate in the disaster then those aboard the Titanic who worked. The reverse of that is that a higher percentage of the Titanic’s crew perished than did passengers, but apparently that is not an issue with which latter day story-tellers feel is socially relevant to the point they wished to make.
While the ship’s plates were good for the standards of the day, the iron in the rivets that held the plates together was sub-par. Too much sulpher in them. This tended to make the rivets brittle in the near-freezing water of the North Atlantic at that time of the year, causing them to snap off rather than bend when the plates came under pressure and were straining in opposite directions.
Then there was the day‘s method of putting the rivets in -- “cold stamping“, which essentially involved punching the rivets through the plates. This method unfortunately tended to create microscopic fractures in the metal holding the rivets, making them less likely to stay in place.
The British Board of Trade, the very body that would conduct the inquiry on that side of the Atlantic after the disaster, had officially rated Titanic as having more lifeboats than required according to its own outdated regulations.
So, as Winston Churchill said of a much later disaster, ‘the terrible ifs accumulated’
The statistical fact is that all paying passengers (First, Second AND Third Class) had a higher survival rate in the disaster then those aboard the Titanic who worked. The reverse of that is that a higher percentage of the Titanic’s crew perished than did passengers, but apparently that is not an issue with which latter day story-tellers feel is socially relevant to the point they wished to make.
While the ship’s plates were good for the standards of the day, the iron in the rivets that held the plates together was sub-par. Too much sulpher in them. This tended to make the rivets brittle in the near-freezing water of the North Atlantic at that time of the year, causing them to snap off rather than bend when the plates came under pressure and were straining in opposite directions.
Then there was the day‘s method of putting the rivets in -- “cold stamping“, which essentially involved punching the rivets through the plates. This method unfortunately tended to create microscopic fractures in the metal holding the rivets, making them less likely to stay in place.
The British Board of Trade, the very body that would conduct the inquiry on that side of the Atlantic after the disaster, had officially rated Titanic as having more lifeboats than required according to its own outdated regulations.
So, as Winston Churchill said of a much later disaster, ‘the terrible ifs accumulated’
In the link Silvermane posted, it says 60% of First Class survived while only 25% of Third Class survived. The crew was 24%, about the same as Third Class. I'd say money had something to do with it.
True. She did have more life boats than the regulations required. But, if you look at any company that is serious about safety, you will find that they consider the regulations to be the absolute minimum. Of course, the regulations were changed immediately afterward as is true of most disasters. The company by which I am employed has its own set of requirements to which we design. Once we are assured we meet those, meeting the regs is a snap.
As for the "terrible ifs", you will find that most disasters come about when they accumulate. There is seldom a single cause to a major disaster. It is a bunch of things coming together at the same time that turn "well that's annoying" into "we're all dead."
True. She did have more life boats than the regulations required. But, if you look at any company that is serious about safety, you will find that they consider the regulations to be the absolute minimum. Of course, the regulations were changed immediately afterward as is true of most disasters. The company by which I am employed has its own set of requirements to which we design. Once we are assured we meet those, meeting the regs is a snap.
As for the "terrible ifs", you will find that most disasters come about when they accumulate. There is seldom a single cause to a major disaster. It is a bunch of things coming together at the same time that turn "well that's annoying" into "we're all dead."
Let’s play “My Source Says”:
According to “Titanic: An Illustrated History” Hyperion Press,
First Class 130 Lost, 199 Saved
Second Class 166 Lost, 119 Saved
Third Class 536 Lost, 174 Saved
Crew 685 Lost, 214 Saved
So among all the souls on board the liner, Titanic’s crew suffered the highest number of deaths in the disaster, beating out Third Class by 149 deaths -- BUT it also had a higher number of survivors than the evil rich in First Class.
The English social custom carried over from the Victorian era and before of the rich and powerful being entitled by birth to special privileges also decreed that those “below stairs”, the butlers and maids and workmen were not to be considered as worthy of notice by their “betters“. They were in effect socially “invisible“.
Today, almost a century later, we consider such social snobbery to be artificial and pretentious, almost oppressive. Yet in the telling and re-telling of the Titanic disaster by our “liberated” 20th Century writers and movie-makers, those who worked and perished ‘below stairs’ on the liner are made to be just as invisible.
According to “Titanic: An Illustrated History” Hyperion Press,
First Class 130 Lost, 199 Saved
Second Class 166 Lost, 119 Saved
Third Class 536 Lost, 174 Saved
Crew 685 Lost, 214 Saved
So among all the souls on board the liner, Titanic’s crew suffered the highest number of deaths in the disaster, beating out Third Class by 149 deaths -- BUT it also had a higher number of survivors than the evil rich in First Class.
The English social custom carried over from the Victorian era and before of the rich and powerful being entitled by birth to special privileges also decreed that those “below stairs”, the butlers and maids and workmen were not to be considered as worthy of notice by their “betters“. They were in effect socially “invisible“.
Today, almost a century later, we consider such social snobbery to be artificial and pretentious, almost oppressive. Yet in the telling and re-telling of the Titanic disaster by our “liberated” 20th Century writers and movie-makers, those who worked and perished ‘below stairs’ on the liner are made to be just as invisible.
Raw numbers do not really tell the story. You have to non-dimentionalize the data to get a high level view of things. When you do that, you find that the third class passengers and the crew both lost around three-quarters of their number. First class lost only 40% (a little over a third) of their number. Clearly, a first class passenger had a better chance than third class or crew.
And, I did not call the rich evil. They simply had more resources and used them to survive. Same as any life form in a bad situation. For predator and prey, it is hoof and claw. For humans, it is social position and cash.
In any case, it was a needless tragedy. Either more life boats or, ideally, a more cautious captain would have prevented the disaster.
And, I did not call the rich evil. They simply had more resources and used them to survive. Same as any life form in a bad situation. For predator and prey, it is hoof and claw. For humans, it is social position and cash.
In any case, it was a needless tragedy. Either more life boats or, ideally, a more cautious captain would have prevented the disaster.
No, you did not called call the rich as being evil. However today’s writers and movie-makers seem perfectly willing to portray the wealthy on with the Titanic as “evil” for somehow unfairly surviving. There is never any third class or crew members of Titanic depicted as unfairly pushing to head of the line to survive. Even in James Cameron’s depiction of the tragedy the third class passengers come off as being almost heroic; dancing merrily below decks before the collision, while the evil rich were fondling their paintings or plotted their social climbing.
Now of course this may be excused as we in our morally superior and socially liberal 21stCentury look back on what appears to us as archaic and backward class prejudice. But in our own way our writers and entertainment-makers (who, a number of them have become quite wealthy) perpetuate our own social stereotypes by continually portraying the poor as somehow noble and patiently long-suffering, while the rich are shallow, ignoble and selfish. Can’t there be any selfish criminal poor while occasionally being some rich that are occasionally honest and self-sacrificing?
Survival rates on board the Titanic seemed to reflect the physical closeness of those on board to the lifeboats. Those in first-class, obviously closer than second-class, who in turn were close than third class and lastly the crew who were furthest away from them.
The tragedy seems to resonate with people over the decades as a lesson in not becoming too complacent in believing in the unshakable security of our lives and our plans for our lives. From top to bottom on Titanic status and position did not count for very much on that cold April night.
And lastly poor Capt. Smith. Chosen not only because of his seniority among the liner captains of the White Star LInes, but also because he had spent his career schlepping the rich and influential back and forth across the Atlantic for decades without incident. After all, with Titanic being the new crown jewel of the White Star steamship lines they certainly weren’t going to put her into the hands of anyone but their most experienced and responsible captain.
But to use a modern description for the chain of events leading up to the disaster, “S**t happened.”
Now of course this may be excused as we in our morally superior and socially liberal 21stCentury look back on what appears to us as archaic and backward class prejudice. But in our own way our writers and entertainment-makers (who, a number of them have become quite wealthy) perpetuate our own social stereotypes by continually portraying the poor as somehow noble and patiently long-suffering, while the rich are shallow, ignoble and selfish. Can’t there be any selfish criminal poor while occasionally being some rich that are occasionally honest and self-sacrificing?
Survival rates on board the Titanic seemed to reflect the physical closeness of those on board to the lifeboats. Those in first-class, obviously closer than second-class, who in turn were close than third class and lastly the crew who were furthest away from them.
The tragedy seems to resonate with people over the decades as a lesson in not becoming too complacent in believing in the unshakable security of our lives and our plans for our lives. From top to bottom on Titanic status and position did not count for very much on that cold April night.
And lastly poor Capt. Smith. Chosen not only because of his seniority among the liner captains of the White Star LInes, but also because he had spent his career schlepping the rich and influential back and forth across the Atlantic for decades without incident. After all, with Titanic being the new crown jewel of the White Star steamship lines they certainly weren’t going to put her into the hands of anyone but their most experienced and responsible captain.
But to use a modern description for the chain of events leading up to the disaster, “S**t happened.”
Wow, seems you've been busy lately.
Really cool piece Lionus, I like the night time lighting you've given this. The light from the deck below hitting the lookout spot is a really nice touch. I'm used to seeing bright lighting in your work, so this is more easy on the eyes. Also well done expressions it conveys alarm very well.
Excellent work on this one Lionus! Keep it up!
Really cool piece Lionus, I like the night time lighting you've given this. The light from the deck below hitting the lookout spot is a really nice touch. I'm used to seeing bright lighting in your work, so this is more easy on the eyes. Also well done expressions it conveys alarm very well.
Excellent work on this one Lionus! Keep it up!
The “job” I assigned to the lighting in this picture was in the telling of the story’s where and when. Remote and alone in their lookout post, Titanic’s luxurious presence below is only implied to the lookouts by that upward lighting from below.
The expressions are what the whole point of the picture is about. Conveying to the viewer the surprise, shock, and perhaps first twinge of fear of that first terrible moment of recognition.
What a treat it is to receive a comment regarding the “mechanics” of a picture. Especially a comment that deals square on with the particular challenges of the picture.
Thanks muchly for the praise, Raithwal. *favs your comment*
The expressions are what the whole point of the picture is about. Conveying to the viewer the surprise, shock, and perhaps first twinge of fear of that first terrible moment of recognition.
What a treat it is to receive a comment regarding the “mechanics” of a picture. Especially a comment that deals square on with the particular challenges of the picture.
Thanks muchly for the praise, Raithwal. *favs your comment*
The Titanic exhibit came through town here a few years ago (and had a repeat engagement last year). It was a breathtaking display. One of the things that served to personalize the exhibition was that they gave you a 'boarding pass' going in with the name of a passenger. At the end, after seeing some of the salvaged memorabilia, rooms set up to duplicate those on board, even getting to physically handle a piece of the recovered hull, was a place to check the name on your boarding pass to see if 'you' survived or not.
I didn't. And I honestly felt, after walking through the exhibit, like I'd been kicked in the stomach.
As for myself on April 12, I was celebrating the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's first space flight by watching a real-time re-creation of his flight path as shot from the ISS. Per aspera ad astra!
I didn't. And I honestly felt, after walking through the exhibit, like I'd been kicked in the stomach.
As for myself on April 12, I was celebrating the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's first space flight by watching a real-time re-creation of his flight path as shot from the ISS. Per aspera ad astra!
Wow! What a clever way to personalize the visit. Seeing the recreations, then touching an actual piece of Titanic herself, and then finally seeing if you “survived” the “voyage” … heh, just typing that out gave me a chill. I can entirely understand that “kick in the stomach” feeling even from a distance.
Heh, odd that Yuri’s flight seems so far away in time now while the Titanic disaster seems to be so “recent”. Maybe that is because things that happen to cosmonauts and astronauts are things that happen only to special (trained) people, while the Titanic disaster happened to people from all levels of society.
Thanks very much for recalling your visit, Kefan.
Heh, odd that Yuri’s flight seems so far away in time now while the Titanic disaster seems to be so “recent”. Maybe that is because things that happen to cosmonauts and astronauts are things that happen only to special (trained) people, while the Titanic disaster happened to people from all levels of society.
Thanks very much for recalling your visit, Kefan.
What's a little jarring is to realize that the Apollo landings are further in the past to my elder niece than World War II is to me! There was only that all-to-brief three year window, and those of us who remember it just can't explain to those who aren't.
Anyway, yes. The Titanic disaster is not merely historic, it is folkloric. It's a classic Greek tragedy, hubris leading inevitably to ate (even though no one ever called it unsinkable without qualification before the disaster--always qualified, as virtually or nearly or almost unsinkable); Clotho spins, Lachesis measures, and Atropos wields her scissors against both immigrant and Astor.
If the Titanic exhibition ever comes through your neck of the woods, I recommend it highly.
Anyway, yes. The Titanic disaster is not merely historic, it is folkloric. It's a classic Greek tragedy, hubris leading inevitably to ate (even though no one ever called it unsinkable without qualification before the disaster--always qualified, as virtually or nearly or almost unsinkable); Clotho spins, Lachesis measures, and Atropos wields her scissors against both immigrant and Astor.
If the Titanic exhibition ever comes through your neck of the woods, I recommend it highly.
yeah, like my titanic picture of the grand staircase flooding (though it is horribly drawn) i looked up closeths they would have worn at that time period and youd be surprised on how good a female fur looks with a LONG skirt on
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That sudden crashing sense of horror that Fleet must have felt at that instant was the emotion that I wanted to share with the viewers of this picture. For the more knowledgeable, from that moment on, fifteen hundred souls were doomed.
Yes, for someone who can “get into” the movie (while there are very good movie-makers, there are also very good movie viewers), the inevitability of it all and the feeling of loss and emptiness at the end are very very sad.
Yes, for someone who can “get into” the movie (while there are very good movie-makers, there are also very good movie viewers), the inevitability of it all and the feeling of loss and emptiness at the end are very very sad.
I think that is only to be expected. The event did happen over a century ago and events much closer to us in Time are hotly disputed by historians. That we don’t know with absolute certainly … well that is the sort of lack of knowledge that pushes an event into legend.
Wow! I watch it occasionally... I am a huge Barbara Stanwyck fan. The film was pretty much standard melodrama, but the ship really caught my imagination. I actually expected more out of 'Titanic', but thought that it was a pretty good movie about the boat...
I also rather like the idea that 'porting around' the berg was what did the ship in.... that it should have been hit head on, which would have required the replacement of the bow, but only one or two of the watertight compartments would have been flooded.
The surface of an ocean is as “slippery” a surface for a ship as an icy road is for a tractor-trailer truck. You can turn the nose of your ship/truck to avoid striking an object head-on, but by turning the vehicle one way, the rear of the vehicle tends to swing the vehicle side-ways to the object.
Naturally then, the driver or navigator has to try to turn the nose in the other direction so as to swing the middle and tail of the vehicle around the object.
While hitting an object head-on, which can be a successful maneuver, no one thinks of doing that in the few seconds one has before striking an object. Titanic was responding properly to that “swing around the berg” maneuver, but she had been going too fast and therefore was just too damn close to the berg.
From eyewitnesses in the boiler room and forward cargo hold, the edge of the berg punctuated a two hundred foot “dotted line” along her side through a number of her forward watertight spaces. None of the small holes in the “dotted line“ about two feet above the deck were fatal, but together they doomed the ship.
Naturally then, the driver or navigator has to try to turn the nose in the other direction so as to swing the middle and tail of the vehicle around the object.
While hitting an object head-on, which can be a successful maneuver, no one thinks of doing that in the few seconds one has before striking an object. Titanic was responding properly to that “swing around the berg” maneuver, but she had been going too fast and therefore was just too damn close to the berg.
From eyewitnesses in the boiler room and forward cargo hold, the edge of the berg punctuated a two hundred foot “dotted line” along her side through a number of her forward watertight spaces. None of the small holes in the “dotted line“ about two feet above the deck were fatal, but together they doomed the ship.
I drive a semi for a living, and I definitely agree with your analogy. Also, the Titanic and her sister ships had grossly undersized rudders. From what I understand, not enough was known at the time about super liners... they were very new. And... there is an interesting NG documentary about the rivets used, that they were truly substandard, not that they were just iron and the plates of the hull were steel.
As I understand it, the ONLY way the ship, as built, could have survived was to ram the berg (similar to another ship something like 30 years earlier), and you are absolutely correct about the slow response of the ship to the helm, as well as the content of the rivets, the lack of binoculars in the Crow's Nest, the speed over a dead calm sea (even if Smith had gone an additional number of miles south to avoid ice) and the seeming disregard of ice warnings.
As I understand it, the ONLY way the ship, as built, could have survived was to ram the berg (similar to another ship something like 30 years earlier), and you are absolutely correct about the slow response of the ship to the helm, as well as the content of the rivets, the lack of binoculars in the Crow's Nest, the speed over a dead calm sea (even if Smith had gone an additional number of miles south to avoid ice) and the seeming disregard of ice warnings.
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