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This is the final stage pic of my fish tank. For those who are having a hard time with figuring out what the world is those black things are, they are (Halloween) tomb stones (4 in all) with green glass stones across black gravel. In the middle is a skull casting and behind it a fake tree stump. In front of the tomb stones are a fake log and a fake coral reef hill. In the tank is 20 different kinds of fish (mollies, one beta fish and a few random fish, I can’t think of there names at this time but they were cool looking) but most of them are black and gold, goldfish.
This is the final stage pic of my fish tank. For those who are having a hard time with figuring out what the world is those black things are, they are (Halloween) tomb stones (4 in all) with green glass stones across black gravel. In the middle is a skull casting and behind it a fake tree stump. In front of the tomb stones are a fake log and a fake coral reef hill. In the tank is 20 different kinds of fish (mollies, one beta fish and a few random fish, I can’t think of there names at this time but they were cool looking) but most of them are black and gold, goldfish.
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Oh what a great looking tank! But wow it's extremely overstocked. First of all, goldfish prefer cooler temperatures than tropical fish like platies or bettas. That alone should be reason enough to house them separately. Goldfish are also large waste producers, and should be housed in large aquariums. (minimum 20 gallons for one fancy goldfish, and 75 gallons for one common/comet goldfish)
I suspect you will run into water quality issues and see some, if not all, of your fish die off. Considering the goldfish alone should live to be 15-20+ years old, that's not too good. I suggest getting the goldfish into some other tank, a tank just for them. Using plastic storage bins is the cheapest way to house them, a 50 gallon one is around $20. Much cheaper than a tank. If you cannot get them into something bigger, I would highly suggest giving them to someone who can, or back to the store if at all possible.
I see you also have fancy goldfish and common goldfish mixed, that's not a good idea. The commons will usually pick on or kill the fancy goldfish as they get older (if they manage to last that long in that tank) and will get big enough to eat the betta as adults. Definitely not a good situation. :P Sorry to rant like this, but I just can't see a tank like that and not say something. :)
I suspect you will run into water quality issues and see some, if not all, of your fish die off. Considering the goldfish alone should live to be 15-20+ years old, that's not too good. I suggest getting the goldfish into some other tank, a tank just for them. Using plastic storage bins is the cheapest way to house them, a 50 gallon one is around $20. Much cheaper than a tank. If you cannot get them into something bigger, I would highly suggest giving them to someone who can, or back to the store if at all possible.
I see you also have fancy goldfish and common goldfish mixed, that's not a good idea. The commons will usually pick on or kill the fancy goldfish as they get older (if they manage to last that long in that tank) and will get big enough to eat the betta as adults. Definitely not a good situation. :P Sorry to rant like this, but I just can't see a tank like that and not say something. :)
Oh good! But keep in mind you will need 60 gallons of water for the fancy goldfish alone, meaning no other fish in the tank. And you'll need a 75 for the comet you have in there. If you cannot get them into tanks that size within the year, you should re-home them. If you don't it will adversely affect their health and could very well kill them.
Your tropical fish must have been ill. Filter intakes are not strong enough to harm healthy fish, unless the fish are still small enough to be sucked up between the intake, meaning they'd have to be fry (baby fish). I suspect they were sick and died because of the waste build up caused by the goldfish, because like I said they are large waste producers. For the sake of the fish left over, get them into something big pronto. If the new tank your getting isn't big enough, you could go with the storage bin idea like I said. Besides, goldfish look nicer from above anyway. :P
Also, please please please take the betta out. He is a solitary fish that needs warm water, CLEAN water, and his own space. Those goldfish are going to be nothing but trouble for him, and could kill him. He'd be much happier in his own tank, maybe something small like a five gallon.
If you want more information on bettas you could join this forum: http://ultimatebettas.com/
And for goldfish you could try this forum: http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/
Both are full of experienced fish keepers that would enjoy helping you with any questions or problems you might have, and it's a good place to show off your pets. <3
Your tropical fish must have been ill. Filter intakes are not strong enough to harm healthy fish, unless the fish are still small enough to be sucked up between the intake, meaning they'd have to be fry (baby fish). I suspect they were sick and died because of the waste build up caused by the goldfish, because like I said they are large waste producers. For the sake of the fish left over, get them into something big pronto. If the new tank your getting isn't big enough, you could go with the storage bin idea like I said. Besides, goldfish look nicer from above anyway. :P
Also, please please please take the betta out. He is a solitary fish that needs warm water, CLEAN water, and his own space. Those goldfish are going to be nothing but trouble for him, and could kill him. He'd be much happier in his own tank, maybe something small like a five gallon.
If you want more information on bettas you could join this forum: http://ultimatebettas.com/
And for goldfish you could try this forum: http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/
Both are full of experienced fish keepers that would enjoy helping you with any questions or problems you might have, and it's a good place to show off your pets. <3
it is cool. today I got my new tank and transfer my all of my fish into the new tank (I think I may lose one today, I have to wait and see). Once I get my new tank fix up (More gravel and a few more fake stuff) I will have the new photo pic of it up. As for the betta fish it has been getting alone with the other gold fish for 4 now 5 months well. Also the pet shop that I am go to for my fish are doing the same thing as well. From the way I see it, along as you do not have another fighting fish type in the tank with it get along with just fine. As for the pet shop they place one betta fish in the tank with each type of fish they sell.
I was thinking that i should place my old tank in the kitchen or the living room but I am having a hard time thinking of a good theme for it. wish me luck
I was thinking that i should place my old tank in the kitchen or the living room but I am having a hard time thinking of a good theme for it. wish me luck
Oh, I hope all your fish make it! :C
You could always plant the old tank! I love the look of planted tanks. You could get some easy to care for low light plants like java fern, anacharis, anubias, crypts, and swords like amazon sword. Here is a fairly good guide to starting a planted tank. http://www.aquarticles.com/articles.....nted_Tank.html
Unfortunately, pet store employees don't know what they're talking about all the time. Indeed, it is very common to hear bad advice from them, often resulting in your pets dying. I've seen/heard of it happening more than once. Some stores will just hire anyone, even if they don't know anything about pets. Never trust one source of information anyway, always go out and do your own research before coming to a conclusion. Taking the advice of one pet store worker is never wise.
Anyway, nothing is ever wrong until something goes wrong, as they say. Of course they will be ok for now, but so are two bettas in the same tank. Until they start fighting and kill each other. But they were ok for maybe a minute or two.The snakes that are housed together are perfectly fine until one eats the other. The birds fed nothing but seeds are fine until they develop diseases and become overweight. See what I mean? Your goldfish are creating too much waste in such a small tank, and after being exposed to so much waste your betta is now at a much higher risk of getting sick, developing ammonia burns, fin rot, etc. Plus they are solitary fish, they ALWAYS prefer to be in a tank by themselves. Having other fish forces them to share their territory, something that is just against their very nature.
Simply put, the two fish prefer entirely different set ups, you can't really get to a middle ground for them. Goldfish need water to be 65-70F, 20 gallons of water per fancy goldfish/70 gallons per common, an air stone (This is very important! As cold water fish they do not absorb oxygen as easily as warm water fish.), a very strong filter, and a moderate current.
Bettas need 75-80F water, little to no current at all, and prefer to be by themselves above all else.
Also, how big is the new tank?
You could always plant the old tank! I love the look of planted tanks. You could get some easy to care for low light plants like java fern, anacharis, anubias, crypts, and swords like amazon sword. Here is a fairly good guide to starting a planted tank. http://www.aquarticles.com/articles.....nted_Tank.html
Unfortunately, pet store employees don't know what they're talking about all the time. Indeed, it is very common to hear bad advice from them, often resulting in your pets dying. I've seen/heard of it happening more than once. Some stores will just hire anyone, even if they don't know anything about pets. Never trust one source of information anyway, always go out and do your own research before coming to a conclusion. Taking the advice of one pet store worker is never wise.
Anyway, nothing is ever wrong until something goes wrong, as they say. Of course they will be ok for now, but so are two bettas in the same tank. Until they start fighting and kill each other. But they were ok for maybe a minute or two.The snakes that are housed together are perfectly fine until one eats the other. The birds fed nothing but seeds are fine until they develop diseases and become overweight. See what I mean? Your goldfish are creating too much waste in such a small tank, and after being exposed to so much waste your betta is now at a much higher risk of getting sick, developing ammonia burns, fin rot, etc. Plus they are solitary fish, they ALWAYS prefer to be in a tank by themselves. Having other fish forces them to share their territory, something that is just against their very nature.
Simply put, the two fish prefer entirely different set ups, you can't really get to a middle ground for them. Goldfish need water to be 65-70F, 20 gallons of water per fancy goldfish/70 gallons per common, an air stone (This is very important! As cold water fish they do not absorb oxygen as easily as warm water fish.), a very strong filter, and a moderate current.
Bettas need 75-80F water, little to no current at all, and prefer to be by themselves above all else.
Also, how big is the new tank?
thankz for the word, I have been reading up on a betta breeder here on my main web site http://news.deviantart.com/article/139787/ and he gave me a lot of info as well. as for the new tank it is a 29 to 30 gallon tank. I have it all set up without the tank hood which cost 3O bucks and I will be getting it later on. At 1st I thought it would be a hard to deal with since I had to pour the water into the new tank but the job went well (but getting more water to fill the new tank took a lot of time to do). Also I think I came up with a great theme for my old tank.
Well, any upgrade is better than no upgrade, but that's still to small. :C Have you tested your water recently? You didn't cycle your tank before adding fish to it, did you? Cycling is a very important part of fishkeeping, I highly suggest learning about it and it's benefits since it's key to maintaining a healthy aquarium in the long term (15+ years).
Here is a simplified version of cycling: http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.php?showtopic=52645&st=0&p=524121&fromsearch=1&#entry524121
And here is a more in depth explanation: http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=8199
I gotta say you really can't expect to keep healthy long lived fish unless you research their care before buying them. Your goldfish will not live their full lifespan in a small tank, that's the sad truth. :C Your betta may, but there is a difference between living a thriving, you know? Here are some care sheets for goldfish I think you'll find useful and to explain why I'm so worried about them being kept in a small tank.
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....howtopic=45531
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=4460
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=5660
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....howtopic=29004
http://www.goldfish-care.com/goldfish_care.php
http://www.aquariumfishwonders.com/.....-a-glass-bowl/
http://www.goldfish-care.com/goldfish_care.php
http://thegab.org/Goldfish/goldfish-basics.html
Like I suggested earlier, you can keep them in large plastic storage bins no problem. They're substantially cheaper than glass tanks and I personally think they look nice when planted.
Here is a simplified version of cycling: http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.php?showtopic=52645&st=0&p=524121&fromsearch=1&#entry524121
And here is a more in depth explanation: http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=8199
I gotta say you really can't expect to keep healthy long lived fish unless you research their care before buying them. Your goldfish will not live their full lifespan in a small tank, that's the sad truth. :C Your betta may, but there is a difference between living a thriving, you know? Here are some care sheets for goldfish I think you'll find useful and to explain why I'm so worried about them being kept in a small tank.
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....howtopic=45531
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=4460
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....showtopic=5660
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.....howtopic=29004
http://www.goldfish-care.com/goldfish_care.php
http://www.aquariumfishwonders.com/.....-a-glass-bowl/
http://www.goldfish-care.com/goldfish_care.php
http://thegab.org/Goldfish/goldfish-basics.html
Like I suggested earlier, you can keep them in large plastic storage bins no problem. They're substantially cheaper than glass tanks and I personally think they look nice when planted.
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