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So this Friday, I'm taking in two AFT rescues. The lady who has them says they were surrendered to her at her work recently, and she's been trying to find them homes. We both agree that the previous owner had no idea what they were doing.
So the situations and what I can gather from pics:
1. Most of their toes are missing, and they appear to be covered in stuck shed. I told the lady how to get it off gently, but I'll see friday.
2. They're currently living on sand. I'm changing to peat moss once I get them.
3. I believe they're currently both being housed in a 10gal together and have only 1 hide. I have a 20L gal that I'll be putting the pair in, including more hides.
4. One of the two is abnormally large in the belly. I suspect she's pregnant, impacted, or obese, though I fear impaction. I was told pregnant females don't typically get that big, and I can't tell if she's overweight in other areas (I have no pics of her back). The lady says she's been eating well and pooping fine, so I am unsure. The larger one is 12, the smaller is 7. I don't know if that's a factor.
5. I'm /pretty/ sure they're both female, but I'm second guessing myself since I can see slight pores on the larger one. Are they for sure both females? If not, I have another home lined up that can take one or both if things don't work out. I am not looking to breed.
I own a leo, these will be my first fat tails. I know they need decently high humidity unlike a leo, but to my understanding, they're very similar in care. Any advice and tips are much appreciated. If I can't handle these girls, I have another good home I could give them to. I just want to get them out of where they are. The lady who has them now is trying her best, but she's unfamiliar with reptiles.
So the situations and what I can gather from pics:
1. Most of their toes are missing, and they appear to be covered in stuck shed. I told the lady how to get it off gently, but I'll see friday.
2. They're currently living on sand. I'm changing to peat moss once I get them.
3. I believe they're currently both being housed in a 10gal together and have only 1 hide. I have a 20L gal that I'll be putting the pair in, including more hides.
4. One of the two is abnormally large in the belly. I suspect she's pregnant, impacted, or obese, though I fear impaction. I was told pregnant females don't typically get that big, and I can't tell if she's overweight in other areas (I have no pics of her back). The lady says she's been eating well and pooping fine, so I am unsure. The larger one is 12, the smaller is 7. I don't know if that's a factor.
5. I'm /pretty/ sure they're both female, but I'm second guessing myself since I can see slight pores on the larger one. Are they for sure both females? If not, I have another home lined up that can take one or both if things don't work out. I am not looking to breed.
I own a leo, these will be my first fat tails. I know they need decently high humidity unlike a leo, but to my understanding, they're very similar in care. Any advice and tips are much appreciated. If I can't handle these girls, I have another good home I could give them to. I just want to get them out of where they are. The lady who has them now is trying her best, but she's unfamiliar with reptiles.
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1. soak them in warm water for the stuck shed, same as you would with your leo. also make sure they have a wet hide, and the humidity in their tank should help.
2 and 4. its probably impaction. it doesnt look like a preg belly, and obesity would affect more than the belly
3. 20gal is a good upgrade but separate them when you can. ATFs shouldnt be housed together
2 and 4. its probably impaction. it doesnt look like a preg belly, and obesity would affect more than the belly
3. 20gal is a good upgrade but separate them when you can. ATFs shouldnt be housed together
Oh, for sure. I told the lady to soak them and try to gently ease it off, but I'll be sure to do that if she hasn't. Soaking should also help if she's impacted.
Alrighty. I'll try yo have additional hides for each as well. But if they start fighting or anything, I'll give one to a new home. As far as I know, these two have been housed together for a while, but I don't know about how they interact with each other.
Thanks for the help!
Alrighty. I'll try yo have additional hides for each as well. But if they start fighting or anything, I'll give one to a new home. As far as I know, these two have been housed together for a while, but I don't know about how they interact with each other.
Thanks for the help!
I don't know a ton about geckos... so sorry... BUT the little I DO know:
Give them comfortably warm and humid baths regularly so their skin will start to peel without a ton of pain.
I would still suggest keeping SOME sand in there, since geckos, even in the wild, are desert creatures... but yeah, don't leave it ALL sand.
More hides are good... really good. They don't really like being seen and actually, Leopard Geckos aren't the friendliest little buggers unfortunately.
Unfortunately, I don't think the one is pregnant either. It looks like maybe a few blood vessels are messed up inside it judging by the odd color of it's skin showing through, but I'm no veterinarian, just a nerd on animals.
I hope maybe this helped a little :S
Give them comfortably warm and humid baths regularly so their skin will start to peel without a ton of pain.
I would still suggest keeping SOME sand in there, since geckos, even in the wild, are desert creatures... but yeah, don't leave it ALL sand.
More hides are good... really good. They don't really like being seen and actually, Leopard Geckos aren't the friendliest little buggers unfortunately.
Unfortunately, I don't think the one is pregnant either. It looks like maybe a few blood vessels are messed up inside it judging by the odd color of it's skin showing through, but I'm no veterinarian, just a nerd on animals.
I hope maybe this helped a little :S
Yepyep, I'll be sure to give these ladies some much needed soaks. My guess is that the previous owner didn't supply any moist hides or mistings, and they couldn't properly shed on their toes. I'll have to take a look at their eyes too once I get them.
I'd like to stay away from sand it at all possible. I know some people cut their substrate with sand, but geckos typically live in rocky areas on clay and dirt.
Oh yeah, that's for sure, haha. They mostly just like sleeping and being alone from my experience. I'm sure AFTs are like leos in that regard.
Yeah, I am worried it may be a tumor or something. I'll have to find a reptile vet nearby that can take a look.
Thanks for the help! ^^
I'd like to stay away from sand it at all possible. I know some people cut their substrate with sand, but geckos typically live in rocky areas on clay and dirt.
Oh yeah, that's for sure, haha. They mostly just like sleeping and being alone from my experience. I'm sure AFTs are like leos in that regard.
Yeah, I am worried it may be a tumor or something. I'll have to find a reptile vet nearby that can take a look.
Thanks for the help! ^^
I would recommend avoiding a full-on bath and instead find some old, clean rags and soak them in warm water and thoroughly drain. lay the geckos in a tub and just rest the rags ontop of them and put the lid on (obviously with holes.)
I use this method with my snake, and the wiggling and slithering she does to get out from underneath the towels, along with the humidity in the tub typically does the trick.
I use this method with my snake, and the wiggling and slithering she does to get out from underneath the towels, along with the humidity in the tub typically does the trick.
Both are ladies, and please take stumpy-tail to the vet!
Warm soaks or baths can loosen stuck shed no problem, but just bloating does not mean it's an impaction. I learned the hard way when I rescued a leo I thought was impacted, only to take her to the vet much later and find she had a tumor! Just looking doesn't give enough info, the vet will have to palpate her belly. (My qualifications are running a reptile rescue of my own for a few years. I saw a lot of things)
Thank you for taking in these lovely little velvet ladies!
Warm soaks or baths can loosen stuck shed no problem, but just bloating does not mean it's an impaction. I learned the hard way when I rescued a leo I thought was impacted, only to take her to the vet much later and find she had a tumor! Just looking doesn't give enough info, the vet will have to palpate her belly. (My qualifications are running a reptile rescue of my own for a few years. I saw a lot of things)
Thank you for taking in these lovely little velvet ladies!
Oh, for sure. I'll be calling around today looking for a nearby reptile vet. I'm worried it may be a tumor or growth due to the fact that the lady who has her currently says she's eating and passing food well, where I'd imagine impaction (especially at a stage where she's that large) would block food. I hope whatever it is is solved in time.
A family member of mine had an impacted gecko - I didn't notice her swelling that much, but she had lots of issues eating and pooping. Sand was the culprit. The place the gecko was purchased was shady, but unfortunately good at lying. They told said family member that these guys needed sand. We did a lot of research trying to save the little girl, and from what I found then, if she's on sand, there's a good chance she's impacted. Rescues honestly should be taken to the vet whether they look sick or not, especially reptiles. The vet will know best. Poor girls... glad you're willing to give them a suitable home.
Yeah, I've had pet stores try to peddle me sand. They even go as far as to say calcium sand doesn't cause impaction, but it does. Always gotta do research before deciding on a pet.
Oh, for sure. I want to make sure these ladies are are in ok condition, and hopefully they can tell me what's wrong with the stubby tail.
Oh, for sure. I want to make sure these ladies are are in ok condition, and hopefully they can tell me what's wrong with the stubby tail.
Poor babies! The missing toes are most likely from a bad shed or crickets nommin on their toes :/
I would actually recommend the petco reptile carpet over the moss; it's super cheap but it also is soft and retains heat from a heat mat very well. So it'll soothe them <3
I can also tell you that the other one for a fact is pregnant; impaction would have a more larger black spot on the upper side of belly. That current picture has two spots near the uterus, so I am assuming she will pop out two eggs. That large spot above the yellow spots is just her liver.
Aaaannnnddd, I am pretty sure they're both female.
An easier way to tell, as someone who owns gecks and worked at a reptile shop, keep them at a parallel angle and check if there is a bulge.
I know
Sounds silly but the male geckos have large bulges between their legs, the females have a slight to none.
But, I think they're both females.
I wish you the best of luck to them! :)
I would actually recommend the petco reptile carpet over the moss; it's super cheap but it also is soft and retains heat from a heat mat very well. So it'll soothe them <3
I can also tell you that the other one for a fact is pregnant; impaction would have a more larger black spot on the upper side of belly. That current picture has two spots near the uterus, so I am assuming she will pop out two eggs. That large spot above the yellow spots is just her liver.
Aaaannnnddd, I am pretty sure they're both female.
An easier way to tell, as someone who owns gecks and worked at a reptile shop, keep them at a parallel angle and check if there is a bulge.
I know
Sounds silly but the male geckos have large bulges between their legs, the females have a slight to none.
But, I think they're both females.
I wish you the best of luck to them! :)
Yeah, my guess is that they were never supplied a moist hide/mistings and couldn't properly shed. :c
I do like the reptile mats. My only concern is holding moisture, since AFTs need decently high humidity.
If she is pregnant, I hope she passes them alright. I'll still take her to the vet though, just to be sure. I'm hoping it's nothing deadly, but I'll certainly be supplying a nesting box.
Haha, not silly at all! I know that the males have the bulge from their hemipenis, but it's hard to tell if the stub tail one has a bulge or not from the picture. I know the slimmer one is for sure a female, pretty certain the stub tail is too since her pores are pretty faint. I'll make sure once I get them.
Thanks! ^o^
I do like the reptile mats. My only concern is holding moisture, since AFTs need decently high humidity.
If she is pregnant, I hope she passes them alright. I'll still take her to the vet though, just to be sure. I'm hoping it's nothing deadly, but I'll certainly be supplying a nesting box.
Haha, not silly at all! I know that the males have the bulge from their hemipenis, but it's hard to tell if the stub tail one has a bulge or not from the picture. I know the slimmer one is for sure a female, pretty certain the stub tail is too since her pores are pretty faint. I'll make sure once I get them.
Thanks! ^o^
I think its impact or compression from possibly eating too much substrate. Try luke warm baths, keep the tempurature constant not allowing it to cool down too much. Do that for about 20 mins. Hopefully she isnt lethargic. The bath should also help with shedding, if not there is a shed aid additive you can combine with the water. Make sure shes got a UVB Bulb too, that will help if she is acting lethargic at all and might help spike appetite if you feel it needs it, in any regard UVB is a good step. All you can do is make sure she has what she needs, maybe see if you can find a vet.
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