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Slot #1 (400 euro) | Partran
Slot #2 (400 euro) | Riptideshark
Slot #3 (400 euro) | GaslightDog
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Slot #1 (400 euro) | Partran
Slot #2 (400 euro) | Riptideshark
Slot #3 (400 euro) | GaslightDog
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Well, I've definitely seen it that high or higher from some of the amazing artists out there. I know Aimi, Ifus, Wolfy-Nails previous ones ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10548040/ ) go that high :D
Porn sells!
Porn sells!
-Art is not a forst needing, is a luxury product
-Wolfy nail is one of the most popular artists here
-Go ANYWHERE out the furry community and see for how much money a somewhat known non-furry artist sell their pieces
-Have in count that furry artists make whatever you want, they don't just make a picture and search for someone that wants to buy it.
-Wolfy nail is one of the most popular artists here
-Go ANYWHERE out the furry community and see for how much money a somewhat known non-furry artist sell their pieces
-Have in count that furry artists make whatever you want, they don't just make a picture and search for someone that wants to buy it.
Many artists do indeed charge 100+ and it is true that they deserve every penny they make but it is they charge so much that makes it REALLY hard on lesser known artists because most people assume you charge an arm and a leg or aren't willing to slap down 5 bucks. Just sayin'
As a single nation this is true though going back to the EU thing Europe would have america beat with China coming in third and still growing.Though this isnt very relevant since i was refuting your statement that the US dollar is the strongest currency in the world and not talking in terms of GDP.Heheh never thought id get to talk about economy on FA
It's not really fair for me to compare the two nations in the first place, really. America is so much larger than England and even all of Britain. I had actually forgotten that the GBP is still used for some odd reason. The dollar has been dropping pretty hard for a while, which I'm not surprised at. x3
What about the population ?
What about the size of the country ?
What about the numbers of regions ?
Seriously, USA are "United STATES of America".
You're speaking about things you don't know, sir. Each state in the US isn't as strong as some of the Europe's ones.
Moreover, it's clearly :
- a stupid debate
- not the right place for this
- proof of dangerous patriotism.
What about the size of the country ?
What about the numbers of regions ?
Seriously, USA are "United STATES of America".
You're speaking about things you don't know, sir. Each state in the US isn't as strong as some of the Europe's ones.
Moreover, it's clearly :
- a stupid debate
- not the right place for this
- proof of dangerous patriotism.
To be totally truthful I don't have much of an idea on how thst works. Ithe was late and I put economy rather than dollar and was too lazy to just remove the post and change it. There's a relation anyway and look, it actually sparked intelligent conversation so it worked out well!
20 minutes? Only if I'll vanish after receiving payments =D
Talking seriously, It's about 8 hours of solid time to work on each picture. Plus talking to commissioners, plus searching for references it's 7 days of work without gaming and watching series. I know it, because I always work with the timer.
But it does not mean i'm not as awesome as people imagine me!
Talking seriously, It's about 8 hours of solid time to work on each picture. Plus talking to commissioners, plus searching for references it's 7 days of work without gaming and watching series. I know it, because I always work with the timer.
But it does not mean i'm not as awesome as people imagine me!
400€ though is everything many people make through a whole month with 15hours of solid work per week ;)
But they aren't amazing artists. Indeed.
You get paid for the time you spend on a picture and the time you needed to get where you are now and develop your skills.
Practise time now!
Wait I'm at my 15 hour job ;)
But it's encouraging that it actually is possible to live off of art :)
I don't want to be rude - I'm just interested in if you have learned another professionor if you were just talented enough to become a freelancer?
But they aren't amazing artists. Indeed.
You get paid for the time you spend on a picture and the time you needed to get where you are now and develop your skills.
Practise time now!
Wait I'm at my 15 hour job ;)
But it's encouraging that it actually is possible to live off of art :)
I don't want to be rude - I'm just interested in if you have learned another professionor if you were just talented enough to become a freelancer?
What the....
Hast du schlehxt geschlafen? Ich hab nur gesagt dass ich gerade auf Arbeit bin was meinst du mache ich sonst damit ich jeden Tag auf mehreren Seiten was hochlade?
Du hast doch selber erst gesagt dir fehlt die Zeit zum Zeichnen also bitte erst mal an die eigene Nase fassen.
Hast du schlehxt geschlafen? Ich hab nur gesagt dass ich gerade auf Arbeit bin was meinst du mache ich sonst damit ich jeden Tag auf mehreren Seiten was hochlade?
Du hast doch selber erst gesagt dir fehlt die Zeit zum Zeichnen also bitte erst mal an die eigene Nase fassen.
I.actually don't know any regular job which is 400€ at a 40 hour week. And even if it takes time to search references, check back to commissioners and wait for response.etc I question wolfy to have a 40 hour work.week. by that I mean you're at home basically maybe having some cereal.while looking for refs etc etc it is a much more comfortable work climate.
I think the price is definately worth it - as definately not cheap but seeing the work and time.spent to become an artist of their level and the costs ecerytone has (bills, power, food, etc) it is justified imo.
I think the price is definately worth it - as definately not cheap but seeing the work and time.spent to become an artist of their level and the costs ecerytone has (bills, power, food, etc) it is justified imo.
400 euros a 40 hour work week boils down to about 10 euros an hour, which is 13.60USD an hour. That's what a lot of jobs pay (about 27K a year). Teachers, IT staff, some managers will make that much. And yes, the work is probably somewhat laid back, no boss, being able to stay at home, but in honesty, most jobs are like that - no one is working every minute, there's a lot of downtime and slow times.
depends about the job and the area I guess. A friend of mine is an engineer, his profession is radiation protection. He is doing a hell lot more then 400$ per week. And that wit hmore or less normal shedules. He gets out in the morning and is back in the evening. No other stress. of course getting to that position is the trick. Spending years on some academy/university. Though, I think as artist it is difficult to make a living today. This is if we compare the academic education here, like as lawyer, doctor or engineer. All of them will make a lot more money in their latter careers compared to an artist with a similar academic education, where you spend 3-4 years at some university or school.
Just as a side note, its very interesting to hear what professional illustrators and/or artists have to say on that matter, like Noah Bradley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaychQ6gTwY
https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/138c5efd45e9
Compared to "similar" professions, as artist you will have to get used to a much smaller loan. Unless you are one of those very famous designers/artists etc.
Just as a side note, its very interesting to hear what professional illustrators and/or artists have to say on that matter, like Noah Bradley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaychQ6gTwY
https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/138c5efd45e9
Compared to "similar" professions, as artist you will have to get used to a much smaller loan. Unless you are one of those very famous designers/artists etc.
I'm afraid you got me wrong.
I was talking about that I know any jobs that are 40/€ a month with 4 weeks of 40h work.
Which would be an hourly wage of 2,50 which I hope nobody needs to get out of their bed for (please don't destroy my dreams).
There hardly is a limit upwards of ridiculous income of sport people or managers.
I know what common/recommended prices for.illustrating look like (have smdone some.research too my friend) but thank you for posting the link - there never is enoughto know about this topic being an aspiring / improving artist.
I know my education is good enough to become a doctor or something I could become a dentist or lawyer and have a nice income
But that wouldn't make me happy..
Yes there are times like.everyone knows I flail my arms.asking why I am.even trying lol
But I'd hope to make a living off of art - have a flat, enough to eat, New stuff every now and then maybe a part time job and art. Yes.
I guess I'd need to make ~1000-1500€ a month to live how I'd like to. I could survive with ~700-800 (which is not wasting money but lower end of income in Germany to not get welfare help).
I think it could be possible but it will be a long way and a hell lot more of practise.
... I guess I lost the topic at.some.point sorry xD
I was talking about that I know any jobs that are 40/€ a month with 4 weeks of 40h work.
Which would be an hourly wage of 2,50 which I hope nobody needs to get out of their bed for (please don't destroy my dreams).
There hardly is a limit upwards of ridiculous income of sport people or managers.
I know what common/recommended prices for.illustrating look like (have smdone some.research too my friend) but thank you for posting the link - there never is enoughto know about this topic being an aspiring / improving artist.
I know my education is good enough to become a doctor or something I could become a dentist or lawyer and have a nice income
But that wouldn't make me happy..
Yes there are times like.everyone knows I flail my arms.asking why I am.even trying lol
But I'd hope to make a living off of art - have a flat, enough to eat, New stuff every now and then maybe a part time job and art. Yes.
I guess I'd need to make ~1000-1500€ a month to live how I'd like to. I could survive with ~700-800 (which is not wasting money but lower end of income in Germany to not get welfare help).
I think it could be possible but it will be a long way and a hell lot more of practise.
... I guess I lost the topic at.some.point sorry xD
no problem. Happens. :)
I was just saying that depending on your region, what you earn as artist/freelancer (like on Furraffinity) can be either a lot, or not very much, or simply normal. It seems that for most people the US/European wages are the standart, which I guess is understandable, since buying digital art is something that I see as a luxury. Even if computers and the use of the internet become more avaible as time goes on, a lot of people still struggle with their incomes.
I was just saying that depending on your region, what you earn as artist/freelancer (like on Furraffinity) can be either a lot, or not very much, or simply normal. It seems that for most people the US/European wages are the standart, which I guess is understandable, since buying digital art is something that I see as a luxury. Even if computers and the use of the internet become more avaible as time goes on, a lot of people still struggle with their incomes.
I'm not an artist, but it is entirely possible - you just have to learn how to manage your time efficiently. Once you learn to do that and learn to cut out extraneous things you do that take up your time, you can accomplish a lot of things. It is difficult to do, but even after coming home from work from an eight-hour shift, you have another eight or so hours to do things - not just eat, watch TV, and goof off, but you can work on your hobbies, work on another profession, do whatever you want with that time. It takes motivation, but if you can harness, you can accomplish many things at once.
I do I do :D
Like everyone else I have lazy days watching GoT or gaming but everyone takes a break sometimes.
I usually do exaactly this - coming home after being away (at work) from 8am to 7pm (leaving and returning home), refresh myself (clean my face from makeup, have something to eat, get comfy clothes) do whatever needs to be done (cleaning dishes, washmashine, iron clothes etc) and draw. I usually spend 3-5 hours a day drawing / caring for my online presence (replying to comments? ;) ) etc since I noticed it is important to improve art as well as getting known to people by leaving comments and such.
But I see I improved very much during the last year! :)
So it definately works - I agree! <3
Like everyone else I have lazy days watching GoT or gaming but everyone takes a break sometimes.
I usually do exaactly this - coming home after being away (at work) from 8am to 7pm (leaving and returning home), refresh myself (clean my face from makeup, have something to eat, get comfy clothes) do whatever needs to be done (cleaning dishes, washmashine, iron clothes etc) and draw. I usually spend 3-5 hours a day drawing / caring for my online presence (replying to comments? ;) ) etc since I noticed it is important to improve art as well as getting known to people by leaving comments and such.
But I see I improved very much during the last year! :)
So it definately works - I agree! <3
Yeah people have a pretty unreasonable view of the whole thing. Their perspectives are relative, though: art is, for the most part, an extremely cheap commodity in the furry fandom. It's kinda crazy. In that respect, yeah...you charge oodles (compared to most other furry artists). Granted, your work is more popular and more professional than most furry artists. In media--art included--popularity is everything. ;o
I think what you're paying for is style and professionality. Someone who did already 10 000 pictures for people is more likely to deliver EXACTLY what you want compared to someone who is unknown. See it like the start of a career. 2 people doing the same job. But one is doing it already for 25 years, the other one just started yesterday. Again, they pretty much do the same thing. But most would agree that its alright that someone doing it for 25 years managed to get more money for his hours. I mean you have to work your way up the ladder. Of course, you still have to be always realistic with your expactations. I would never pay like 5 000 $ for a singe picture here when you can get it for 250 $ in comparable quality of course. Doesnt matter who the artist is. That is why I believe that "pure" art as buisness is very ... questionable, I mean we dont really have to argue about the difference in a Volkswagen and a Racing Car for example. But what about 2 painted pictures? There is so much that comes in to play here ...
I believe its best to see the artwork that is done here as a product. A creative product, yes, but nontheless, a product. Just as if you would ask someone to do photographs for your wedding, or design you a website for your company.
I believe its best to see the artwork that is done here as a product. A creative product, yes, but nontheless, a product. Just as if you would ask someone to do photographs for your wedding, or design you a website for your company.
I have the money. No intention to boast, because this money is saved for an Erasmus exchange, but I could technically buy the whole slot four times. Though, I would never, never ever spend 400 Euros for an anthro picture. For a signed print of Picasso, maybe, but for a digital furry picture? Jesus CHRIST! I dont understand this century....
see, I would not even give a penny for a picture from Picasso.
But there are certain arbooks out there, like from Noah Bradley or for certain movies about concept art that I would die for to get my hands on - though I would probably still not spend 400$ on it.
People have different values I guess.
But there are certain arbooks out there, like from Noah Bradley or for certain movies about concept art that I would die for to get my hands on - though I would probably still not spend 400$ on it.
People have different values I guess.
You do realize that just cause hes making money at this ime he will be working on these commissions for the next few weeks whih overall is one or two paychecks crammed into one.
Also seeing as its a discount he must have a bill due which means all this money is probably going straight into someone elses wallet...
Also seeing as its a discount he must have a bill due which means all this money is probably going straight into someone elses wallet...
I watched Pac and Redsilver...
Granted it might take two to three hours if it is highly detailed. I just wanted to explain that this will not be hand drawn, hand sketched and handcoloured pictures, but digital work which is so incredibly easy to correct and to colour. It would take one to two days to draw and colour such art by hand.
That is all I wanted to say with this statement.
Granted it might take two to three hours if it is highly detailed. I just wanted to explain that this will not be hand drawn, hand sketched and handcoloured pictures, but digital work which is so incredibly easy to correct and to colour. It would take one to two days to draw and colour such art by hand.
That is all I wanted to say with this statement.
For the record.
Each person creates work at their own pace.
Not everyone is going to draw and finish a picture within an hour or two.
Sometimes it does take people insane amounts of time even if it is just a digital piece.
No two artists are the same. It takes time and effort which could of been spent on doing other things.
Sorry, not all artists can pump art out their ass in no time flat.
If it even takes him 7 days to finish one picture I'm astounded
That's quick work for the level of detail that he creates and with the level of focus and precision that is in each work.
I hope you do not expect that short time frame with every single artist.
Cause that sir, is an absolute load of shit.
Each person creates work at their own pace.
Not everyone is going to draw and finish a picture within an hour or two.
Sometimes it does take people insane amounts of time even if it is just a digital piece.
No two artists are the same. It takes time and effort which could of been spent on doing other things.
Sorry, not all artists can pump art out their ass in no time flat.
If it even takes him 7 days to finish one picture I'm astounded
That's quick work for the level of detail that he creates and with the level of focus and precision that is in each work.
I hope you do not expect that short time frame with every single artist.
Cause that sir, is an absolute load of shit.
And once again, the original intention I had is gone by constant comment discussion...
I NEVER criticed Wolfynail, he is badass, and I never said I expect him to crank this out in a day. Too, I do not want to flatten digital work. It has huge advantages, wish I had a tabloid.
I just said that drawing digital is faster and easier to correct and colour, then hand art. Wolfynail is a pro, this will be rather quick job, as far as I am honored to follow his gallery.
No further answers to that topic. Don't want to spam this site with endless discussions with people I don't even know, sorry. No gusto for drama.
I NEVER criticed Wolfynail, he is badass, and I never said I expect him to crank this out in a day. Too, I do not want to flatten digital work. It has huge advantages, wish I had a tabloid.
I just said that drawing digital is faster and easier to correct and colour, then hand art. Wolfynail is a pro, this will be rather quick job, as far as I am honored to follow his gallery.
No further answers to that topic. Don't want to spam this site with endless discussions with people I don't even know, sorry. No gusto for drama.
Wolfytails is not THAT detailed, pelase let's stay all cool now. THIS is highly detailed: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13768592/
I do not know why everyone is forcing me into a position i do not want and desire to stand for.
I do not know why everyone is forcing me into a position i do not want and desire to stand for.
I'm not trying to attack you or anything just saying.
That's more of a painting type piece, highly detailed can mean a number of different things to a number of different people, so labeling one piece of art from a different artist with a different skill level as detailed is a little unfair
I'm not personally trying to force you to do anything I was just stating my opinion as you did above
I'm not trying to fight just undertand
That's more of a painting type piece, highly detailed can mean a number of different things to a number of different people, so labeling one piece of art from a different artist with a different skill level as detailed is a little unfair
I'm not personally trying to force you to do anything I was just stating my opinion as you did above
I'm not trying to fight just undertand
That is okay then, sorry... *hugs*
People constantly attack me for my not-understanding... See, I ordered two comissions right now, by artists I really like, so this is not something I generally disapprove by any means. And I draw myself, I know that good work desires good payment.
It is just so amazing that people spend 400 Euros so easily for furry art. Maybe I am not that deep into the furdom - though, I would never pay such a sumn for an Apple product or any other item which has not an eternal worth to resell. Maybe this is my personal eduacation to blame. I don't know.
People constantly attack me for my not-understanding... See, I ordered two comissions right now, by artists I really like, so this is not something I generally disapprove by any means. And I draw myself, I know that good work desires good payment.
It is just so amazing that people spend 400 Euros so easily for furry art. Maybe I am not that deep into the furdom - though, I would never pay such a sumn for an Apple product or any other item which has not an eternal worth to resell. Maybe this is my personal eduacation to blame. I don't know.
This is a viewpooint from the opposite angle, but alright: I would naturally take the money and work my ass off to please my customer. Though I would be totally shattered someone spend so much money and send the picture for free with a letter of thanks, and I would not demand such a sumn at all, in the first place.
Again, this is not an attack on Wolfynail. If I may reuse my Picasso example, he himself was said to be constantly shaking his head and hoaxing among his friends that the shittier he draws, the more people want his art, and he could not understand how people throw his money at even a signed napkin of his. Though, the artist is not to blame or to critic at all, it is the market respectively the fandom.
Still I had no problems with this - problem is not the right word, let's say something issues me -, hence there would not be constantly shouts for help on FA because of financial desasters. And being European, I know most countries here are temporarily fucked up. USA not doing so good, too. So, spending 400 Euros in a second for a digital piece of art used in the first place to fap to ("cuntboys") appeared to be most extravagant.
That is all ever wanted to say, and I will not repeat further to this topic, as I have no intention and no gusto whatsoever for drama. I wish Wolfynails all the best and succsess and I LOVE his art and style like cracz!
Again, this is not an attack on Wolfynail. If I may reuse my Picasso example, he himself was said to be constantly shaking his head and hoaxing among his friends that the shittier he draws, the more people want his art, and he could not understand how people throw his money at even a signed napkin of his. Though, the artist is not to blame or to critic at all, it is the market respectively the fandom.
Still I had no problems with this - problem is not the right word, let's say something issues me -, hence there would not be constantly shouts for help on FA because of financial desasters. And being European, I know most countries here are temporarily fucked up. USA not doing so good, too. So, spending 400 Euros in a second for a digital piece of art used in the first place to fap to ("cuntboys") appeared to be most extravagant.
That is all ever wanted to say, and I will not repeat further to this topic, as I have no intention and no gusto whatsoever for drama. I wish Wolfynails all the best and succsess and I LOVE his art and style like cracz!
Most comments are not butthurt. Many are, like me, just totally surprised that people are willing to pay most of their monthly paycheck for a digital furry picture.
I know this sounds rude. Believe me, Wolfynail is one of the very best artists I have ever seen. The money is just an aquivalent to his great skills.
Though, this is not something I could hang on my wall. It is not even oil on canvas or so, it is a digital painting. One crash, and it is gone. I am simply totally smashed how easy people spend money on non-material art. 0.0
I know this sounds rude. Believe me, Wolfynail is one of the very best artists I have ever seen. The money is just an aquivalent to his great skills.
Though, this is not something I could hang on my wall. It is not even oil on canvas or so, it is a digital painting. One crash, and it is gone. I am simply totally smashed how easy people spend money on non-material art. 0.0
you can print it on canvas for another 50€ and a traditional painting aka oil, acrylics would be way more expensive than 400€!
Sorry but just because something is digital does not mean the artist needs to starve!
Or that there's no effort, work and sweat.
It takes work, skill, knowledge and time!
Ever thought about the additional costs a freelancer has?
The amount of practice they need to get where wolfy is now? and you never stop learning and practising!
And on top: 8 hours per 3character illustration in this style is a very good rate!
Art, Illustration, Design is hard work! be it digital or traditional!
Sorry but just because something is digital does not mean the artist needs to starve!
Or that there's no effort, work and sweat.
It takes work, skill, knowledge and time!
Ever thought about the additional costs a freelancer has?
The amount of practice they need to get where wolfy is now? and you never stop learning and practising!
And on top: 8 hours per 3character illustration in this style is a very good rate!
Art, Illustration, Design is hard work! be it digital or traditional!
I see you have always such sophisticated answers to comments which try to conceive the incredible paradox of FA members constantly whining about not having a real job and on the other hand spending hundreds of dollars for a digital image..
Again, NONE of us attacked or criticed Wolfynail. He is a goddamn WONDERFUL artists and I, personally, LOVE his work. If he can make good money with his work, then for sure he should do it! I would, too. That is not the point of my or Kaltastrophe's comments.
Pray, don't answer us with this "LOl go home" or deminuitive comments like you did to Kaltastorphe, this is not leading anywhere.
Again, NONE of us attacked or criticed Wolfynail. He is a goddamn WONDERFUL artists and I, personally, LOVE his work. If he can make good money with his work, then for sure he should do it! I would, too. That is not the point of my or Kaltastrophe's comments.
Pray, don't answer us with this "LOl go home" or deminuitive comments like you did to Kaltastorphe, this is not leading anywhere.
"Every kink you can already find in my gallery, including gay and herms"
I think it's important to point out that "gay" is not a "kink" and to consider it as such implies a certain otherness or deviation from the norm, thus reinforcing the idea that homosexuality is unnatural or something like a fetish, even though it definitely is not.
I think it's important to point out that "gay" is not a "kink" and to consider it as such implies a certain otherness or deviation from the norm, thus reinforcing the idea that homosexuality is unnatural or something like a fetish, even though it definitely is not.
Wow...now you are really looking for something to pick on.
He usually doesn't draw gay-pictures. (And it's his right to NOT draw something, he doesn't need to please everybody, does he?). But on this special offering, he was willing to draw gay szenes too, even if that's not normal for him. But because he doesn't draw it that often, you will not find it in his gallery. Obviously, he had to mention it seperatly.
If you try to nitpicking on the wording I have to remind you that english is still hard for him. And it's unfair to judge somebody by his inability to write OVERSENSITVE sentences because he can't speak that language like a native.
We have many gay friends and we are proud to know each and every single one of them.
So please go spread your hate someplace else.
He usually doesn't draw gay-pictures. (And it's his right to NOT draw something, he doesn't need to please everybody, does he?). But on this special offering, he was willing to draw gay szenes too, even if that's not normal for him. But because he doesn't draw it that often, you will not find it in his gallery. Obviously, he had to mention it seperatly.
If you try to nitpicking on the wording I have to remind you that english is still hard for him. And it's unfair to judge somebody by his inability to write OVERSENSITVE sentences because he can't speak that language like a native.
We have many gay friends and we are proud to know each and every single one of them.
So please go spread your hate someplace else.
you will not find it in his gallery.
Ummmm. >..>
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13628487/ NSFW
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12651118/ NSFW
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5366862/ NSFW
Wish "In Your Best Interest" was on here, haha. Love that comic, even if there wasn't a part two. X3
But yeah, I agree that Wolfy most likely meant "gay" as a "kink" in the same way "straight" is referred to as a "kink" in erotica and porn.
An example would be people who like gay furry art, but are straight in real life, or how someone whose gay in real life might like straight furry art. Or how "lesbian" is referred to as a "kink" when there's girl on girl action. :3
Ummmm. >..>
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13628487/ NSFW
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12651118/ NSFW
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5366862/ NSFW
Wish "In Your Best Interest" was on here, haha. Love that comic, even if there wasn't a part two. X3
But yeah, I agree that Wolfy most likely meant "gay" as a "kink" in the same way "straight" is referred to as a "kink" in erotica and porn.
An example would be people who like gay furry art, but are straight in real life, or how someone whose gay in real life might like straight furry art. Or how "lesbian" is referred to as a "kink" when there's girl on girl action. :3
people dont realise he's actually putting his ass on the line to draw their porn because of how different it is in Russia. some places you could still wind up shot for it.
so announcing it like what we've fought so hard for 'here in the us' and a few other countries means its everywhere, it's not.
We already know wolfy has NOTHING against sexuality personally, people don't need to PICK on his choice of wording, its fucking stupid.
so announcing it like what we've fought so hard for 'here in the us' and a few other countries means its everywhere, it's not.
We already know wolfy has NOTHING against sexuality personally, people don't need to PICK on his choice of wording, its fucking stupid.
Nothing like an artist asking for a decent price to piss off the cheapskates. Its understandable if you dont have the cash, people, but no one wants to hear your fucking whining.
To wolfy-nail, good luck. You deserve every penny, and just ignore the negativity from some of the commenters.
To wolfy-nail, good luck. You deserve every penny, and just ignore the negativity from some of the commenters.
Because it's sooooo messed up for artists to charge large sums of money, that they practically live on! Think about it, it's about 1500 USD which is about a monthly living wage for some people. He doesn't take commissions often, an will be working on this about most of the month. Sounds about right. It's a job.
Just because someone makes money faster than you or I does doesn't dictate how or where they should spend their money.
Just because someone makes money faster than you or I does doesn't dictate how or where they should spend their money.
now this is an artist that knows how to sell like a real industry artist. We're getting closer.... Now if only we could get people to understand this is still fucking cheap for high quality art in the 'real' industry and people are actually getting a huge discount for everything they buy on FA. ._.
oh but you know, this isn't 'real industry'.... Artist is still an artist who's majoring in this professions, so why shouldn't we get paid artist wages?
Artists used to get paid thousands for one piece selling to industry buyers, this is nothing. People need to quit complaining.
oh but you know, this isn't 'real industry'.... Artist is still an artist who's majoring in this professions, so why shouldn't we get paid artist wages?
Artists used to get paid thousands for one piece selling to industry buyers, this is nothing. People need to quit complaining.
oh and before i hear 'industry doesn't buy porn art'
http://lcart1.narod.ru/image/fantas....._communion.jpg
Luis Royo Is one of my most favorite artists, he does VERY adult things, that's very..... interesting..... he has a fucking GALLERY in pairs, I don't wanna hear it.
http://lcart1.narod.ru/image/fantas....._communion.jpg
Luis Royo Is one of my most favorite artists, he does VERY adult things, that's very..... interesting..... he has a fucking GALLERY in pairs, I don't wanna hear it.
it's never going to be the norm there's always going to be some artists that just sell for rediculously cheap, hell i'm really cheap. most of us can't even get by trying to charge some one reasonable prices for even a low end industry artists. but well we work and work to pay the bills and people pay very little in comparison, not even realizing 'most' of what they are getting is on a huge discount to scale. I'm just getting tired of the rage when one artist actually manages to start making proper wages from art.
I know Wolfy is incredibly talented, but 500 euro (524 USD) is a big chuck of change for a drawing. That's a brand new Glock pistol for me, or my internet paid in full for 5 months; or at a minimum, a new PS4...
That being said, whoever paid for the slots has far more disposable income than I do. Enjoy.
That being said, whoever paid for the slots has far more disposable income than I do. Enjoy.
Glock 22s don't really do it for me...
I picked this one up not too long ago. It was a PD Trade-In.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a.....psyvihmqrf.jpg
I picked this one up not too long ago. It was a PD Trade-In.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a.....psyvihmqrf.jpg
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