NO GEM! DUN TAKE DEM!!! D:

Don't take the pill, Gemma!

Don't take them…

Personally i say Gem should take em. Not only are they professionally perscribed, but, it is only a break she needs, vivid dreams are very draining on the mind and body. On top of that, i think she should go get her blood pressure tested by a doctor.

But thats just what i would do in her shoes. :3

Good to see more work by you sweetie! Fa being down really sucked :p

I would take them as well, it's one week, and during that time that she isn't having the dreams she can do a little snooping on her past, uninterrupted.

meh, do what the doc says. though tbh, i'd rather see zeezee and rasile. though wouldn't surpressing REM sleep make you MORE exhausted?

as a side note, look on the bright side gemma, you've got more time to think about your new boyfriend. go get em' tigress!

REM sleep which is the sleep where you dream, is actually not the bit where you get the most rested. Therefore suppressing it would make you less tired, because suppressing your dreams would allow to reach the actual deep sleep where you get most tested. *insert the more you know rainbow here*

Rested* bah iPhone -_-;

ah. i did not know the info in THAT much detail. so now i know. thank you for correcting me.

Yup, this is completely correct ... this is the reason why narcoleptics (who go into the REM state too easily -- sometimes even when awake) are tired, because they don't get enough deep sleep at night.

unfortunately i have a sleep disorder, while not narcoleptic, i just seem to get alot more REM sleep and less deep sleep lately and am constantly tired. on the bright side i've developed a deeper understanding of my knowledge on the subject. But i totally sadly identify with Gem on this page atm. :c

:( *hugs*

Theripist suck. You need a scientist.

Scientist is good idea.

Eyup one that understands her problem would be best.

I think Mad Science is called for here. I hear Dr. Squeaky has invented a lightning-powered diaper-changing apparatus. Perfectly safe. Well, the apparatus is. Not the lightning. There are still a few bugs to work out. :)

I think more senible science. Dr. Haseo has been working on the regrestion cure. No success. So along with neuro science. Hey he is 16 with a cubs bladder.

Sometimes docs dun know the right answer.

this seems to be taking a dark turn o-o I like it ^^

Lol like it hadn't already, several pages back xD

Well, I mean an even darker turn :p

one half me say you should take his advice and take the pill and forget about these dreams, and the other half say you find out what they all mean if these a really dreams or if there repressed memories

A lot of people who are saying that Gem shouldn't take the pills are missing what the therapist said completely. The dreams that Gem is having are dangerously vivid, and coming from someone who regularly experiences very strong, vivid dreams (though not to this extent) having that go on combined with the stresses faced in real life, it can be extremely draining and tiring on the mind, and there have been times where I just didn't want to sleep because I was tired of having so many vivid dreams, sometimes 5-7 a night and I could remember details from all of them because they were that strong. Yes it is good to see her family, but presently they are nothing more than dreams. Plus given the situation it would do Gem some good to take a break from things, it may even give her an opportunity to reflect on things and sort out what she should do in the long run regarding them.

That being said I think this is a very important page and a very good one. It's one of those times where the story could go either way. ^^

Uhhhh Prazosin doesn't surpress REM sleep, in fact one of it's main side effects is Oneirophrenia, a hallucinatory, dream-like state.

AND ALSO Dr Kitsune is a psychologist rather then a psychiatrist and wouldn't be allowed to make prescriptions for people?

Desmethoxyyangonin or another Kava extract would be the drug she needs for dreamless sleep but that would be really crazy prescribing her that as it would have an addictive nature beyond her existing problem.

TL;DR: Dr Kitsune is pretty terrible doctor, do not trust his medical advice, it will end up with you wearing diapers!!

That's interesting cause the research I did online suggested that drug did exactly that.
Also I think I may have mixed my terminology up then as Dr Justine is part of a complex similar to cornhill in Aberdeen so I always assumed he had prescription abilities. So I probably meant psychiatrist rather than psychologist from the start. I guess I'm gonna have to go thru some pages and do some editting as that's quite an important distinction to make and something that's going to be important in future pages

Stupid autocorrect on my dumbass phone kitsune not Kirsten... Wait now it's turning Justine into Kristine? Wait?!?! Phone.... Go home, you're drunk

In cases of PTSD, Prazosin has a stabilising effect on dreams, removing some of the elements that would cause the PTS part, but doesn't actually stop dreams.

I think i'm assuming he's a psychologist as Psychiatrists "usually" act very differently ^^

Maybe I should just change the name of the drug to something fictitious

Madeupitral
Fictionsil

psychologists are the ones who do prescriptions psychiatrists do therapy. (i know because i see the former every 3 months for my disability)

In the US, Psychiatrists have the ability to prescribe drugs, because they have to go to medical school in addition to psychology classes. Psychologists do more testing and analytics, I have a master's degree in Psychology - I cannot prescribe drugs.

your right sorry. i was confused and tired i usually flip things around when I'm tired

Nothing is adictive! It's up to your mind to tell you. Your actually in control, you mind, your body. No strong medication is able to cause an adiction. Come one I used to take Oxycodone (controlled sub level 2) for about 3 months and was able to leave it suddenly (about 2 months ago.) It's all in the mind! You cannot get addictied unless you want to. It's a choice you make not what the drug makes.

hmm quite a hard choich kinda

Geez, Lots of people not trusting a doctor over self delusion and dreams. It's like they WANT Gemma to go nuts and kill everyone :P

I....I wasn't plotting...or anything... *smiles*

hard decission, nut... sometimes its better to learn from those dreams whats behind them

Which is why this is supposed to be only for a VERY limited time. :)

Take the blue pill!!

Or was it the red one!?

Gah! I'm so confused now too!

*Hugs*

Enjoying your tale as always Gem.

Happy Holidays!

Swifty

I believe that would be the blue pill. "If you take the blue pill, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. If you take the red pill, I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." (paraphrasing, but I think I got it right.)

if you take the blue pill you wake up in your bed and beleve... whatever you want to beleve, if you take the red pill you stay in wonderland and i show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Rapid eye movement sleep

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_.....movement_sleep

I don't think Prazosin is an ideal medicine, it has too many side effects. Herbal tea is anything should help. And exactly what would Gem do for a week? Stay at home all by herself with no one to socialise. I get the feeling Dr. Kitsune is not doing Gem any favours, he's got to think of another way.

Prazosin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prazosin

*whispers* psst. Sis… It's "suppressing" not "surpressing" o:

Ever since I discovered your art page, Gem, I have enjoyed the cute element your art has to it. But I have found that "Found" has been the most profound part of your gallery. At first I was skeptical, because it seemed like a simple story. However, I have discovered that the complexity, drama, and relate able likeness towards the characters has truly made this one of my favorite comics to read and look forward to every time a new page comes out.

Medication was always scary to me.. I remember when I was little and my doctor gave me depression medicine, and I never took it. I was constantly a wreck internally but outside I was fine.

I say, take the week of, and spend it with Zeezee et al! I'm sure they'll give you plenty of naps to get the rest you need! :D

(by the way, you misspelled "bloke")

aww! i hope she doesn't take them! :(

Will she take the pills?

Will she never see Zeezee & Rasile & her mom again?

See next comic page to find out!

I suggest she take the pills and the week off. It is quite clear that she is on the verge of a mental breakdown and needs the rest. If she HAS to be busy in that time she could work on her home computer and do some research on vivid dreams and meanings behind dream imagery to help her come to terms. Maybe do a search for certain names online to try and FIND Zeezee and Rasile she might get lucky and be able to contact them. I am sure they would want to see their baby sister again...if they are still with us.

Hah, the pills won't stop Gem going to Sleepy Bubbles! It's not a dream! *giggle*

You might be right, especially if its a travel to a parallel universe and not a mere dream.

that would be one hell of a twist

Poor Gemma! She deserves to feel loved so much. I really hope she gets to have a happy ending!


--Also,

Rasile:(to Gemma) You take the blue pill and our story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. Take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland...and I show you how deep the squirrel nest goes.

Gemma: Woah.

Pills don't solve issues at their core. They can help with the effects at times but that's it. Everyone has to face their own demons but not before they are ready.

Well I'm usually one to say follow the professional but I'd question the Doc's advice here. Granted so long as the pill doesn't mess with other parts of the sleep cycle it should be fine but well this guy has don nothing to assuage her fears and indeed seems to have made them worse. I mean seriously this guy should have talked with her at length about things and tried to make sure that his patient is leaving in an emotionally stable state. Not provoking an outburst.

Besides that I'm also going to agree with SleepyCub here. The pill here isn't solving the issue. Does he really think this will help? Even if she does take it how likely is it that she still won't be constantly thinking of these dreams given she has little else to occupy her time with.

Oh and refresh my memory Gem. Hasn't She been keeping a dream diary for the Doctor? You'd think if she had he'd have more to say on the content of the dreams and possible meaning. In short this guy doesn't seem like the best at his profession.

But of course I know this is all working towards a larger plot that'll turn out cool as ice so I look forward to reading more. ^^

Can Gem get a second opinion from other Doctor?

I'm still trying to figure out why that scenr messed her up so bad.
That was gem her mum was pregnant with :/

Who says the prescription bottle has to say anything legible? It can just have a bunch of random tiny scribbles that are too small to read. :) Or you can type a message saying, "Congratulations! You have spotted a hidden message in Found. Good for you! You win 1 Gem hug!", put it in a very small font, and insert it into the label. :)

Whoa, doc looks kinda evil in this one O_o I wonder what's going to happen next.

I love that glare he's giving her.

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I um... I feel a lot less appreciated as a character, all of a sudden.

*hugs* truthfully I think you have gems best interests at heart, so thankyoo for looking out for her, despite what other people are saying on this page, I wasnt expecting this page to divide people so much although it is an important one.

I think Dr Kitsune, who is not  ChocolateKitsune but just a role he's playing in this drama, is seeing Gemma becoming consumed by the delusion that her dream world is real, to the point where it's affecting her life, which is really real. Now, he hasn't experienced what she has, of course, but he's got a lot more therapy experience, and I'm sure he's seen that kind of thing happen before, and it hasn't been good for the patients. Of course, what's really happening to Gemma might be something entirely different, but from Dr Kitsune's point of view she needs to stop focusing on the things that are upsetting her and her life. It's totally understandable. *nodnods*

Personally, my main concern is that this treatment sounds dangerously experimental, and I'm worried that something could go horribly wrong. Especially when Wikipedia mentions "dreaming while awake" and "hallucinations of wakefulness while falling asleep" among Prazosin's possible side effects.

Everything has possible side effects. if it occurs in even 1 of 1000 test subjects (less than 1%) they have to note and warn people of it.

not true. just a few months ago I had gotten a flu shot and started to feel so sick I couldn't work for a few days and I found out what got me sick were a few side effects that were not listed but were present in test subjects of the shot

basically I wasn't warned of any of the side effects I experienced

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Are you ready to see how deep the squirrel hole goes?

looks demonic. ditch the pils .. w@@rrrrrr

Take the pills! That way, when the dreams continue, you'll know they're more than just dreams!

...and if you take them and somehow the dreams do stop, then maybe the doctor is right, and you should take it easy for a little, just in case. :(

With every page, i fall in love with this comic more and more

Sometimes taking a rest helps to clarify things. Being exhausted and having an emotional crush isn't a good combination. I've to agree with Dr Kitsune.
Maybe Gem is pretty close to reach the core of all of her inner conflict... but that shouldn't be at the cost of her health, her normal routine and other aspects that a patient taking therapy must take care of.

Gotta agree with some comments above, too: psychiatrists are the ones licenced to prescribe drugs AND also give therapy (in a different approach than psychologists, as far as i know)

Take the pills, Gem

Gem don't worry you'll see Rasile and Zeezee soon they don't see you mainly because you're a figment of their minds. Remember it is a dream after all.

His watch in his pocket turned brown never trust a brown watch!

Yup.

OOC

That's it see normal non paying Psychiatrist
No
Service available to you

Fin stay with the paying one

I wonder if she ignored his advice what the consequences would be. Sometimes you really do need a break, even from good things.

GEM NUUUUUUUUUUUUU *Sqauks in penguin noises*

I say take the week off, solve this mystery, and don't take the pills.