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My perspective on the words digestion and absorption.
5 years ago
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And so does the dragon speaks, his words are very long and noodly, careful when venturing this journal!
This is very sensitive topic actually, I talked with almost a dozen of furries before I had to come to a perspective of my own. So hopefully it won't create a lot of discussion on my DMs or even here on FA, instead we have talks where it raises good point about it and if really is something with very strong points I am always open to change my view partialy.
Am I overthinking? Of course I am, gotta thank pandemic for making me free time to think about those things. Am I wasting my time writing this? Possibly, is just something I would enjoy to share to those that in the same situation as me after talking with some people, since I am busy with and study and not all the time to play games or RP, I decided to try a journal on FA.
A second main reason I would be writing this journal is to avoid misunderstanding whenever I would put the digestion tag on my non-fatal vore art. Because it will happen, as it happened to some furries that posted their art and had this bad situation every time they posted with a misunderstanding.
So digestion and absorption, in the beginning, back in 2011 I seen digestion as something fatal, while I seen absorption as something only "goo" creatures could be doing them, since you know, their whole body is their alimentary system. Digestion definition always was: "Breaking down food by mechanical and enzymatic action in the alimentary canal into substances that can be used by the body." And since we are a bunch of voraphiles most community keep their definition of vore just like that and been for year like that and whenever you didn't desire to practice digestion we called endosoma, the action of containing a prey through methods of vore. As the years approach and been exploring left and right more about vore and their wacky alternate ways of vore, around mid 2019 it came to surface for me about a way to practice digestion without being fatal, the term "sentient" or "transformation" was discovered by me and from there I learned multiples way to practice non-fatal vore but still with the perk of digestion.
As I went through months learning more, it came to my attention a wall separating people whenever it comes to how would you call this type of vore whenever in an art or a RP, some preds use the enzymes to break down the prey's body, while retaining their "soul", "essence", "conscious" and others while slowly absorbing their liquid mass to wherever they desire to store, and said prey would be alive and sentient in whatever part of the body pred choose. If the prey is alive, thinking and if pred given the chance, move or wobble, it can't be fatal, because the vore definition of fatal is when the prey is deceased inside a pred. So I will call this situation I just explained a non-fatal scenario with the side of digestion.
Now here is what makes people starting falling from one side to another, some preds, actually I counted 15 that I am either acquantice or close friends does skip the whole enzyme/acids process and use their temperature or their walls from inside the gut and absorb the prey's body directly, making them start to use the term absorption instead of digestion, since they aren't using a third factor to work on the prey's mass or some "melt" prey's mass into a stew to be absorbed either in the belly or in the intestines.
This is where my doubts were making my mind haze: You would still be using your belly and you still would be breaking down the prey's body over, while keeping them "conscious" and THEN you would absorb them, that is still digesting, is just you are not using a liquid or any other process to use over the prey, not only that, the prey wouldn't feel pain or wouldn't be something irreversable making quite hard to use the word absorption just for the process of consumption of the fuel you would be gaining from a non-endo vore scenario.
Another reason people haven't really used the word digestion, it was the fear of being related to fatal vore, which is what the majority of the vore community are into it. There they don't wanna use what they think it is in fear of others being judgmental, should they not care what other thinks about their arts and tags? Absolutely. But that is super hard to pull off and many really can't do it, so they result into a more passive solution.
With all the filler and reasoning for my art and tags, it very difficult to appease everyone, can't take a middle ground on something without making some uncomfortable about the decisions, so I really would have to do things that seems more sense to me. Even if my points are making no sense. No matter what I see, I cant see something that is only absorption, unless is a gooey species, because no matter what belly it is, you always break the prey's body down either by your walls or your temperature inside or any wacky and cartoony ways to digest, is still the process of breaking down to make it easier to absorb later on.
TL:DR
If is not goo species, I call anything non-fatal non-endo vore a digestion process, I will of course use either soft_digestion or harmless_digestion instead of just digestion, because the word alone does mean for me fatal vore, but putting a situational word by the left of the digestion word would take a whole different meaning that represents something that has been in the community for almost a decade now.
This is an amateur journal, but I am using this topic to learn how to write better journals in the future in other topics I might bring it up.
Am I overthinking? Of course I am, gotta thank pandemic for making me free time to think about those things. Am I wasting my time writing this? Possibly, is just something I would enjoy to share to those that in the same situation as me after talking with some people, since I am busy with and study and not all the time to play games or RP, I decided to try a journal on FA.
A second main reason I would be writing this journal is to avoid misunderstanding whenever I would put the digestion tag on my non-fatal vore art. Because it will happen, as it happened to some furries that posted their art and had this bad situation every time they posted with a misunderstanding.
So digestion and absorption, in the beginning, back in 2011 I seen digestion as something fatal, while I seen absorption as something only "goo" creatures could be doing them, since you know, their whole body is their alimentary system. Digestion definition always was: "Breaking down food by mechanical and enzymatic action in the alimentary canal into substances that can be used by the body." And since we are a bunch of voraphiles most community keep their definition of vore just like that and been for year like that and whenever you didn't desire to practice digestion we called endosoma, the action of containing a prey through methods of vore. As the years approach and been exploring left and right more about vore and their wacky alternate ways of vore, around mid 2019 it came to surface for me about a way to practice digestion without being fatal, the term "sentient" or "transformation" was discovered by me and from there I learned multiples way to practice non-fatal vore but still with the perk of digestion.
As I went through months learning more, it came to my attention a wall separating people whenever it comes to how would you call this type of vore whenever in an art or a RP, some preds use the enzymes to break down the prey's body, while retaining their "soul", "essence", "conscious" and others while slowly absorbing their liquid mass to wherever they desire to store, and said prey would be alive and sentient in whatever part of the body pred choose. If the prey is alive, thinking and if pred given the chance, move or wobble, it can't be fatal, because the vore definition of fatal is when the prey is deceased inside a pred. So I will call this situation I just explained a non-fatal scenario with the side of digestion.
Now here is what makes people starting falling from one side to another, some preds, actually I counted 15 that I am either acquantice or close friends does skip the whole enzyme/acids process and use their temperature or their walls from inside the gut and absorb the prey's body directly, making them start to use the term absorption instead of digestion, since they aren't using a third factor to work on the prey's mass or some "melt" prey's mass into a stew to be absorbed either in the belly or in the intestines.
This is where my doubts were making my mind haze: You would still be using your belly and you still would be breaking down the prey's body over, while keeping them "conscious" and THEN you would absorb them, that is still digesting, is just you are not using a liquid or any other process to use over the prey, not only that, the prey wouldn't feel pain or wouldn't be something irreversable making quite hard to use the word absorption just for the process of consumption of the fuel you would be gaining from a non-endo vore scenario.
Another reason people haven't really used the word digestion, it was the fear of being related to fatal vore, which is what the majority of the vore community are into it. There they don't wanna use what they think it is in fear of others being judgmental, should they not care what other thinks about their arts and tags? Absolutely. But that is super hard to pull off and many really can't do it, so they result into a more passive solution.
With all the filler and reasoning for my art and tags, it very difficult to appease everyone, can't take a middle ground on something without making some uncomfortable about the decisions, so I really would have to do things that seems more sense to me. Even if my points are making no sense. No matter what I see, I cant see something that is only absorption, unless is a gooey species, because no matter what belly it is, you always break the prey's body down either by your walls or your temperature inside or any wacky and cartoony ways to digest, is still the process of breaking down to make it easier to absorb later on.
TL:DR
If is not goo species, I call anything non-fatal non-endo vore a digestion process, I will of course use either soft_digestion or harmless_digestion instead of just digestion, because the word alone does mean for me fatal vore, but putting a situational word by the left of the digestion word would take a whole different meaning that represents something that has been in the community for almost a decade now.
This is an amateur journal, but I am using this topic to learn how to write better journals in the future in other topics I might bring it up.
The question is who patted me?
But yeah I agree with this but I should say that I've been in the vore community idk 7~8 years now and tbh from what I've seen no one can really come up with a solid definition for absorption when it comes to vore, I've seen it used for slimes, for digestion with heat, or even for a stand in for weight gain. Part of the problem is the community is kinda. . . I guess fractured so it makes making common keywords difficult
But, yes. You are right. It is digestion, unless it is a direct absorption without any sort of melting, really. People get really prickly about this, though.
I would like to be able to ask questiosns about it
It's just scares me when someone wants to digest and i just "don't trust" when they say it's soft
Might be cuz nobody shows that part (or atleast i didn't see) of reformation
A lot of questions and walls in my mind in this stuff
Aboutthe way you write it, is very clear and absolutly soft to dont kick anyone, the effort on this notices and i thank you for writing this!
And is scary at first, well still is, but is more understandable as you find individuals, not a group/community, it helps create and understand views about those words, each one with their perspective, some will say is still absorption and I will respect that 100%.
You can ask me anything really, discord is reconmended or Tele if you got like more than 2 questions, I could happily give you my opinion about it.
I can totally understand why people want to separate themselves from the term "digestion", because of the connotation of what that process is, but it becomes confusing when you find there are two definitions of absorption; the "harmless, painless digestion", and the literal "goop/slime/fat assimilation".
But personally, whether you call your stomach digestion painless, squishy, soft, harmless, "exorpstion", acid-free or not, it's pretty much going to fit under "digestion" in my books. Some people say digestion is only for masochistic prey, and sadistic prey, as justification. But I think that it really needs to be pressed that digestion does not have to be something hideous that implies harm or pain. If anything, a new definition needs to be made so it doesn't overlap with what absorption is traditionally.
Not only that digestion don't necessarily means the use of acids/enzymes, digestion is the term used to break food into smaller portions so it can be used, even direct absorption, depending how is described could be include the word, of course the absorption will be together, but digesting is there.
Another example for stereotypical in the vore community, is "lewd vore can never be wholesome, because is 18+", this is a topic for PMs, but is something to be aware too.