cubs = pedophile ban it already

mind crimes thought police

if you ban cub porn that is equal to hitler burning jews

and black people getting sprayed with a hose

I have a few cub characters :/ but i don't use them in any porn or sexual acts.

my bad
cub PORN = pedophile.
Cubs used as characters for an intriguing and/or impressive storyline or anything close to that matter may or may NOT be = pedophile

lol yes.

Thanks for correcting that.

b-b-b-but its just a HARMLESS outlet for our already dangerous and morally twisted minds!

why can't you be open minded to our sick fetish?

certainly there is no proof that cub porn causes people to have pedophiliac actions

:coughalanpandacough:
:coughfrankgembeckcough:

YEAH! no precedent there. Na Uh totally unrelated! yup yup

we're just normal folk

who enjoy wearing diapers/wearing children's clothing
acting like children
roleplaying as children
looking at anthromorphic child pornography

nothing wrong here Hoss.

wat.

my sentiments exactly

i love you

you can marry my left ear

my right ear is engaged to

I'll have to ask my wife, Blind Mag, if it's okay with her.

im not black or jewish

I both ,,,,so what about it !!!

fried chicken in my matzoh ball soup!
ch'yeah!

Good stuff
I'm down with the gelfite fish..

...oh man I want a rubin now...sesame bagels....damn you my South Florida environment...
Home of the retiree of the chosen people

I like cub art because I know it's just stuff drawn on a sheet of paper.

I know the stuff happening to cubs in cub art (well, most of it) isn't physically possible irl.

I'll put it this way: I hate pedophiles myself. I got two banned from this site already, but I think cub art doesn't necessarily mean people looking at it are ALL pedos.

some are, and these people are the ones to get rid of. leave the others like me alone.

banning cub art would create a slippery slope, resulting in the banning of many other questionable kinds of fetishes from the site such as rape, murder, vore, zoophilia and I forget some.

some of these may even be fetishes you personally like (that these are publicly stated or not is none of my business)

See, I have a little sister. she's three years old and I care for her a lot, yet I would never even dream of touching her at bad places, because I clearly know the distinction between the real world, and imagination.

>You'd never dream of touching her at bad places

Then why do you view pictures of this act being committed

haha

See, I don't look at pics of her getting touched at bad places.

when I look at cub art, I don't imagine it's happening to kids I know. that'd be wrong.

Also, I don't like EVERY pieces of cub art. there is some that is just plain too creepy.

You may claim I'm a pedophile anyway, but then you would have to take into consideration the fact that the cub art I like the most is the kind that is too unrealistic to happen irl.

your move, gentleman.

my move is the fact that

Well, you view children in compromising positions.

your move.

I don't view children, I view drawn stuff. drawn stuff isn't alive, despite even the most skilled artist's efforts. children are alive. children have feelings, and a mind too. children are physical, living beings with a soul, a conscience and are self-aware. strokes of a pencil (or a cursor) aren't self-aware for all we know.

I wouldn't touch or do anything to a living, self-aware being.

well, children.

when it comes to adults, I'm allowed to do almost anything to them as long as it's legal and they allow me to. >.>

fact - when it comes to the fine arts (writing, drawing, etc) the artist seems to reveal more about themselves than one could imagine.

debatable - graphic representations of clearly underage anthropomorphic (humanlike) characters reveal something about the artist and his/her fans

opinion - it is disgusting and people should be ashamed of themselves. ban it already.

makes me wonder what alan moore was thinking, EH? :U

Fiction != reality.

Also, I hate pedophiles. Really really hate them. If SammyFox was one, I wouldn't even date him.

So I can safely say he doesn't even come close to being one.

Fiction != reality.

what.

As long as no one touches a kid, no ones a goddamn pedophile.

Anyone can think anything. Actions dictate who and what you are.

Feel free to respond, I'll probably ignore it.

To the rest of you, lol troll thread.

pedophile = child fetish

masturbating to pictures of children = child fetish

Aristole can I get an analysis

how about you reply to me and my gf? or was my point so good you couldn't come up with something better to top it?

oh no, i was just ignoring you because you were ignoring my point completely

are you ready to talk, girlfriend

pedophile = child fetish

masturbating to pictures of children = child fetish

what the, I didn't ignore your point. if I did, I would have changed the topic.

you say that I jack it to children when I only jack it to stuff drawn on paper/data.

pictures of children = a representation of children.

you must be happy in your ideal world, do you?

I actually find your argument pretty null.

I stated before that fiction is not reality. Cub art is fictional and doesn't come close to being real.

Like Sammy already said - he doesn't enjoy all of it. There's some that's plain creepy, and I've gotta admit I agree with him.

Where I would find it a representation of children is when the characters represent real events and real children. Which I would assume is pretty hard to exist.


Also, way to insult me. However, your insults only prove how mature you are.

Real smooth, gentleman! Let's all give a clap to this guy! </sarcasm>

i didnt read what you and your creepy bf typed cause youre both sick pedos. Heh.

Way to jump on a conclusion that isn't even true to begin with. Go read the replies again (Oh, wait, again? you didn't even read them.) and learn.

At least I'm not the one being immature and ignoring replies, unlike you. I'd really like to see you engage in a heated debate that goes against your opinions.

But then again I bet you'll blatantly ignore the other side's comments.

Stupidity, how I love thee.

"I act like a dumbass with no reasoning because in my mind I think that these two guys are sick fucks"

nice try.

Pedophilia aint sick at all. Absolutely not.

I don't know, a judge wouldn't exactly smile upon a hard drive full of cubs. Fictional or not, they are still graphical representations of what someone is into.
Then again, there's no such thing as a normal fetishes anymore.
How did we go from kinky french maid outfits to cub vore inflation scat.

also: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/.....8/#cid:6374649

your girlfriend is pathetic and insignificant. ;D

y'know when someone has lost his argument when he/she start insulting your girlfriend/boyfriend.

Don't worry about Jay, that's just his massive ego talking. I've heard rumors that he's considering submitting measurements of it to the Guinness Book of World Records in hopes of beating Kanye West's record.

Not gonna happen

>>"As long as no one touches a kid, no ones a goddamn pedophile."

Not necessarily. As long as no one touches a kid they're not a child molester, but that doesn't mean they're not a pedo.

>>"Anyone can think anything. Actions dictate who and what you are."

And sometimes thoughts, tastes, and inclinations. Like how someone can be gay, bi, straight and still be a virgin, an asexual non-virgin, or a fetishist of some kind while not indulging in whatever they're into.

I mean I like my sports but ...what can of fan...would support the Cubs like that
A miserable team that can only match their lose record by how ugly their faces are.
BOOOO CUBS
Yankees for life.

P.S.
how does like The Chicago Cubs make you a pedophile...unless oh my god!!! free child tuedays is a front

<3

<br>

...you did that T_T

suddenly we were at the back of the bus

=3 the short one YAAYAYAYA!!!
I must have an extra chromosome ...cause I just got down

You are the greatest anti-troll I have ever seen.

I live on top of the bridges

I wish they'd ban it, but they never will. :I

if they ban it, exactly 47.3 percent of FA will quit and move to 12chan.

And nothing of value would be lost.

If I bone a kid/cub and then eat them alive and whole and digest them, is it OK?

I love it, and I can't live without it

baww

JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL, LIVING IN A LONELY WORLD.


I love the above argument. Heated debates about the validity of somebodies fetish Really makes me hot. Murr hurr hurr.

Wait, no, I'm good at this, let me guess.
You're posting the nebulous statement to get a reaction about something that you have an actual opinion on. However, you can't be bothered to make an actual case, so instead you'll wait for someone else to say something, hammer them with gotchas and nonsense, then claim that not only are they pathetic retards, but you're awesome because you never really cared in the first place. Cue massive me-too sycophant group.

When will this tired old bullshit die out? Jesus.

I'd be glad to discuss this. I have lots of knowledge on varying factors that come into this debate concerning morality, culture and psychology as it relates to this. And if this discussion was set up to share information and help people understand things, I'd have been glad to.

But I'm not going to sit here and try to do that when all I'll get for my trouble is the efforts of individuals- like yourself- who just want to corral themselves and others into two groups for convenient flogging/mindless praise. Stop baiting people. It's childish.

I'm afraid your reputation precedes you.

No, that you have a completely ineloquent and self-serving way of expressing it, if it even really is your opinion at all.

trollface.jpg

I think Norothics has a point though.

watch as pedophiles protect their retarded shit

i love how babyfurs and furries in general always protect their shit by using lots of smiley faces and hearts to hide their fucking rage. Why do you even read their responses.

Truth be told, i've jerked some hoof to cub porn before, yet until someone mentioned it was in softpaw, i didnt know it was cub porn, i felt extremely uncomfy about that.

But it was hot pronz, so whatever.

yeah, it's dangerous stuff. but try proving to legislature that there is a correlation between the porn and the acting upon the tendency. Alot of progressives will try and tell you it's like saying that homosexuals are more likely to commit rape. See the dilemma here?

taboo
boo-hoo

can't spell taboo without 'boo' ... coincidence?

Watch as people protect their fetish.
you.all.make.me.sick.

he is afterall, the two grandest letters in the alphabet.

all the semantics, all the rhetoric, all the doublespeak cannot justify that you.get.off.to.child.pornography

Your fake outrage is so transparent.

It's easy to see how low others can sink when you're watching from the bottom.

Ignorance, and the propensity to be completely alright with staying ignorant for the purpose of self-aggrandizement. That's where my real contention lies.

No. Because cub porn and pedophilia aren't what this journal's about. Getting people to post contrary opinions for easy jabbing is what this journal's about. Cub porn is just an easy vehicle.

That other message was meant for him.

And no, he doesn't just have a Rastafarian simplicity about him, that's a really bogus justification.

He's got a fishing pole, some fish who bit, some who didn't, and an overly talkative egotistical know-it-all harshing his buzz.

But I'm pretty much done now.

If you think that's what it is, be my guest

But maybe, you know, I'm allowed to have opinions? That I don't have to be a kindness robot and agree with everything everyone does? This isn't to make myself more popular, it's to voice my opinion, which apparently is what you're whining about that is all you want to do.

Then state your opinions in full, with honesty, instead of using a semi-sarcastic face to make contention out of the entire thing. Your opinion isn't invalid, your frame for it is.

This is my opinion in full.

Sorry that I don't feed YOUR curiosity nugget by typing a god damn novella when I can just shorten it down to one sentence.

Honestly I have a life and I'd rather not spend it explaining myself to future jailbitches.

Weak excuses and projections.
You're trying hard to justify yourself, and yet I have no ability to censor you.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/.....8/#cid:6378897

Oh, the beauty of this threading system.

allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment

if by graphic representation; cubporn=pedophilia

than simple anthromorphic illustration is tantamount to bestiality

barking = consenting

nobody likes taking individual cases into account and giving them their fair representation
generalization makes the world go 'round (because we'd all be too caught up on "important" details otherwise)

its not a question of fair representation in this case.

we, a majority who look at anthromorphic pornography, will ignore the hypocrisy to lambaste a minority who for all intents and purposes, are pedophile fodder...

but thats just me playing Devil's Advocate

true, especially furries more into feral porn who then try and defend it is not beastality and that's only because it stated as illegal by law.

If pedophilia or more specficially, child molesting and rape were not illegal, it probably wouldn't be so taboo and seen as such "a thing".


This is barring society's view on it of course. If there was still a majority of society's outcry against it or anything it would probably result in the same as now.

Laughs at all the dumbasses arguing to a five word Journal entry. X3

laughs at the dumbass who, in lieu of an argument wrote X3

On a related note: If I one day realized that I was somehow sexually attracted to children, I might kill myself. I mean seriously, to have such a damnably deviant sexual attraction like that must really suck to live with, knowing that acting on the urges your mind's wired to will get you arrested and locked away for a looong time. Then again, life is all about controlling/suppressing animal urges. But still...I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Just thinking about it makes me feel ill.

And...wow, you're in the military at 18? That's hardcore.

Thank you for not feeding the troll (i.e. me)

And yes, some of us enjoy it and sign up as soon as possible.

After reading all the responses to this journal I will say this, we need to be careful here. We are on a slope that can get extremely slippery real fast and real quick, and will be very hard to get off once started down. If we can get off this slope, the damage that will be done will be pretty much irreparable.

Mind you, I m not defending those who are either accused or convicted of child molestation or having child porn. I am looking at the larger picture here, I we start banning cub art, where will the madness end? The madness starts with cub art (porn), then moves to clean cub art, then moves to rape art, then to snuff art, then who knows?

I am hearing the 'neer needs to start banning those who draw cub porn, if that happens we lose 20% of the artists (writen and visual) here on FA, then if 'neer goes further and bans those of us who have faved cub art, there goes another 60% - 75% of teh remaining membes of the site.

Start using your heads for something other than a living, breathing hatrack people! Look at what is going on around the world, everyone who is an artist here, I don't care if you draw, write, compose music or whatever, we are slowly being censored to death. How long are we going to sit on our collective asses and let what is happeneing continue? Art whether it is visual, prose, written, musical, performing, or whatever is slowly but surely being censored to point where all that we will be seeing is nothing but plain ordinary vanilla art and soon that will be outlawed.

Examples of the coming censorship of various art media is, the man in Utah getting arrested, for buying lolicon and hentai art from Japan, another person in Austrailia getting arrested and jailed for having Simpsons porn, not to mention the thousands of other innocent people who are going to jail for having art that is in no way, related to real life events. And yes I am asking the question again, how long are we going to allow this to happen before we start to do something to stop this disturbing trend?

I know that everyone knows about Gembeck getting arressted and sent to prison for five years, registeing as a sex offender for the rest of his natural life just for having child porn. Now think, if those of us who have cub art on opur PCs, we are possibly in the governments crosshairs for the possibility of possessing CP.

People like Alan PandaBear are not good for the furry community, but there is one shining point in this, at least he wasn't a US senators aide. If that would have been the case, then the furry community would have been in some serious shit. But 99% of the people here on FA, Fchan, and various other sites fail to see the noose that is slowly but surely tightening around our collective necks. Before we all will know it,most of us will be in jail, convicted of possing illegal art that the governemts of the world deems to be illegal.