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13 years ago
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Okay, so I recently uploaded a screenshot of some things I made in minecraft using a new mod I installed, and it was immediately taken down and I received this note:
I have removed this submission due to its violation of the following section of the site's AUP:
Not Permitted
Screenshots of applications, games, movie or websites
to which I replied
Okay, I've seen many other minecraft screenshots, so is there some quality required for it to be approved such as at least partially modified outside of game? (although not even all the ones I've seen match this)
and was told
It's not a quality issue. It just means that the submissions you saw haven't been seen by staff, or haven't been reported in trouble tickets. Minecraft screenshots are not acceptable.
my latest response to them was
May I say that I was just using the game as a means to express myself like any other creative program. I haven't claimed the rights to minecraft or the mod, but I did make the build, create and/or modify the skins and customize the characters. I'm not saying that this doesn't still violate the current upload policy, but maybe the policy should be reviewed and revised with this in mind.
Just saying, what makes using digital blocks to create art so different from pixels? I used a program to make something unique and wanted to show others. Do you agree or am I completely out of place with this?
*Update*
So I went to the Acceptable Upload Policy at the top of the page and double checked the rules and then sent this:
I think you're thinking of an outdated version of the policy. Currently it says
What we don't permit:
All media:
which the uploader does not have the legal rights to post
which was neither made directly by nor directly for the uploader
which has been traced or plagiarized
made to harass or demean others
which, the user’s content aside, is of poor quality (examples: fuzzy audio, blurry/rotated photos, blocky images)
lacking a meaningful amount of unique/original content
1. The minecraft Terms of Use page states
you're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game
so I have the legal rights to post.
2. I made what the picture was featuring and didn't claim anything I didn't make as mine
3. It wasn't traced and I stated my sources, so it's not plagiarized
4. no
5. There's nothing wrong with the quality
6. as I said in the other message, I made the build, characters, and skins.
The only other thing is that the AUP says in things it allows in scraps
Personal photography/screenshots
I'm not sure what qualifies a personal screenshot, but if it just needs to be moved to scraps instead of being in my gallery then I can do that
and this is what I got back
At the moment, staff applies the AUP restriction to screenshots to Minecraft. They are not acceptable, so they are deleted when they're seen by staff or reported by users. The Minecraft terms of use does not override FA's AUP, because FA is a privately made and privately run website that has no legal ties to Minecraft's creators. We set our own policies, and at the moment those policies do not permit screenshots of games like Minecraft.
It is entirely possible a future AUP revision could permit Minecraft content. FA's main focus is to showcase user-created content, and creative expression is a big part of what makes Minecraft so popular.
That's a possibility, but it's not the case at the moment. For right now MC screenshots are not permitted. But if that changes an announcement will be made to inform the community about it.
Okay, to start, AUP stands for Acceptable Upload Policy, and nowhere in there does it say that screenshots are unacceptable, only that they should be put in scraps. And if it's not in the official AUP why are the staff treating it as some official rule? You'd think if something "official" like
Not Permitted
Screenshots of applications, games, movie or websites
was so important, they'd cover it in the Acceptable Upload Policy about what is and isn't acceptable so everyone can see it and be aware. Also, why would users be reporting it if from the rules they can see, there's nothing wrong with it?
Next, when I sited the Minecraft Terms of Use giving me (the uploader) legal rights to post
is was just following FA's rules. Obviously that rule is making sure I have the legal rights from whatever other source or whatever is involved in the submission, and if I don't have that legal right, then FurAffinity says I don't have the legal right from them to publish it here.
I understand that this person is supposedly doing their job, but with this stupid crap I'm getting back about some rule that I can't find or see when I've clearly backed my case, and then them saying stupid things like about Minecraft's Terms of Use not overriding FurAffinity's AUP when I obviously know that, I'm getting really pissed.
I have removed this submission due to its violation of the following section of the site's AUP:
Not Permitted
Screenshots of applications, games, movie or websites
to which I replied
Okay, I've seen many other minecraft screenshots, so is there some quality required for it to be approved such as at least partially modified outside of game? (although not even all the ones I've seen match this)
and was told
It's not a quality issue. It just means that the submissions you saw haven't been seen by staff, or haven't been reported in trouble tickets. Minecraft screenshots are not acceptable.
my latest response to them was
May I say that I was just using the game as a means to express myself like any other creative program. I haven't claimed the rights to minecraft or the mod, but I did make the build, create and/or modify the skins and customize the characters. I'm not saying that this doesn't still violate the current upload policy, but maybe the policy should be reviewed and revised with this in mind.
Just saying, what makes using digital blocks to create art so different from pixels? I used a program to make something unique and wanted to show others. Do you agree or am I completely out of place with this?
*Update*
So I went to the Acceptable Upload Policy at the top of the page and double checked the rules and then sent this:
I think you're thinking of an outdated version of the policy. Currently it says
What we don't permit:
All media:
which the uploader does not have the legal rights to post
which was neither made directly by nor directly for the uploader
which has been traced or plagiarized
made to harass or demean others
which, the user’s content aside, is of poor quality (examples: fuzzy audio, blurry/rotated photos, blocky images)
lacking a meaningful amount of unique/original content
1. The minecraft Terms of Use page states
you're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game
so I have the legal rights to post.
2. I made what the picture was featuring and didn't claim anything I didn't make as mine
3. It wasn't traced and I stated my sources, so it's not plagiarized
4. no
5. There's nothing wrong with the quality
6. as I said in the other message, I made the build, characters, and skins.
The only other thing is that the AUP says in things it allows in scraps
Personal photography/screenshots
I'm not sure what qualifies a personal screenshot, but if it just needs to be moved to scraps instead of being in my gallery then I can do that
and this is what I got back
At the moment, staff applies the AUP restriction to screenshots to Minecraft. They are not acceptable, so they are deleted when they're seen by staff or reported by users. The Minecraft terms of use does not override FA's AUP, because FA is a privately made and privately run website that has no legal ties to Minecraft's creators. We set our own policies, and at the moment those policies do not permit screenshots of games like Minecraft.
It is entirely possible a future AUP revision could permit Minecraft content. FA's main focus is to showcase user-created content, and creative expression is a big part of what makes Minecraft so popular.
That's a possibility, but it's not the case at the moment. For right now MC screenshots are not permitted. But if that changes an announcement will be made to inform the community about it.
Okay, to start, AUP stands for Acceptable Upload Policy, and nowhere in there does it say that screenshots are unacceptable, only that they should be put in scraps. And if it's not in the official AUP why are the staff treating it as some official rule? You'd think if something "official" like
Not Permitted
Screenshots of applications, games, movie or websites
was so important, they'd cover it in the Acceptable Upload Policy about what is and isn't acceptable so everyone can see it and be aware. Also, why would users be reporting it if from the rules they can see, there's nothing wrong with it?
Next, when I sited the Minecraft Terms of Use giving me (the uploader) legal rights to post
is was just following FA's rules. Obviously that rule is making sure I have the legal rights from whatever other source or whatever is involved in the submission, and if I don't have that legal right, then FurAffinity says I don't have the legal right from them to publish it here.
I understand that this person is supposedly doing their job, but with this stupid crap I'm getting back about some rule that I can't find or see when I've clearly backed my case, and then them saying stupid things like about Minecraft's Terms of Use not overriding FurAffinity's AUP when I obviously know that, I'm getting really pissed.
