Paysend?

I am not sure if it will work but I'll try

Thanks, I'll research that one

Paysend has been recommended by some other Russian artists i've seen. No one blames the Russian people for whats happening. we want everyone safe and to have a good life.

So
Is there any alternative?

It's really horrible. I'm so sorry. :( I wonder.. is there any other alternatives to paypal?

OH. I just found this.

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9682864/

Those services didn't work in Russia from the beginning, and sadly this won't change.
But I appreciate the effort, thank you

Oh dear!!! Gosh, that's awful. Umm, I found a more detailed updated list. You may have seen it. But I wanted to throw it your way just in case. https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10151629

All I can say is that I hope that you're able to hold out and one day return when this is all over and the sanctions are lifted.

Do your best, hang in there, we know you didn't ask for this, we can only hope that the turning point is coming soon.

been talking to a friend of mine in russia in the same situation. if youre prepared to take the time to learn how it works then crypto is an option, maybe a last resort. it cant be geoblocked because your crypto wallet isnt tied to your location. and you dont have to use stuff like bitcoin that goes up and down in price, you can use stablecoins like usdc which are the same as usd. getting customers to pay with it will be more difficult but it might be better than nothing

This might be useful indeed. If you have any suggestions, that would be great - where can I start?

They were however already discussing forbidding crypto in russia, because of lack of ways to tax it, if I recall correctly. I may be really wrong, but I suggest at least looking into that issue

its a bit complicated. the part that us/eu able to sanction is the exchanges where you swap the crypto for fiat cash. they can push sanctions on the big international exchanges (like binance) that dont want to lose international business. they can't do anything to stop local russian-only exchanges. the russian government might, who knows with them atm. but if you store your assets in a wallet instead of on an exchange they are safe, there is no possible way for them to be blocked or sanctioned by govts or anything. the weakpoint is your secret key phrase (like a password to your wallet). if you store it somewhere insecure like on your pc then it can be stolen. you need to leave it written down on paper, not digitally

And turning into crypto currencies would get you hate in the furry fandom. Concerns like environmental pollution, scams and investment losses were pushed by popular furries to turn the furry fandom against it.

what do you expect these guys to do if russia is isolated like north korea? that's happening right in front of us. they have to be able to get work and get paid somehow.

it's a last resort for sure, but its better to have a last resort than nothing

I was giving a warning since a bunch of big name furries and moral crusaders made such a technological panic out of crypto currencies(and NFTs) for the past year. Its a lot of BS, but it's how the attitude is in the art world.

ah right sorry, im an idiot and misread your comment. yes, you are right ofc. a lot of reasons why it will be a hard sell if theyre left with no other option

Even if there are alternatives, there's an ethical issue of circumventing the sanctions. People are calling for boycotts against companies still operating in Russia.

its a bit of a wild west and simple guides for beginners are hard to find so i've just written something up as i need to share it with some other russian friends anyway. to be clear it's going to be a steep learning curve. but if you take the time to google and read about these concepts you should be able to work it out. now is probably the time to learn so you have it ready as a last resort.

1. Get a wallet. This is an address on the blockchain where your funds are stored, like a bank acct. But unlike a bank there's no entity overseeing these i.e. they can't be 'blocked' or shut down by sanctions. As long as you protect your seed phrase (see below) the funds in your wallet will be safe. But equally, if you're careless you are on your own - there's no 'customer support'.
>>Set up a wallet on pc with metamask (in-browser, use with chrome or firefox), on android i'd suggest trustwallet. These apps aren't the wallet itself, they are just the ui to access your wallet.
>>You'll get a 'secret seed/key' phrase. This is the password to recover your wallet and funds if anything happens to the phone, pc etc - you can ALWAYS access your funds as long as you have this phrase. You must keep it safe, someone can take this and steal your funds. Never store it digitally, write it on multiple pieces of paper and hide them.

2. Find an exchange. These are the businesses where you can swap fiat currency for the cryptocurrencies, basically how you move funds between your bank account and your wallet.
>>Don't store funds on the exchange itself as they can be sanctioned, same as the banks. Just use them as a stepping stone to quickly move funds between bank and wallet.
>>The international exchanges are more at risk of sanctions e.g. binance, kraken. I'd normally suggest those two but they might cave to eu/us pressure and block russian users from using them in which case you'll need to find another. They will be fine to use for the time being especially while you learn, just don't leave funds sitting on there.
>>Best thing to do will be to find a reputable russian-based exchange, since the us/eu can't stop them providing their service.

So in the worst case scenario, you can receive funds in your wallet but have no exchange to move those funds to your bank account. Not ideal, but it would be temporary and at least a way to keep receiving payments for work even if you cant spend it right away.

3. Get customers to pay. For the ones who are willing to give it a try the easiest idiot-proof way for them to send you funds would be:
>>Get trustwallet (phone app)
>>Buy Smart Chain BNB directly with a card
>>Send it to your wallet address (like a bank acct number you can give them)
>>You receive it instantly and can swap it to a stablecoin like USDC which is the same as having us dollars.
>>When you want to send to your bank account, send the USDC (or BUSD or USDT) from your wallet to an exchange and then withdraw from the exchange to your bank.

It won't mean much to you now but the reason I suggest Smart Chain BNB is because a: Binance Smart Chain has very low fees (<10 cents to send funds) and is easy to access compared to most, b: when you pay network fees to make transactions you need to pay those fees in specific cryptocurrencies (called 'gas'). On Smart Chain, the crypto used for gas is Smart Chain BNB. Sending funds with the gas token itself is the simplest way to make sure your customers are able to execute the transaction (if you try to send a different coin but dont have enough 'gas' then the transaction will fail).

Im assuming some of you russian artists stay in touch through private groups yea? it might be worth some of you learning to explore this stuff together. it's a space that is not user-friendly, full of jargon, and evolves very quickly so any tutorials/guides that appear can be quickly outdated. the safest thing to do would be to put a very small amount of money into it and just familiarise with how to move it around. this should also help a bit with some of the technical parts I describe above: https://www.bsc.news/post/bsc-tutor.....ce-smart-chain

Holy shit, thank you for a detailed information, this actually gives a bit of hope. I'm gonna explore this field now, looks like the time has come

no prob. i dumped it in a journal so others can use it too if they have to, can ask questions etc https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10152289

One other thing to make super clear: wallets themselves are anonymous. they aren't linked to you personally, nor your geographic location. they're created out of thin air without any personal id. there's not really such thing as 'banning russian wallets', or banning transactions between wallets (i.e. being able to send and receive payments), or revoking access to wallets. it literally can't be done

That's great, thanks! Seems like I figured out the basics, probably gonna try it out once I'm done with all the current tasks

This world fucking sucks

Well that’s what happens when a madman starts a war.

Ikr

How would a site like Ko-Fi work?

Ko-Fi works through PayPal.

Ah, didn't know.

Yeah. It’s just awful. :( I can only hope that it doesn’t last long but given Putin’s reputation, I sadly doubt it will be short.

Ну Payoneer пока работает, но там строго с санкционными банками рф. Т.е. например мне карту/счет сбера для вывода средств просто удалили. Альфабанк пока доступен, но вроде тока до 20го марта и хз что дальше будет. В теории, можно привязать карту не подсанкционного банка (типа Тинькофф), и должно быть ок. Так же там типа можно даже завести карту, но для рф данная опция закрыта с 2020го. Так что чисто счет.
Это не шибко удобная платежная система, но как говориться: хоть что-то лучше чем вообще ничего. (я обычно туда деньги с патреона вывожу)

# Так же чисто для инфы (если swift вооообще вырубят), то есть такая платежная система Unionpay. По сути аналог нашей "Мир", ток китайская. К ней подключены некоторые банки у нас и в европе. Т.е. можно будет проводить хоть какие-то манипуляции и телодвижения.

Спасибо за преложенные варианты, я изучу их

Да без проблем.)

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10145978/

Someone made a journal outlining some alternative payment methods for Russian illustrators in the community if that helps.

I'd seriously consider leaving the country if at all possible, otherwise good luck.

Thank you for the info, I'll research the systems you've suggested

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10151973/
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10145978/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/40432815/

This is all I can offer right now.

I would humbly suggest looking up on crypto payments. This is what it was made for - punching holes through financial firewalls.

I can offer you some free training on how to receive coins, how to trade, how to use wallets, etc. Or you can gather a bunch of friends, create a Telegram group and make a "crypto course".

Can you help me with it? Basic info
Mail: ozirz000[at]gmail.com
Telegram Ozirz

That would be useful, yes

Truth be told, it'll probably only be a matter of time before Paysend is sanctioned as well.

It really is fucking devastating that the people who just wanna live their lives and not take part in imperialism have to suffer for Putin's sins. It's more devastating that soldiers have to die and even moreso that Ukrainian civilians have to die.

I can at least look upon the silver lining that at least most russians can see through the state-led media's blatant lies on the situation and see Putin for the incredibly dangerous man he is, even if they are currently powerless to cast off his yoke.

OK, hang on, update on Paysend:

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46232540/

Also, Butterfly Dragon is constantly updating a list of alternatives, so keep an eye on their page.

Посмотри в сторону bymecoffe (аналог ко-фи, но работает с Пайониром и банковским счетом напрямую) или чисто Пайонир. Тот же пейсент чот в минусе по рейтингу. Там часто исчезают деньги и поддержке пахую.
Я в такой же жопе, как и многие. Тоже читаю журналы и ищу альтернативы Палке.

Ugh, Good luck, just know no one begrudges the average citizen but I apologize in advance of the more thick-skulled jingoism that'll be flung out.

I'm so sorry you're dealing with all of this! We all know the people of Russia are not responsible for this war.

I hope I don't sound insensitive for suggesting this, but have you explored what it would take for you to leave russia, just in case they decide to drop the iron curtain again?

Take a look that this journal, lots of alternatives suggested https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10151629/

I'm late to this, but I've been seeing this idea pop up on Twitter and it might work: https://twitter.com/Ryukiroart/status/1501192013961732096?t=peLM4i7XrkQaI1MfGv97ag&s=19

I can only offer hugs to you and your shark ladies.

I thought that my fellow germans showed the world from 1939 to 1945 - with support from Japan on a similar level - that "Stronk Man Politiking" is bad for ones countries health and popualtion - global sympathy levels, too - but it seems every few generations somebody has to do a reality check if this still holds true.

Be safe, and well, I hope that your three shark ladies will be safe, too.

Or, maybe, perhaps the three sharkgirls will end up this time on earth and educate humanity....
That be nice.
And sexy.