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serotonin. Vurmin and I are scheming to lay the smack-down on a certain someone here...
serotonin. Vurmin and I are scheming to lay the smack-down on a certain someone here...
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Of course not! I think Ace is a fine person. I don't see why he hates me so much. ;-; It's like he has had this vendetta against me for the past several months, like he finds reasons to put me down and drag my name through the mud to other furs. And no, I did not steal his concept. I know two other hyenasaurs, in fact. :)
Um...Ace calls THEM popufurs. None of us are by any means popufur, 'nor do we want to be. If you want, we all have screenshots as proof that ACE is the one making threats and still making fun of Gina and the others on his page. And none of us know why because we haven't talked to him in MONTHS. Mostly because he has us all blocked, but also because we sorely wanted to just let this shit go and forget it, but Ace INSISTS on still posting about us and our friends unprovoked.
I seriously hope you do. This has been going on for 6 MONTHS now. Half a year. You think any of us still want to be dealing with Ace? Or knowing that he still makes posts about people behind their backs, and they can't respond because he has them blocked like a little coward?
Wanna know another lie? His mate Eyon is actually him. They're fake. How do I know? Both Ace AND Eyon's FA accounts were banned when Ace got in trouble for the ALT accounts. Why? Because BOTH of the accounts had the same IP address, meaning they're the same person.
You think you know him? You think he's an innocent victim being attacked for no reason? He's not. At this point, it's the other way around. Don't get me wrong, no one is actually HURT by what Ace posts, but the fact he's still doing it after NONE of us talk to him or have done anything in months, is insane.
Wanna know another lie? His mate Eyon is actually him. They're fake. How do I know? Both Ace AND Eyon's FA accounts were banned when Ace got in trouble for the ALT accounts. Why? Because BOTH of the accounts had the same IP address, meaning they're the same person.
You think you know him? You think he's an innocent victim being attacked for no reason? He's not. At this point, it's the other way around. Don't get me wrong, no one is actually HURT by what Ace posts, but the fact he's still doing it after NONE of us talk to him or have done anything in months, is insane.
Indeed, that was a problem when we first speculated that they were the same person, then Ace and "Eyon" posted pictures. Then we noticed.
Ace and Eyon look very similar. Their only differences are hair/eye color. Which is EASILY changeable with hair dye and contacts. It's already been indisputably proven that they're the same person. Like I said, both FA accounts were created and accessed by the same IP address, and they don't live together. They don't even live in the same state. So it was the same person operating both accounts.
Ace and Eyon look very similar. Their only differences are hair/eye color. Which is EASILY changeable with hair dye and contacts. It's already been indisputably proven that they're the same person. Like I said, both FA accounts were created and accessed by the same IP address, and they don't live together. They don't even live in the same state. So it was the same person operating both accounts.
You OBVIOUSLY have no idea what kind of person Ace is, or what they've been doing to US. Of course, I wouldn't expect Ace to show you any of their malicious posts, or tell you they faked suicide because we told him to chill, when he flipped out at one of OUR friends over a HYENA FURSONA. Or the fact he's banned from Furaffinity because he made ALTs to harass US, even AFTER we didn't say a thing to him or about him for a month.
Ace is a manipulative, lying sack of crap. And you just coming here and harassing someone based off of what HE tells you, shows me you're a blind follower of his and nothing more. I hope you grow up soon, so you can realize you're being used as a means for Ace to keep harassing us, because you're making it way too easy for Ace to spoon-feed his lies to you, and make you think he's the Holy Lion Jesus of furries. Well, he's not.
Ace is a manipulative, lying sack of crap. And you just coming here and harassing someone based off of what HE tells you, shows me you're a blind follower of his and nothing more. I hope you grow up soon, so you can realize you're being used as a means for Ace to keep harassing us, because you're making it way too easy for Ace to spoon-feed his lies to you, and make you think he's the Holy Lion Jesus of furries. Well, he's not.
Here are just a few
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....08363681_n.jpg - they're referring to Gina
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....51846151_n.jpg - Again, talking about Gina
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....13272805_n.jpg - Referring to Morticia
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....84305554_n.jpg - About Gina, again
Mind you, ALL of these shots are comments and stuff that happened over MONTHS, and none of us, including those he's talking about, have talked to him. And yet he still insists on talking about them still.
There's TONS more but I don't want to make a huge comment.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....08363681_n.jpg - they're referring to Gina
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....51846151_n.jpg - Again, talking about Gina
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....13272805_n.jpg - Referring to Morticia
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot.....84305554_n.jpg - About Gina, again
Mind you, ALL of these shots are comments and stuff that happened over MONTHS, and none of us, including those he's talking about, have talked to him. And yet he still insists on talking about them still.
There's TONS more but I don't want to make a huge comment.
Seeing by your profile you're being nothing but a impetuous 15 year old brat who seems to have nothing better to do than to come to someone's submission and bitch about something that obviously does not concern you in any way. Please kindly shut the fuck up already you have been bitching for 4-5 days already, do you even have a life or do you literally sit on your ass all day harassing people because you think you're so damn cool. Grow the fuck up kid.
Please learn to type it's very hard to take your post in seriously.
You are coming here starting nothing but drama just because it has 'Ace' written on it, who the fuck cares if you know an Ace it's not about you.
Ohhh noooo maybe because the fact that you are a kid and your mother is 100% on that status, stop trying to act so grown up
Also it's spelled "speak" deary please learn that very well or else you're not going to get a A+ on that spelling test.
ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
You are coming here starting nothing but drama just because it has 'Ace' written on it, who the fuck cares if you know an Ace it's not about you.
Ohhh noooo maybe because the fact that you are a kid and your mother is 100% on that status, stop trying to act so grown up
Also it's spelled "speak" deary please learn that very well or else you're not going to get a A+ on that spelling test.
ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Hon, I think you have the story a little backwards. I'm not going to forget it, but I will tell you this. Knowledge is important and it's important to look into stories and ideals before you believe them. This is called believing something blindly and often hides the truth.
You seem like a very nice, young impressionable girl. I have no doubt you are being manipulated by the person you consider your friend. Please, just be careful and again, look into things to prevent this from happening. Without proof you know nothing. Keep that in mind as it's not important only here, this is an aspect of one's entire life that we, as people need to follow through with.
I assume you are intelligent but you are just fed lies and quite possibly too sweet, therefore afraid to make the tought decision to look into the truth about this situation and possibly see how unkind a person your friend is.
Just be careful in life and don't assume everything you hear is true unless you deem so for yourself. With this you need proof and from multiple sources. It's even good to hear argumentative sides of things to see if you agree with them or not and why.
I honestly believe you needed this bit of advice. I hope you heed it. Merry Christmas and take this with you, on into the New Year. You will not regret it.
You seem like a very nice, young impressionable girl. I have no doubt you are being manipulated by the person you consider your friend. Please, just be careful and again, look into things to prevent this from happening. Without proof you know nothing. Keep that in mind as it's not important only here, this is an aspect of one's entire life that we, as people need to follow through with.
I assume you are intelligent but you are just fed lies and quite possibly too sweet, therefore afraid to make the tought decision to look into the truth about this situation and possibly see how unkind a person your friend is.
Just be careful in life and don't assume everything you hear is true unless you deem so for yourself. With this you need proof and from multiple sources. It's even good to hear argumentative sides of things to see if you agree with them or not and why.
I honestly believe you needed this bit of advice. I hope you heed it. Merry Christmas and take this with you, on into the New Year. You will not regret it.
Don't feel bad. Just keep it as a piece of helpful information that will always be with you. We know you're a sweet girl. My friends mean no harm, they just have no sympathy for Ace's lackey's. I'm not telling you to stop being friends with Ace, or to be upset, but rather to, perhaps apologize, where you see fit, and take it into consideration that perhaps you don't know if Ace is telling the truth or not.
I could tell you the truth but I wouldn't wish for you to believe it without the proof to back it up. I don't wish to give you knowledge with the potential of it being fake. If you're ever interested we can show you a few things, however, I don't think that's necessary as I believe you have a bit better of an understanding on the situation.
If you are interested in this however, I would be happy to explain it to you from beginning to end, in point form. I will give you my unbiased opinion and provide proof. Again, don't feel bad. Apologize where necessary, see truth for yourself as it will help you grow as a human and help your mind expand to bigger and better. And most of all.. Don't let anyone tell you who to be friends with.. whether it's Ace telling you not to like us or us telling you not to like Ace. And being friends with one person does not mean you can not be friends with the others. I digress. No hard feelings, we know you're young and we've all gone through learning this lesson. Take time to reflect on this as it's very healthy. Again, Merry Christmas. Do take care.
I could tell you the truth but I wouldn't wish for you to believe it without the proof to back it up. I don't wish to give you knowledge with the potential of it being fake. If you're ever interested we can show you a few things, however, I don't think that's necessary as I believe you have a bit better of an understanding on the situation.
If you are interested in this however, I would be happy to explain it to you from beginning to end, in point form. I will give you my unbiased opinion and provide proof. Again, don't feel bad. Apologize where necessary, see truth for yourself as it will help you grow as a human and help your mind expand to bigger and better. And most of all.. Don't let anyone tell you who to be friends with.. whether it's Ace telling you not to like us or us telling you not to like Ace. And being friends with one person does not mean you can not be friends with the others. I digress. No hard feelings, we know you're young and we've all gone through learning this lesson. Take time to reflect on this as it's very healthy. Again, Merry Christmas. Do take care.
Trust me, we don't mean any harm. We're tired of younger and newer furries following Ace and treating him like he's someone to look up to without question. Because he lies and acts superior. And unfortunately, without anyone coming forward and showing any proof that he's a nutjob, none of his little followers have a reason to question him. You're one of the very few who didn't just auto-block all of us like Ace has been telling his friends to. Which is why we came forward and showed you the truth.
Ace makes his other friends auto-block us, claiming that we're assholes that are going to troll them, when really he's afraid we'll contact them and show them what a jerk he is.
Ace makes his other friends auto-block us, claiming that we're assholes that are going to troll them, when really he's afraid we'll contact them and show them what a jerk he is.
(Pre-notes before my essay of hopeful peace: I might refer to Ace as a female because I got to know her that way. All the information I have is one-sided, and if you have counter-info, it would be appreciated. I am here as a peace-maker, and would hope you respect my awkward shambling into this conversation /without/ the usage of hostility. Thank you.)
Hello, and apologies for bringing this to relevance again after this time. You see, Ace was recently talking about this and posted a link to this today. I read a large portion of this and thought, "well, this doesn't really sound like the Ace I know..." so I have decided to attempt to get together what's up as a neutral party. (You have no idea how awkward and sorry I feel bringing this up. Not only because it was 9 months ago but also because I have severe social anxiety.)
From what Ace has told me, Gina and Morticia have been abusing her and cyberbullying her for a very long time, as well as stole her character concept. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant. I don't have both sides of the story in full-detail so I cannot judge. I'm not sure if either side has been abusing the other as of recent, so the rest of this message is a blind assumption.
It would be best for both sides to simply drop any anger and hatred and forget each other's existence. None of you need to know either side. Gina and Morticia never need to associate or talk about Ace, and vice versa. No hate art, no spreading of this information, no spies, no nothing. Simply ignoring the other's existence. You will never need to breathe the same air as her, or share the same drinking water, so why worry about it, alright? This is an offering of peace and I hope it will be taken instead of met with hostility or instead of being ignored.
Please and thank you,
Stylo
Hello, and apologies for bringing this to relevance again after this time. You see, Ace was recently talking about this and posted a link to this today. I read a large portion of this and thought, "well, this doesn't really sound like the Ace I know..." so I have decided to attempt to get together what's up as a neutral party. (You have no idea how awkward and sorry I feel bringing this up. Not only because it was 9 months ago but also because I have severe social anxiety.)
From what Ace has told me, Gina and Morticia have been abusing her and cyberbullying her for a very long time, as well as stole her character concept. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant. I don't have both sides of the story in full-detail so I cannot judge. I'm not sure if either side has been abusing the other as of recent, so the rest of this message is a blind assumption.
It would be best for both sides to simply drop any anger and hatred and forget each other's existence. None of you need to know either side. Gina and Morticia never need to associate or talk about Ace, and vice versa. No hate art, no spreading of this information, no spies, no nothing. Simply ignoring the other's existence. You will never need to breathe the same air as her, or share the same drinking water, so why worry about it, alright? This is an offering of peace and I hope it will be taken instead of met with hostility or instead of being ignored.
Please and thank you,
Stylo
Hello "neutral" party,
This isn't neutral in the least. This is a NINE MONTH OLD picture, that Ace keeps bringing up?? Really?
Now, I wasn't friends with these two when all this happened. But here is what I have noticed.
Mort and Gina never talk about Ace, EVER. The only time they ever brought her up is when Ace posts Asinine posts via her Facebook about them. I also witnessed Ace, constantly stealing their character concepts, repeatedly, whenever they post a new character, BOOM, stolen. Who's the thief? Who's the one dragging this on??
"Gina and Morticia never need to associate or talk about Ace, and vice versa. No hate art, no spreading of this information, no spies, no nothing. Simply ignoring the other's existence. You will never need to breathe the same air as her, or share the same drinking water, so why worry about it, alright? This is an offering of peace and I hope it will be taken instead of met with hostility or instead of being ignored."
They don't, it's ACE who keeps stringing this along. I've been friends with Gina and Mort for nearly 5 months now. AND THEY LEFT IT TO DIE. I suggest Ace does the same, it's an OLD picture she linked you.
Best Regards
Mocha
This isn't neutral in the least. This is a NINE MONTH OLD picture, that Ace keeps bringing up?? Really?
Now, I wasn't friends with these two when all this happened. But here is what I have noticed.
Mort and Gina never talk about Ace, EVER. The only time they ever brought her up is when Ace posts Asinine posts via her Facebook about them. I also witnessed Ace, constantly stealing their character concepts, repeatedly, whenever they post a new character, BOOM, stolen. Who's the thief? Who's the one dragging this on??
"Gina and Morticia never need to associate or talk about Ace, and vice versa. No hate art, no spreading of this information, no spies, no nothing. Simply ignoring the other's existence. You will never need to breathe the same air as her, or share the same drinking water, so why worry about it, alright? This is an offering of peace and I hope it will be taken instead of met with hostility or instead of being ignored."
They don't, it's ACE who keeps stringing this along. I've been friends with Gina and Mort for nearly 5 months now. AND THEY LEFT IT TO DIE. I suggest Ace does the same, it's an OLD picture she linked you.
Best Regards
Mocha
Hello,
I'm glad someone who wasn't directly involved but on her side finally stepped forward, because frankly--
I have not talked to Ace in literally near a year at this point. Over a year maybe even, I lost track of time. Ace blocked me on all fronts and was permanently banned from FA for block-evading to harass US.
I have made no mention of her until recently, when I found out she was STILL, ALMOST A YEAR LATER bringing us up and attempted to stir up more drama by making mocking images of myself and my friends.
If anyone stole anyone's concept, it's her. She went from a Hyena-Dino hybrid (ripping off Gina) and now she's a Rat who appears to be a convenient amalgam of my fursona,
, and possibly , who were all involved at the time. It's amazing how she's also all of a sudden interested in everything I am-- just like she was when Gina "copied" her, she did this same shit to Gina and now she's doing it to me. She can't come up with her own ideas so she has to rip people off and pretend they're monsters.
Would you like to know why Ace insists on dragging my name through the mud over a year later?
Would you like to know how this all started?
Because I told her to STOP harassing my friend when she had suggested a wolf/hyena hybrid.
Ace acts like the victim and she'll feed you lie after lie. I haven't had contact with her for nearly a year (except once on her Facebook Furry Fan Page, where she promptly blocked us after one comment) so... I'm not saying you have to believe me, but I IMPLORE you to take what she says with a grain of salt.
We have hundreds of screencaps stored away proving everything I've said, but I don't really feel like I have to.
I don't talk to Ace.
I don't think about Ace.
I want Ace to leave me the fuck alone and get on with her life.
I'm glad someone who wasn't directly involved but on her side finally stepped forward, because frankly--
I have not talked to Ace in literally near a year at this point. Over a year maybe even, I lost track of time. Ace blocked me on all fronts and was permanently banned from FA for block-evading to harass US.
I have made no mention of her until recently, when I found out she was STILL, ALMOST A YEAR LATER bringing us up and attempted to stir up more drama by making mocking images of myself and my friends.
If anyone stole anyone's concept, it's her. She went from a Hyena-Dino hybrid (ripping off Gina) and now she's a Rat who appears to be a convenient amalgam of my fursona,
, and possibly , who were all involved at the time. It's amazing how she's also all of a sudden interested in everything I am-- just like she was when Gina "copied" her, she did this same shit to Gina and now she's doing it to me. She can't come up with her own ideas so she has to rip people off and pretend they're monsters.Would you like to know why Ace insists on dragging my name through the mud over a year later?
Would you like to know how this all started?
Because I told her to STOP harassing my friend when she had suggested a wolf/hyena hybrid.
Ace acts like the victim and she'll feed you lie after lie. I haven't had contact with her for nearly a year (except once on her Facebook Furry Fan Page, where she promptly blocked us after one comment) so... I'm not saying you have to believe me, but I IMPLORE you to take what she says with a grain of salt.
We have hundreds of screencaps stored away proving everything I've said, but I don't really feel like I have to.
I don't talk to Ace.
I don't think about Ace.
I want Ace to leave me the fuck alone and get on with her life.
Oh hello, another witness to the insanity here.
Ace has Morticia and Gina blocked on just about every social network, website, and means possible. And neither of them have made any contact with her whatsoever in a year or so. And yet, in the span of that year, it is ACE who continued to post about Gina and Morticia, mostly on Facebook. Making insulting jokes, relating distasteful pictures to them, and generally going on about them with no provocation at all.
This whole thing started when Ace completely flipped her lid on one of our friends because she didn't agree with her character concept (God forbid someone "tarnish" Hyenas at the time, because that was Ace's obsession).
Then it started as a squabble with all of us involved because Ace was attacking our friend, over a Hyena character. Then dissolved into complete insanity when Ace managed to get her FA banned for harassment and a weird account called armyman surfaced, claiming to be Ace's Uncle, saying we put her in the Hospital over the harassment. Funny though, they failed to provide any proof of such a claim, and was later banned and confirmed that it was the same IP address as Ace that created the account. So she basically sockpuppeted an account and created this facade that she tried to kill herself.
Why? Who knows. But Ace has problems, and since then, my friends have been trying to just forget her and move on. And for a while it works, then Ace starts slinging their names in the mud for no reason once again. And now she's suddenly obsessed with Rats? How convenient.
She's the one continuing the idiocy and harassment. Not them. This picture is from when both parties were still warring. Since, only one is still going on about it.
Thanks.
Ace has Morticia and Gina blocked on just about every social network, website, and means possible. And neither of them have made any contact with her whatsoever in a year or so. And yet, in the span of that year, it is ACE who continued to post about Gina and Morticia, mostly on Facebook. Making insulting jokes, relating distasteful pictures to them, and generally going on about them with no provocation at all.
This whole thing started when Ace completely flipped her lid on one of our friends because she didn't agree with her character concept (God forbid someone "tarnish" Hyenas at the time, because that was Ace's obsession).
Then it started as a squabble with all of us involved because Ace was attacking our friend, over a Hyena character. Then dissolved into complete insanity when Ace managed to get her FA banned for harassment and a weird account called armyman surfaced, claiming to be Ace's Uncle, saying we put her in the Hospital over the harassment. Funny though, they failed to provide any proof of such a claim, and was later banned and confirmed that it was the same IP address as Ace that created the account. So she basically sockpuppeted an account and created this facade that she tried to kill herself.
Why? Who knows. But Ace has problems, and since then, my friends have been trying to just forget her and move on. And for a while it works, then Ace starts slinging their names in the mud for no reason once again. And now she's suddenly obsessed with Rats? How convenient.
She's the one continuing the idiocy and harassment. Not them. This picture is from when both parties were still warring. Since, only one is still going on about it.
Thanks.
I shall make a few notes to this, from person to person.
Mocha: I am a neutral party. Because I'm doing what I always do when something's not my business, I take the key information that I do know and attempt to put it into the conversation. I don't believe everything Ace says -- or what you guys say -- because there's literally no way to be sure any side is right or wrong unless I was there at the time of each individual crime and the spaces in between. Thus, I'm simply here to try to make peace and set Ace at ease. She's made herself a good friend of mine and she doesn't complain about you guys too often. It's more of like a passing thought where it's like "RUINED MY REP AND LIFE" and I'm sure we all get those where we think back to a time we didn't like and got upset. I came here in an attempt to make peace because Ace is upset and would like this all to disappear. I, being the hippie-and-peacemaker-and-bringer-of-justice of all my friend cliques have the habit of trying to make good on all the problems they've had in the past. She was talking about this because she found a 'spy" and I thought that peace needed to be made. Whether or not your party is in the right, or Ace's is, as I said before, is irrelevant. I am here to make peace. Ace wants the hate/parody art down, wants people to not spy on her, and wants all of this to go away. Is she still angry? Well... yeah, but that's because she considers you guys to have ruined her life and reputation, or rather just injured it severely. I've known her for over a year, and I know she does have medical issues that could result in being put in the hospital. Do I know if she was? Not exactly, as I have a short attention span and at the time of the probable being put in the hospital I was having my first love waltz me around. So I can't always tell for sure what the heckie happened. But just because an account is all from the same IP doesn't mean diddly squat, especially since it was from her grandfather, which I know she lives with. They could use the same computer easily. Logic would point towards that, but I digress.
Morticia: Read above. Also. I know you have done nothing other than defend your friend. That's fine. Ace told me you defended Gina Hyena. However, the ways you may have done it could have caused unnecessary spite and added to the problem rather than fixed it. I saw how you interacted with Isis and it was far more hostile than necessary. Which is fine, I won't judge you for that. If you acted as hostile towards Ace, who is rather delicate to judgement as am I ( so please don't hate me for trying to fix issues I just want everyone to be happy don't kill me please ), you could've escalated the problem far beyond repair. I am here to make a simple treaty. I understand you may have lost all sight of Ace and stopped caring about her, but I am here just for the treaty to be agreed upon. She is unhappy and I am here to fix that while still remaining polite and unbiased. Which isn't entirely hard because my mom brought me up to not judge until I know both sides of the story.
Kwolf: Yeppy yep, got most of this above. I understand this was from long ago. I just want to wrap things up because it isn't with Ace. It never officially ended for her, so perhaps it can tonight? It would mean a lot to me (I know that doesn't matter because I'm a stranger and friends with her) if the lot of you could agree to the treaty and have this all end.
Trust me, this stresses me out a lot, too. I don't do well with social confrontation with strangers about a subject like this. And I'd rather not intervene, but at the same time I would. It would tie lose ends that will make everyone happier.
Okay? I'm on neither side and just want stress to die down with Ace, whether she's in the wrong or not. It's what friends do. Let me be a good friend by just agreeing to a treaty in a message I can screenshot and show to her and have her happy.
Thank you. (And I sincerely hope no one is mad at me.)
Mocha: I am a neutral party. Because I'm doing what I always do when something's not my business, I take the key information that I do know and attempt to put it into the conversation. I don't believe everything Ace says -- or what you guys say -- because there's literally no way to be sure any side is right or wrong unless I was there at the time of each individual crime and the spaces in between. Thus, I'm simply here to try to make peace and set Ace at ease. She's made herself a good friend of mine and she doesn't complain about you guys too often. It's more of like a passing thought where it's like "RUINED MY REP AND LIFE" and I'm sure we all get those where we think back to a time we didn't like and got upset. I came here in an attempt to make peace because Ace is upset and would like this all to disappear. I, being the hippie-and-peacemaker-and-bringer-of-justice of all my friend cliques have the habit of trying to make good on all the problems they've had in the past. She was talking about this because she found a 'spy" and I thought that peace needed to be made. Whether or not your party is in the right, or Ace's is, as I said before, is irrelevant. I am here to make peace. Ace wants the hate/parody art down, wants people to not spy on her, and wants all of this to go away. Is she still angry? Well... yeah, but that's because she considers you guys to have ruined her life and reputation, or rather just injured it severely. I've known her for over a year, and I know she does have medical issues that could result in being put in the hospital. Do I know if she was? Not exactly, as I have a short attention span and at the time of the probable being put in the hospital I was having my first love waltz me around. So I can't always tell for sure what the heckie happened. But just because an account is all from the same IP doesn't mean diddly squat, especially since it was from her grandfather, which I know she lives with. They could use the same computer easily. Logic would point towards that, but I digress.
Morticia: Read above. Also. I know you have done nothing other than defend your friend. That's fine. Ace told me you defended Gina Hyena. However, the ways you may have done it could have caused unnecessary spite and added to the problem rather than fixed it. I saw how you interacted with Isis and it was far more hostile than necessary. Which is fine, I won't judge you for that. If you acted as hostile towards Ace, who is rather delicate to judgement as am I ( so please don't hate me for trying to fix issues I just want everyone to be happy don't kill me please ), you could've escalated the problem far beyond repair. I am here to make a simple treaty. I understand you may have lost all sight of Ace and stopped caring about her, but I am here just for the treaty to be agreed upon. She is unhappy and I am here to fix that while still remaining polite and unbiased. Which isn't entirely hard because my mom brought me up to not judge until I know both sides of the story.
Kwolf: Yeppy yep, got most of this above. I understand this was from long ago. I just want to wrap things up because it isn't with Ace. It never officially ended for her, so perhaps it can tonight? It would mean a lot to me (I know that doesn't matter because I'm a stranger and friends with her) if the lot of you could agree to the treaty and have this all end.
Trust me, this stresses me out a lot, too. I don't do well with social confrontation with strangers about a subject like this. And I'd rather not intervene, but at the same time I would. It would tie lose ends that will make everyone happier.
Okay? I'm on neither side and just want stress to die down with Ace, whether she's in the wrong or not. It's what friends do. Let me be a good friend by just agreeing to a treaty in a message I can screenshot and show to her and have her happy.
Thank you. (And I sincerely hope no one is mad at me.)
It was not Gina who I initially defended, as I only became friends with Gina as a result of this whole debacle. It was another of our friends that had nothing to do with anything.
I will admit that a year ago I was very rude. Since then, I have been working hard to correct my behavior. I am quite hot-headed, quick to strike, and very intolerant of things I perceive as stupidity. I will be the first to admit it-- but after hitting a rough patch in my life I have grown up quite a bit.
I never didn't care about Ace. I found Ace to be a bit eccentric but pleasant in the short time we were friends. It was only after she went off the deep end with this (which, yes, I will admit in the beginning I was much more hostile than I should have been) but seriously... dragging this on for a YEAR?
Doesn't she have something better to do? :| I've since graduated college and have my own home and work two jobs. I don't have all kinds of time to just worry about what someone is saying about me behind my back, nor should I have to.
If Ace would like to speak to me, I am willing. I would be willing to sort things out with her, have a mutual apology, and perhaps try to rebuild a little. I don't think Ace is a bad person but I think she really has a bit of growing up to do.
I will admit that a year ago I was very rude. Since then, I have been working hard to correct my behavior. I am quite hot-headed, quick to strike, and very intolerant of things I perceive as stupidity. I will be the first to admit it-- but after hitting a rough patch in my life I have grown up quite a bit.
I never didn't care about Ace. I found Ace to be a bit eccentric but pleasant in the short time we were friends. It was only after she went off the deep end with this (which, yes, I will admit in the beginning I was much more hostile than I should have been) but seriously... dragging this on for a YEAR?
Doesn't she have something better to do? :| I've since graduated college and have my own home and work two jobs. I don't have all kinds of time to just worry about what someone is saying about me behind my back, nor should I have to.
If Ace would like to speak to me, I am willing. I would be willing to sort things out with her, have a mutual apology, and perhaps try to rebuild a little. I don't think Ace is a bad person but I think she really has a bit of growing up to do.
From what I know, she really doesn't have much more else to do than steam over past memories. All her friends have gone off to college or moved and she's just kinda left completely alone, discluding internet friends. I could ask her if she wants to talk, though on her side of the globe she'd be sleeping right now. Heck, I should be, but cookie clicker keeps me up.
She's said she actually wants to try to make-up with Gina and maybe become friends, because her impression of Gina was rude so Ace was rude. And Ace kinda sees that "hey, maybe Gina's not that bad" and wants to try to make friends. Maybe the same goes for you? I dunno.
She's said she actually wants to try to make-up with Gina and maybe become friends, because her impression of Gina was rude so Ace was rude. And Ace kinda sees that "hey, maybe Gina's not that bad" and wants to try to make friends. Maybe the same goes for you? I dunno.
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