A few things to cover here. If you don't read though this, don't blame me if you're not getting what you want.
Commission Types
As there wasn't a lot of typing room, I'll add a little more info here on what each of these pictures are (excluding the icons).
1) Lineart
- These are fast sketchy things that usually take me under a day to do. I hardly erase anything, there is no ink on it unless I did the base sketch in ink anyways, and although it is very unrefined I find these to be charming in their own regard. You may not agree, and that's ok. But if you want something fast with a rugged style, these are the way to go.
2) Inked
- After scribbling wildly on a page for a few minutes, I plop it into Photoshop and go over it with a fine point brush tool. All the lines are cleaned up, all the pencil is (usually) gone, and it's not half bad for something without shading. I can do traditional inked works as well, which are just cleaned up sketches that have had their contrast fixed digitally. Either way, it's not so sketchy and is usually quite nice.
3) Flat color
- A simple layer of color is plopped onto an inked (or not) work. There is no shading at all. Thus it can be done rather quickly (usually within a few hours of scanning). This is great for simple pinups or even just for fast scenes.
4) Light shading
- Here's where it starts getting long winded. Light shading is a fast easy scribble of the burn and dodge tools in Photoshop, pulling out little bits of light and shadow as I go. It can get away from me depending how much sugar I've had in the last 5 hours, and thus can range from a 2 minute shade job to a several day foray into the world of 'why did I choose 5 different light sources again?'
5) Full shading
- These are the biggies. An average piece, full shaded, takes me several hours to several days to do depending on the detail level. The biggest one I ever did took me over a month to shade fully, let alone draw and ink. Over 30 individual color layers are blended in Photoshop. But the after effect is damn nice. I enjoy these works a lot, even though I can usually only do one at a time.
6) Digital Charcoal
- A faux charcoal photoshop brush set that gives a traditional sketch look. I can get into some pretty impressive detail with these but they rarely look good in full color. Sometimes I will layer a light dusting of color on top that looks a little like pencil crayon. Yes, it costs more than a normal sketch but that is due to the intense amount of detailing and effort that goes into it. The more detailed you want it, the higher up this goes.
As you can see, there are different amounts of effort put into each one. And of course, as with many people, the more I enjoy the picture the more effort I'm likely to put into it. If I'm having fun with it, I tend to do a little extra for free, like adding some simple pencil shading to inked works.
So pick something that works for you :D
TOS
A few rules to lay down on you, should you consider throwing wallets at me for one reason or another.
1) I have a life.
Ok. So it's not MUCH of a life. But I do have a need to get out of the house more than once a year and an attention span that wavers at the slightest thing. As such, I can only draw when I have the energy to do so. This leaves me with only a couple days of the week when I actually CAN draw. Therefore don't expect your 4 part full color commission to be done within the day. There is the odd time when a caffeine and sleep deprivation induced mania has me putting out 5 pictures in one night, but I haven't had a night like that in ages. Small things I can generally finish in a day or less (schedule allowing) but bigger works sometimes take me a while to do. Please, be patient.
2) I at least TRY to do things in order.
When you commission me, your commission gets put into a que. Big images get done in the order that I get them, unless I am waiting for further information from someone in front of you in which case I may work on yours while I wait. Icons get done when I take breaks from big pictures as they are easier and faster to do. So if there was someone with a big multi part picture that got theirs in before yours, you may be waiting a while.
3) Payment.
Due to some issues in the past with people falling off the face of the earth after owing me for a piece, I now request money up front. I may waive this rule for regular customers who I know I can trust. Once payment has come through, then I will start on your commission. If you do not have the funds for me to start yet, I am willing to wait though, as life throws weird fastballs at people and I do understand that shit happens.
Side note:
Once something is done and posted and paid for, it's over. I do not offer refunds. Most of the money I earn goes straight into something so I rarely have the capability of giving refunds anyways.
4) I have a comfort zone.
It's not a very big comfort zone, as years of depravity and some really REALLY fucked up friends have etched away the edges of it, but it's still there and I would still like you to respect it. If I say no, I MEAN no.
I LOVE drawing pinups and artistic nudes. I get sick to my stomach drawing things like child porn, popping eyeballs, and shit everywhere. However, that's not to say I WON'T draw it.
It seems when people wave money at me, my morals take a vacation. However, if you really want something that I either suck at drawing (humans), take forever to draw (complicated backgrounds), or just generally hate drawing (scat, watersports, ect), I might charge an extra fee on your commission that I have recently taken to calling a....
5) Grievance Fee.
If you simply MUST have shitting dick nipples on your 2 year old hemi-cocked hyper diapered character, you can have it.... for a price. The more a picture disgusts me or complicates my life, the higher the cost will be on it. It's usually not more than an extra 5 or 10 bucks, depending, but I can easily imagine some picture subjects suddenly becoming inconvenient on your wallet. This is more to deter people from sucking the fun out of my art by making me sick, and partially so that I feel I have a reason to lower myself to drawing it in the first place. Money is always a great incentive to get people to do things they really don't want to do.
It's often easier (and cheaper) to simply pick something that I won't object blatantly to.
Note: This fee is non negotiable.
6) Halfway sketches.
I usually don't like to do these. A halfway sketch, or an approval sketch, is when you want to see how it's being put together before I'm done it. Sometimes if I am really unsure of what I'm doing (you didn't give a good reference, there's a lot of fine details that need to be there, and so on) I will offer up a halfway sketch voluntarily just to make sure I'm on the right track. But for the most part, I soldier on and what vomits out of my pen is what stays there.
If I DO offer you a halfway sketch and you don't choose to change anything, it's not my fault if you don't approve of the end result. You had your chance to change things.
6b) On The Topic Of Revisions
I am usually happy to do revisions for people. It's your picture, after all. You are paying for it. But when we get to the point where you are asking for a change every few minutes, I have to draw a line.
This insanity usually starts off along the lines of "this is perfect! i love it! But could you maybe change this one little....." and the next thing I know every square inch of the picture has been changed one stroke at a time. Dozens of versions have been saved and sent, littering my computer. I have dubbed these commissions "the million revisions of hell". It makes me hate looking at the picture after a while. I start to doubt every pen stroke I make and start rushing the picture just to avoid seeing it anymore.
If I notice that the revisions are starting to get out of hand, I will grant you a set amount of revision tickets. Once they are used up, that's it. I would rather not start hating your picture halfway through it.
7) My characters are MINE.
That's not to say that I won't draw them for you. Or even with you in some cases. However, there are some things I will not do to them. I hold out all rights to say no to anything involving my characters.
It never hurts to ask though. Really. Some days I just feel like abusing my own characters and this can work to your advantage if you only ask! :)
7b) Other people's characters are THEIRS.
I don't have rights to other people's characters. Neither do you. So if you want a commission including someone else' character, ask them first. I prefer if the person who's characters you're using sends me a note telling me that it's ok, but if a note is not sent I WILL double check permission so don't think you can lie to me. Your needs are not worth my ass. I'll protect me first.
8) Deadlines.
Some people may want a piece of art done up for a birthday or some other time related gift. These get priority. Non negotiable. If it must be done by a certain time, I will try my best to do it. If I cannot make it, I will let you know. At that point you can choose to accept the picture later, or decline my services altogether. I won't hold it against you.
It should be noted that if you're a total jackass to me, you'll get bumped back on my priority list. I don't cater to jerks.
9) Reposting.
You bought it, it's yours. They bought it, it's theirs unless they say it can be yours. Pretty simple.
Feel free to post artwork you got from me anywhere you'd like. You don't HAVE to link back to me but it would be nice. Also, please don't try to say that you did it. Nobody likes a credit thief.
10) I like to keep you happy.
Let's face it. From a business standpoint, a happy customer will often come back and give you more money. I for one, like money. A LOT. It keeps me fed, pays for my bad habits, and allows me to buy things I need to make more money like fabric and computer parts.
Therefore I will try to accommodate you as much as I can.
I have been known to give discounts on super easy things, put up the odd request, even grovel for forgiveness when my bipolar concentration slacks on a project and leaves me staring at the wall in an unproductive manner for a few days (it's happened before).
There are some things I'll accommodate readily (family emergencies delaying payments for example) and some I won't (changing details/ideas every other hour) and some I'll do depending on my mood at the time (oh! could you add this? or change this color?).
For the most part, I simply ask that you....
11) Show a little Common Sense.
It's not that much to ask, is it?
Be a decent person. Don't push it if I decline something. Have patience. Don't bend the rules. We want this transaction to go smoothly, don't we?
Any questions? Stuff I should add? Just ask! I'm fairly easy going, despite my bluntness. And I rarely bite....
hard. ;)
Commission Types
As there wasn't a lot of typing room, I'll add a little more info here on what each of these pictures are (excluding the icons).
1) Lineart
- These are fast sketchy things that usually take me under a day to do. I hardly erase anything, there is no ink on it unless I did the base sketch in ink anyways, and although it is very unrefined I find these to be charming in their own regard. You may not agree, and that's ok. But if you want something fast with a rugged style, these are the way to go.
2) Inked
- After scribbling wildly on a page for a few minutes, I plop it into Photoshop and go over it with a fine point brush tool. All the lines are cleaned up, all the pencil is (usually) gone, and it's not half bad for something without shading. I can do traditional inked works as well, which are just cleaned up sketches that have had their contrast fixed digitally. Either way, it's not so sketchy and is usually quite nice.
3) Flat color
- A simple layer of color is plopped onto an inked (or not) work. There is no shading at all. Thus it can be done rather quickly (usually within a few hours of scanning). This is great for simple pinups or even just for fast scenes.
4) Light shading
- Here's where it starts getting long winded. Light shading is a fast easy scribble of the burn and dodge tools in Photoshop, pulling out little bits of light and shadow as I go. It can get away from me depending how much sugar I've had in the last 5 hours, and thus can range from a 2 minute shade job to a several day foray into the world of 'why did I choose 5 different light sources again?'
5) Full shading
- These are the biggies. An average piece, full shaded, takes me several hours to several days to do depending on the detail level. The biggest one I ever did took me over a month to shade fully, let alone draw and ink. Over 30 individual color layers are blended in Photoshop. But the after effect is damn nice. I enjoy these works a lot, even though I can usually only do one at a time.
6) Digital Charcoal
- A faux charcoal photoshop brush set that gives a traditional sketch look. I can get into some pretty impressive detail with these but they rarely look good in full color. Sometimes I will layer a light dusting of color on top that looks a little like pencil crayon. Yes, it costs more than a normal sketch but that is due to the intense amount of detailing and effort that goes into it. The more detailed you want it, the higher up this goes.
As you can see, there are different amounts of effort put into each one. And of course, as with many people, the more I enjoy the picture the more effort I'm likely to put into it. If I'm having fun with it, I tend to do a little extra for free, like adding some simple pencil shading to inked works.
So pick something that works for you :D
TOS
A few rules to lay down on you, should you consider throwing wallets at me for one reason or another.
1) I have a life.
Ok. So it's not MUCH of a life. But I do have a need to get out of the house more than once a year and an attention span that wavers at the slightest thing. As such, I can only draw when I have the energy to do so. This leaves me with only a couple days of the week when I actually CAN draw. Therefore don't expect your 4 part full color commission to be done within the day. There is the odd time when a caffeine and sleep deprivation induced mania has me putting out 5 pictures in one night, but I haven't had a night like that in ages. Small things I can generally finish in a day or less (schedule allowing) but bigger works sometimes take me a while to do. Please, be patient.
2) I at least TRY to do things in order.
When you commission me, your commission gets put into a que. Big images get done in the order that I get them, unless I am waiting for further information from someone in front of you in which case I may work on yours while I wait. Icons get done when I take breaks from big pictures as they are easier and faster to do. So if there was someone with a big multi part picture that got theirs in before yours, you may be waiting a while.
3) Payment.
Due to some issues in the past with people falling off the face of the earth after owing me for a piece, I now request money up front. I may waive this rule for regular customers who I know I can trust. Once payment has come through, then I will start on your commission. If you do not have the funds for me to start yet, I am willing to wait though, as life throws weird fastballs at people and I do understand that shit happens.
Side note:
Once something is done and posted and paid for, it's over. I do not offer refunds. Most of the money I earn goes straight into something so I rarely have the capability of giving refunds anyways.
4) I have a comfort zone.
It's not a very big comfort zone, as years of depravity and some really REALLY fucked up friends have etched away the edges of it, but it's still there and I would still like you to respect it. If I say no, I MEAN no.
I LOVE drawing pinups and artistic nudes. I get sick to my stomach drawing things like child porn, popping eyeballs, and shit everywhere. However, that's not to say I WON'T draw it.
It seems when people wave money at me, my morals take a vacation. However, if you really want something that I either suck at drawing (humans), take forever to draw (complicated backgrounds), or just generally hate drawing (scat, watersports, ect), I might charge an extra fee on your commission that I have recently taken to calling a....
5) Grievance Fee.
If you simply MUST have shitting dick nipples on your 2 year old hemi-cocked hyper diapered character, you can have it.... for a price. The more a picture disgusts me or complicates my life, the higher the cost will be on it. It's usually not more than an extra 5 or 10 bucks, depending, but I can easily imagine some picture subjects suddenly becoming inconvenient on your wallet. This is more to deter people from sucking the fun out of my art by making me sick, and partially so that I feel I have a reason to lower myself to drawing it in the first place. Money is always a great incentive to get people to do things they really don't want to do.
It's often easier (and cheaper) to simply pick something that I won't object blatantly to.
Note: This fee is non negotiable.
6) Halfway sketches.
I usually don't like to do these. A halfway sketch, or an approval sketch, is when you want to see how it's being put together before I'm done it. Sometimes if I am really unsure of what I'm doing (you didn't give a good reference, there's a lot of fine details that need to be there, and so on) I will offer up a halfway sketch voluntarily just to make sure I'm on the right track. But for the most part, I soldier on and what vomits out of my pen is what stays there.
If I DO offer you a halfway sketch and you don't choose to change anything, it's not my fault if you don't approve of the end result. You had your chance to change things.
6b) On The Topic Of Revisions
I am usually happy to do revisions for people. It's your picture, after all. You are paying for it. But when we get to the point where you are asking for a change every few minutes, I have to draw a line.
This insanity usually starts off along the lines of "this is perfect! i love it! But could you maybe change this one little....." and the next thing I know every square inch of the picture has been changed one stroke at a time. Dozens of versions have been saved and sent, littering my computer. I have dubbed these commissions "the million revisions of hell". It makes me hate looking at the picture after a while. I start to doubt every pen stroke I make and start rushing the picture just to avoid seeing it anymore.
If I notice that the revisions are starting to get out of hand, I will grant you a set amount of revision tickets. Once they are used up, that's it. I would rather not start hating your picture halfway through it.
7) My characters are MINE.
That's not to say that I won't draw them for you. Or even with you in some cases. However, there are some things I will not do to them. I hold out all rights to say no to anything involving my characters.
It never hurts to ask though. Really. Some days I just feel like abusing my own characters and this can work to your advantage if you only ask! :)
7b) Other people's characters are THEIRS.
I don't have rights to other people's characters. Neither do you. So if you want a commission including someone else' character, ask them first. I prefer if the person who's characters you're using sends me a note telling me that it's ok, but if a note is not sent I WILL double check permission so don't think you can lie to me. Your needs are not worth my ass. I'll protect me first.
8) Deadlines.
Some people may want a piece of art done up for a birthday or some other time related gift. These get priority. Non negotiable. If it must be done by a certain time, I will try my best to do it. If I cannot make it, I will let you know. At that point you can choose to accept the picture later, or decline my services altogether. I won't hold it against you.
It should be noted that if you're a total jackass to me, you'll get bumped back on my priority list. I don't cater to jerks.
9) Reposting.
You bought it, it's yours. They bought it, it's theirs unless they say it can be yours. Pretty simple.
Feel free to post artwork you got from me anywhere you'd like. You don't HAVE to link back to me but it would be nice. Also, please don't try to say that you did it. Nobody likes a credit thief.
10) I like to keep you happy.
Let's face it. From a business standpoint, a happy customer will often come back and give you more money. I for one, like money. A LOT. It keeps me fed, pays for my bad habits, and allows me to buy things I need to make more money like fabric and computer parts.
Therefore I will try to accommodate you as much as I can.
I have been known to give discounts on super easy things, put up the odd request, even grovel for forgiveness when my bipolar concentration slacks on a project and leaves me staring at the wall in an unproductive manner for a few days (it's happened before).
There are some things I'll accommodate readily (family emergencies delaying payments for example) and some I won't (changing details/ideas every other hour) and some I'll do depending on my mood at the time (oh! could you add this? or change this color?).
For the most part, I simply ask that you....
11) Show a little Common Sense.
It's not that much to ask, is it?
Be a decent person. Don't push it if I decline something. Have patience. Don't bend the rules. We want this transaction to go smoothly, don't we?
Any questions? Stuff I should add? Just ask! I'm fairly easy going, despite my bluntness. And I rarely bite....
hard. ;)
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I dislike it when they call their unreasonable prices a "supply and demand" thing. I've seen it before and it makes no sense to me. People want it really bad so I'll rip them off for it :D
I do however understand when the artists lives solely off their art for income but by that point the art is usually worth it or done really well in traditional media.
I do however understand when the artists lives solely off their art for income but by that point the art is usually worth it or done really well in traditional media.
I like the art and the prices seem reasonable for what you offer. I would personally be a tad concerned with the consistency of your work at the moment but with practice it will develop and hopefully flourish. At that point you could definitely raise prices. Also do you have a TOS? If not I suggest reading other artists TOS' and writing up your own based on what you read. It helps reduce commissioner headaches when people get less than friendly about the commissioned piece.
If you wonder what I mean by consistency it's pretty much your art is good (full shading is amazing in fact) but the light shading piece looks out of place an somewhat under par compared to the rest of the sheet. Also the pony icon looks good body wise but the neck and head could use some work as it seems too straight up if you know what I mean. It just looks bad on an artist when their work doesn't look consistent. Commissioners want to know what to expect.
Also on a separate note I'm not sure that the "morbid swing" icon is actually acceptable as an icon for actual use on the site. The avatar policy doesn't specifically state bans against implied suicide/snuff but I don't think that personally would be work safe. Perhaps for credibility reasons you shouldn't offer that however it is up to you. Here's a link to the avatar policy guidelines for you to read yourself.
http://help.furaffinity.net/article.....uidelines.html
As for a final note. I guess some of this fall under artistic constructive criticism which you technically didn't ask for. If you feel offended by this please let me know and I'll hide the comment.
If you wonder what I mean by consistency it's pretty much your art is good (full shading is amazing in fact) but the light shading piece looks out of place an somewhat under par compared to the rest of the sheet. Also the pony icon looks good body wise but the neck and head could use some work as it seems too straight up if you know what I mean. It just looks bad on an artist when their work doesn't look consistent. Commissioners want to know what to expect.
Also on a separate note I'm not sure that the "morbid swing" icon is actually acceptable as an icon for actual use on the site. The avatar policy doesn't specifically state bans against implied suicide/snuff but I don't think that personally would be work safe. Perhaps for credibility reasons you shouldn't offer that however it is up to you. Here's a link to the avatar policy guidelines for you to read yourself.
http://help.furaffinity.net/article.....uidelines.html
As for a final note. I guess some of this fall under artistic constructive criticism which you technically didn't ask for. If you feel offended by this please let me know and I'll hide the comment.
the light shading is just a fast burn/dodge thing, just enough to give an idea. I could just as easily do cell shading which would probably look better, but i see where you're coming from. All too often my shading seems to loose its light source for no apparent reason lol
for the pony icon, youll have to blame the artists of MLP because my first icon was a direct draft off their outlines. I may fiddle with it a bit though as ive never been too happy with it. Thankfully not many people are interested in that one right now <_<''
I looked into the policy and people have already been using the swing icon without issue. ive made a few dozen of them for various people, and ive seen some out there that are far worse. The fact that the icon doesnt actually show anything helps. for all anyone knows, they could be swaying on a jungle gym just out of view lol
but if i mod makes a stink about it, ill back down. :)
i do like constructive criticism, especially when its done with a decent IQ range as you have done here. It helps to actually have thoughts explained rather than people just whining without any elaboration, ya know?
I should look into TOS's ov various people though. I hadnt considered that. I do plan on being rather in depth with my explanation of grievance fees since its a little confusing.
for the pony icon, youll have to blame the artists of MLP because my first icon was a direct draft off their outlines. I may fiddle with it a bit though as ive never been too happy with it. Thankfully not many people are interested in that one right now <_<''
I looked into the policy and people have already been using the swing icon without issue. ive made a few dozen of them for various people, and ive seen some out there that are far worse. The fact that the icon doesnt actually show anything helps. for all anyone knows, they could be swaying on a jungle gym just out of view lol
but if i mod makes a stink about it, ill back down. :)
i do like constructive criticism, especially when its done with a decent IQ range as you have done here. It helps to actually have thoughts explained rather than people just whining without any elaboration, ya know?
I should look into TOS's ov various people though. I hadnt considered that. I do plan on being rather in depth with my explanation of grievance fees since its a little confusing.
Glad to hear, and yes I do know about people who have no reason nor ground to complain that's why I made sure it didn't sound offensive. I very much dislike when people do that to me as well.
I really find reading other TOS' is a huge help when writing your own. It's something you can back yourself up with when people make a stink and other artists could point out something you may not have thought of but could potentially be a huge problem. I'm writing up one for myself when I open my own commissions. ^_^
I really find reading other TOS' is a huge help when writing your own. It's something you can back yourself up with when people make a stink and other artists could point out something you may not have thought of but could potentially be a huge problem. I'm writing up one for myself when I open my own commissions. ^_^
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3504437/
I must say ruby has a good concise one as well as
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3050052/
luthien_nightwolf
and caltroplay
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1085663/
clear, concise, effective. Keeping it shorter also helps to not scare off potential customers ^_^
I must say ruby has a good concise one as well as
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3050052/
luthien_nightwolf
and caltroplay
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1085663/
clear, concise, effective. Keeping it shorter also helps to not scare off potential customers ^_^
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