*raises paw* can that someone handing his ass to him be me? *Grins* you and I both know how big /I/ can get

*Smirk.* Well, he can't really brag about being the best when he's not. Good thing someone put him in his place; glad it was you, too, hon.

Don't know how a pic puts someone in their place when all its doin is expressing the artist's opinion on the matter.

Don't know why you're taking this so seriously. Someone seems mad.

I wonder how I look mad, please elaborate for me.

I don't know why else someone would get in a matter like this? It just makes no sense to me.

Its a public conversation, anyone can join in on the fun and mingle, share an opinion, and such.

I'm only here cuz I know these two, I'm also here cause of the DRAMA.

Well first of all, it's Legend Inflator... And second, It's not something that I brag about! ^^; it's just a title that I use like Randy Orton does when he called himself the Legend Killer, where he ends people careers, whereas I, as the "Legend Inflator", makes it my goal to inflate everyone I can get to, OCs or Copyrighted characters and such, just for fun and all! It's called a gimmick, so I made one for myself cause I'm a fan of the WWE and all! XD

Although I do have to admit, most of my friends sometimes make the mistake of calling me legendary instead of Legend like it was supposed to be...but I'm not legendary, I'm just a plain old artist with a love for inflation fetishes and such! X3

Sorry if it seems like it was annoying ya and all...

It’s not just annoying him. It’s annoying most of the people that see your page.

The difference between you and Orton is that he’s actually got a career and has done –work- to achieve his title. He –has- stopped people’s careers, staged or not. You have done no work but tack the name onto yourself, and it –is- egotistical, and you know it. You know because you’ve been doing it for years, so pleading ignorant to it is unacceptable.

You also don't know the meaning of the word "gimmick". A Gimmick is a trick, a falsehood, a front. A gimmick is a trick meant to lead other people into thinking that it is true, which is actually exactly what you're doing. You're putting yourself up on a high pedistal so that everyone thinks you're important- And most of us on the net here actually have logs of you doing this, even from past journals on FA you've posted.

You know the problem. You’re not fixing it on purpose.

*sighs* You can say whatever you want about me...I simply don't care anymore...I'm sick and tired of everyone calling me annoying, I'm sick and tired of people talking crap behind my back, and I'm sick and tired of people like you thinking that I'm above people or I'm important, when CLEARLY, there are PLENTY of more important people than me, even better than me! Take a look at Oz, take a look at Blue, take a look at even James Barker, or Kbryme, along with every other goddamn artists that are clearly better than me! You know what? Now I don't want to be called "Legend Inflator" anymore, cause if that title is gonna to have people like you handing my ass to me like Yin warned me about, then I don't want it anymore!

I'm sick and tired of this...I'm sick of you, I'm sick of James Barker, I'm sick of KB, I'm sick of EVERY assholes who think I'm nothing more than scum, that thinks they can walk all over me, just because they can or if they feel like it!

Maybe it's true, maybe I tricked them into thinking that my whole Legend Inflator gimmick was true and all, but it works didn't it? Cause now, I get constant requests from friends and others, Most of them want to have a chat or RP with me, and hell, even trolls want to say bad things about me on that stupid ED site or the streams that Shane told me about... fact of the matter is, I'm kinda like John Cena now, loved and hated by all...so you and many of the others who finds me annoying can say whatever you want, it's not gonna stop me, it's not going to stop me from drawing...

I'm done talking with you, I'm done with all of those people that find me annoying and such, so you can all just go to hell, plain and simple...

See below. Nice reaction.

Does it looking like I fucking care?!

No, which is the root of the problem to begin with.

A fine acute statement from the peanut gallery...*rolls his eyes*

Seems you'll never change. Never improve. Never stop being obnoxious. And you seem perfectly comfortable relaxing in your delusion of grandeur, emphasis on the delusional bit.
The title of artist asks for gradual and continuous improvement upon one's art. And all you have to give are excuses. Mountains of them. People who attempt to help are labelled trolls, those with constructive criticism are ignored in favor of your fanbase (Who honestly wouldn't care if you drew circles, as long as they were their circles). And the last time I attempted to help you, you deflected and immediately jumped onto my own struggle with the visual medium.
Have you ever stopped to think why so many people are displeased with the way you are? The way you act? Actually, let me answer that for you. You do, but you immediately jump to the concept of them being wrong. Everybody's wrong but you. Because clearly you know best.

My artworks will improve, but not my attitude, yes! Now I think I got it all figured out, it was never my works, it was about my actions and attitude, wasn't it?

One begets the other. By accepting that your views on things, and how you present yourself requires work, you can realize where you're going wrong in the visual media.

*Sighs* Somehow you're right...for one thing, I need to control my temper...

Honestly your art hasn't improved in years.

But yes, it's all about your attitude and how rotten it is.

You are a man sitting behind a computer like the rest of us.

You drop names that you do not even bother to get to know. The people you name wouldn't come to your defense- or they'd be here right now. And no, your gimmick didn't work, because none of the people around that I know have ever believed you were more than an egotistical man behind a computer screen.

We're also not talking about anyone here other than you. So you can stop naming people other than yourself, Chris.

You are nothing like John Cena, a man who has also worked and been in a business, has earned his keep, whether wrestling is staged or not.

We don't think you're above anyone. You do, and you constantly repeat this fact.

If you don't want us to call you annoying, or call you any of the things people -have- been calling you, or have been citing as how you act? Then maybe you shouldn't act like it. We don't randomly make up opinions about you. Your actions beget our views of you.

Fine then, you know what? It like I said, you can say whatever you fucking want to say...

AND OF COURSE no one comes to my defense, you think they actually gives a damn about me personally? NO! They rather I get trolled or have my ass handed to me before they even THINK of caring!

And maybe I'm nothing like John Cena, but at least, the only similarity that we have that we are loved and hated, that's it...

And you called me annoying again...heh, like I said, I don't care what you or the others say anymore...

If you didn't care, you wouldn't be replying to these comments. No amount of capitals or elipses will change that.

True, but I rather hear what else you have to say though...

Which... means, you care.

Nope, it just means you're gonna keep talking til eventually your talking end up being just as much as annoying as I am, HAH!

Maybe if I didn't misspell every other word.

Well nobody's perfect, we are fricking humans, not gods after all...

There are courses in Elementary and High School (Grades Kindergarten through 12th) That offer courses in fully learning the English language and how it evolves. If typing English with proper spelling and grammar makes one a god, then on this earth walk several gods.

THIS.

I get the sarcasm...don't be a prick about it.

Point is, Shane told me I needed to resolve this myself, so I'm doing this my way, by telling you to shut up and stop commenting me and my annoying ways! if you find me so annoying, why bother commenting me in the first place anyway?

Because I never told you that I find you annoying. That has been your assumption.

I find you egotistical. I also find you brash, abrasive, and generally a menace.

That above also wasn't sarcasm.

Also, above you'd stated that you're doing this yourself, and that noone had talked to you about this or was coming to your defense. Shane, you now say, obviously had but said that he wasn't going to fight a battle for you.

It's lovely to know just how quickly you abandon your friends.

Shane is different... don't you ever talk about him, he and I went through tough times ourselves...but we ended up becoming friends again...

And I didn't abandon them, I simply stated that they won't come into my defense, inculding shane, and I can understand that since they don't want to be invovled. But there some friends out there that won't care for me, that much I know...

Shane was only trying to give me advice, to try to calm me down cause he knows I have a very short temper, and how I can easily hurt people feelings in an instant by doing the most simplest things...

Like for example, the two private pics I posted of Lily and Lito, who are no longer my friends and won't be for a very long time...it really hurt them cause they trusted me to keep those pics private from the others, and cause Lito pissed me off, I posted them out of anger...

So you see, all the nasty things I've said to you just before, was all out of pure anger, but now a little bit calm...a lil angry but still calm a bit...

And BTW, if I'm brash, abrasive, and a menace, even egoistical, then maybe that's just me being me...it's better than to be someone you're not, right?

It's better to acknowledge the things about yourself. There's also something a person can do, and that's called change. For several years it hasn't happened to you, and you've repeated the same mistakes over and over. You never learn. You won't change.

No I have changed a bit. if I didn't change, I would haven't gotten Shane back as a friend after everything that happened years ago, that's a fact, so I have changed a bit...

oh sweet mother of drama trainwreck

What is it you do to make all of this okay to you. When I act this stupid it physically hurts me.

Simple, I just look on the bright side, unlike some people...

The bright side blinds you to what you're actually doing.

Whatever...but I know one thing, at least I get treated better on DA than in this piece of shit of a site...

Oh, don't worry. I have a DA too.

*WINNING COMMENT*

Someone, give me some popcorn. I'm going to need all of the stuff I can get, yo.

Seriously, though? Your resistance to change and self-improvement amuses me, in much the same way a small animal constantly making the exact same mistake over and over again without learning does. Amusing, but at the same time I'm not sure whether to respond with true amusement, pity or contempt.

Acknowledging your mistakes is good, but it's only half the work. And excusing away the need for improvement (which is most certainly there, given just how incessantly egocentric you are) with 'it's better than being someone you're not' is just outright bollocks. People change. Not only is this a given, this is -excpected-. If people were films, you'd be a static picture made over three years ago since through all the time I've seen you on this site, you have not changed even in the slightest.

If you are so aware that your attitude is what drives most people away from you, why do you so stalwartly refuse to do anything about it? Why do you keep ignoring any criticism you get in favour of only paying attention to your fanclub who unconditionally likes you even if you were to literally come over to their homes just to shit on their doorstep? And most of all, why do you keep acting as if you're one of the best artists on this site? After all, anger and rash decisions still don't explain complete egocentrism.

But that's just my £0.02, I suppose.

Cause it's hopeless! Even if I do change my attitude, that still won't change their opinions of me! Besides, there's still my short temper control problem as well...

And I do accept criticism, but only if the kind of criticism like "Oh I think you should improve on the arms a bit more." Or "You forgot the tail." and such, not criticism like "You fucking ass, that not how she's supposed to look like!" or "Your artstyle sucks, you should improve under a rock or something..." And mostly I have gotten nasty kind of criticism and very VERY few decent criticism from the others, which is why most of the time, I get pissed off easily...

And I do have a ego, yes, but the truth is, I don't consider myself the best, maybe great, but certainly not the best, not like Michelangelo, or Da Vinci, along many great artists out there on here and on DA that are clearly better than me!

But of course, that don't mean shit to you, does it? You only want to put me down even more....

Holy drama, Batman!

And yeah, from what I've seen first hand, you really don't accept any criticism, which is a huge part of the problem. You've taken basically anything anything anyone has to say about your art as a personal attack on you.

But I did lol at how you mentioned you didn't think you're as good as the man who painted the interior of the Sistine Chapel.

Then what if I started accepting crictism and not trying to think of it as a personal attack on me? Would that help me improve then?

I... am rarely active on this site. But I do take a glance on it from time to time.
I've seen Tofer's account being formed and I never found the name "Legend Inflator" annoying, simply because I never read it as "Legendary Inflator", which would sound overly proud, I guess. Since the beginning of his existence here, I always understood that he's a fur, who likes to inflate legendary furries. That's it. No subliminal messages. No suggestions about being legendary.
What always left me in awe, is that every other person complained about that user being boastful and calling himself legendary. It posed a question to myself: "can those people read?" I suppose that I would also be aggravated by such hasty and shallow interpretations (and here I can sympathise woth Tofer). BUT...
Tofer's reactions to abuse, critic, mild suggestions and simple doubts was >horrible<. I rarely see a person forming such long sentences in a single intention of offending someone. Not to mention how shallow the offences, that Tofer produces, where. And the typos he's making - a very special kind of typos: letters missing in words, not just grammar mistakes. This means, that he was so furious at the moment of typing, that he was missing the buttons on the keyboard. It means that he was in such great hurry to respond that he didn't take his time to re-read a comment and fix the typos. Alas...
I believe that every older user of this site knows and understands that kind of behaviour. The behaviour of a person who has much more energy and will to act then they actually have an idea about how to act. We've been there. We grew out of it. It's an obligatory stage and it's length and strength differs from person to person.
The thing is: I see Tofer talking with more sense than he did before (let's say a year before). His changing. The community's perception of him isn't.

Besides. Tofers response to Darcell's animation isn't at all hateful. I'd risk saying that Tofer took less offence on Darcell's animation than Darcell took on Tofer's responce.

I suggest you give Tofer a little bit more time and then reset your approach to him. See what happens.

You're a few months late, pal. Zero fucks.

Mm. If you scrolled through all of the comments, you'd see that a lot of people were tired of it.

Got a right to, I suppose.

I've already stated my business to you several times on this. So have a large amount of other people.
Whether you choose to listen or not is a rather accurate gauge of personality and character.

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You're not the only one.

Christ, what a bunch of drama over something that doesn't exist. Can't remember the last time I saw anyone stick an airpump in another person and inflate them for giggles, so maybe you should both calm down about it until it becomes a legitimate thing.

Dude, it's a furry website. Not quite sure what you're expecting.

No wonder I rarely visit.

Naw, they about right, whining over the small stuff, that's all I see.

As you say in another comment you're here *because* of the drama...

That's just what drama is.

Some people don't learn *shrugs*

*shrugs* one of the reasons I stopped drawing I guess :/

Not trying to induce any more drama, but I personally think that constructive criticism is always welcome (well for me anyway). On a bit of a side note, I have never been great at drawing, although I can color decently. Although I feel that with enough practice, I (as well as other people that try) will get at least a bit better. I don't want to point blame to anyone here, but it seems like both sides are a bit guilty.

On one paw, Tofer, from reading his comments, seemed to have had a rough past (As have I actually, but that is besides the point). In that sense, I kind of sympathize with him.

On the other paw, the whole "legend inflator" thing, I wouldn't necessarily call it egotistical, but it seems unnecessary (for lack of a better term). He didn't really "earn" it, as other people have said, but does it really matter? It's his own personal decision, and people can just ignore it.

*Now waits to see what kind of negative feedback this comment gets, if any*