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cougr's artwork (original lines here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8067167/) , I just added shading and highlights to what was already a great base of flat colours and phenomenal lines. And it was so much fun!!!!!
This is Trina, his kitty character from I'd reckon a long way back that I just love. I love her design, her concept, and most of all THAT HAIR! After the fact I can see how it looks like it's on fire, but we all know that she may be hot but she's not flammable.
Coloured in SAI and some bits in Photoshop.
cougr's artwork (original lines here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8067167/) , I just added shading and highlights to what was already a great base of flat colours and phenomenal lines. And it was so much fun!!!!!This is Trina, his kitty character from I'd reckon a long way back that I just love. I love her design, her concept, and most of all THAT HAIR! After the fact I can see how it looks like it's on fire, but we all know that she may be hot but she's not flammable.
Coloured in SAI and some bits in Photoshop.
Category Artwork (Digital) / General Furry Art
Species Housecat
Size 800 x 1035px
File Size 445.5 kB
I must be gay. The first things I noticed were "Those are desert Eagle 50's. ... Well, stylized. And Ouch, her wrists are gonna get snapped in half if she keeps firing with her arms bent like that... Oh, and boobs. At least Cougr knows how a damned slide action works, in any case."
Amen, brother. I'm a gun geek, and it's good to see someone who knows how these guns work, and can actually draw a recognizable gun instead of a vague shape with a trigger on it.
For more realism, the guns would need to be fully extended, and the one just fired would be tilted upwards and back quite a bit, since the .50 is a VERY heavy recoiling cartridge. Youtube videos abound of slight young ladies with two hands but a weak grip getting whacked in the face by the gun coming back at 'em.
For more realism, the guns would need to be fully extended, and the one just fired would be tilted upwards and back quite a bit, since the .50 is a VERY heavy recoiling cartridge. Youtube videos abound of slight young ladies with two hands but a weak grip getting whacked in the face by the gun coming back at 'em.
While I do enjoy guns myself, I do find it a little eye-twitchy when the inevitable barrage of gun enthusiast commentary on incorrect stances, positions, holds, or even accidentally calling a mag a clip, or trying to "inform" folks of the physics involved starts to ramp up. I know you guys might not be aware, but I think cougr has an extremely good grasp of what a gun REALLY does, but when it came to an action pic I don't believe he (or I, since I would have said something on it) cared about those kinds of details.
I mean I do share the excitement but to some of us, me anyway, it feels really condescending. =-0
I mean I do share the excitement but to some of us, me anyway, it feels really condescending. =-0
Yeah, there's a time and a place for gun-geekery, and there's also a certain degree of artistic license that can be taken with it. I may think that dual-wielding pistols makes it impossible to aim either of them properly, or even reload, but dang, does it look cool, right?
If I had any artistic talent and I were to draw a guy on a motorcycle, I'd be kinda offended if so-and-so said my art was crap because I drew the catalytic converter wrong, and those mufflers are WAY too small to be practical, and the fender angle is all off, etc... On the other hand, I think it does fall upon the artist to look up a reference pic or something and have enough attention to detail that what they're drawing is recognizable for what it is and is at least plausible in real life. This would be an example of "good" gun art, IMO, since the guns are drawn accurately, and are even shown functioning as they would in real life, with artistic license taken with posture and recoil control to make it look good. It may make me roll my eyes a little bit inside, but no more so than watching the Matrix, which is a GREAT movie with some supremely impractical gunfights.
If I had any artistic talent and I were to draw a guy on a motorcycle, I'd be kinda offended if so-and-so said my art was crap because I drew the catalytic converter wrong, and those mufflers are WAY too small to be practical, and the fender angle is all off, etc... On the other hand, I think it does fall upon the artist to look up a reference pic or something and have enough attention to detail that what they're drawing is recognizable for what it is and is at least plausible in real life. This would be an example of "good" gun art, IMO, since the guns are drawn accurately, and are even shown functioning as they would in real life, with artistic license taken with posture and recoil control to make it look good. It may make me roll my eyes a little bit inside, but no more so than watching the Matrix, which is a GREAT movie with some supremely impractical gunfights.
Yeah, that's about how it goes. I've gone to the gun range with friends, and we even experimented with two high caliber pistols, just to say we did it, and fired them at the same time Lara Croft style. Hitting something was far from the main concern compared to just trying to maintain the firing and just keeping the barrels aimed down range.
Heh believe me I've hung around gun geeks, and gun smiths and all that. ^^
You're right in that if you're going to draw something draw it "right", but then I think that passion about the subject matter and access to PROPER references isn't something easy to come by when it comes to some guns unless you do study and break down the components, and I think a lot of gun geeks expect this and far too much. For instance, this picture: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7274169/ I compared references to the real flintlocks, and in all honesty if I hadn't had the real pistols that image would be far worse than it is. Ref pics did not do the gun justice, and some of it's components were very hard for me to make out from just looking. I can't tell you how stressful it is knowing full well that a pic I have with a gun in it is being held to a different standard of criticism and can potentially become the full focus for some folks instead of looking at the picture as a whole. That's the only reason I had to say something, cuz it happens a LOT and is more often than not the one thing what makes or breaks a pic to some folks. And I find that to be very odd. o_O
Heh believe me I've hung around gun geeks, and gun smiths and all that. ^^
You're right in that if you're going to draw something draw it "right", but then I think that passion about the subject matter and access to PROPER references isn't something easy to come by when it comes to some guns unless you do study and break down the components, and I think a lot of gun geeks expect this and far too much. For instance, this picture: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7274169/ I compared references to the real flintlocks, and in all honesty if I hadn't had the real pistols that image would be far worse than it is. Ref pics did not do the gun justice, and some of it's components were very hard for me to make out from just looking. I can't tell you how stressful it is knowing full well that a pic I have with a gun in it is being held to a different standard of criticism and can potentially become the full focus for some folks instead of looking at the picture as a whole. That's the only reason I had to say something, cuz it happens a LOT and is more often than not the one thing what makes or breaks a pic to some folks. And I find that to be very odd. o_O
It's a matter of hobbies and passion. If you're a gun guy, you tend to notice these things, just like someone who reads a lot will grit their teeth if someone messes up there/they're/their or something like that. Magazine vs clip is very akin to using "irregardless" in front of a grammar nazi. I think it has something to do with the fact that gun owners do their own maintenance, and therefore are very familiar with the operation of their firearm, unlike most car owners or computer users. It's hard to shoot a gun for long without taking it apart to clean it, after all.
BTW, the pic you shared was dead on with the guns, and sexy, besides. Very "Pirates of the Caribbean," if you ask me.
BTW, the pic you shared was dead on with the guns, and sexy, besides. Very "Pirates of the Caribbean," if you ask me.
Oh, and I'd hardly consider someone who can't draw a gun right to be a terrible artist because of it, just someone that could use a little education on the subject of firearms, which I'm always happy to provide. If I know of an artist or writer who is uncertain of their ability to portray a gun correctly, I'm always eager to give advice and share links. The furry fandom and guns are my two hobbies, and of the two, guns are the only one I can talk about in public very often. After all, small-town Iowans are cool with guns. Furries? Not so much.
I have to weigh in on this.
It always amazes me how gun geeks will get into a tizzy about minute details of a drawn weapon's use, but they're perfectly fine with the idea of them being wielded by a six-foot tall, well-endowed, super-humanly strong cat girl.
Trina, in this incarnation, is a genetically created killing machine. She is inhumanly fast, strong and tough. Those two-pound guns weigh -nothing- to her. The recoil is nearly meaningless to her.
Besides, I'm not going to ultimate accuracy. The guns are props for the action of the picture. They're only barely drawn accurately. Take a photo of a real gun and compare it to what I've drawn and you'll find hordes of inaccuracies.
It's freakin' fantasy from top to bottom. If your belief suspenders don't snap from the idea of a big, voluptuous cat lady running around with guns, leaping away from explosions, they shouldn't strangle you because the handling of the fantasy pistols doesn't fit in with the experience of how you handle them.
Ye Gods.
It always amazes me how gun geeks will get into a tizzy about minute details of a drawn weapon's use, but they're perfectly fine with the idea of them being wielded by a six-foot tall, well-endowed, super-humanly strong cat girl.
Trina, in this incarnation, is a genetically created killing machine. She is inhumanly fast, strong and tough. Those two-pound guns weigh -nothing- to her. The recoil is nearly meaningless to her.
Besides, I'm not going to ultimate accuracy. The guns are props for the action of the picture. They're only barely drawn accurately. Take a photo of a real gun and compare it to what I've drawn and you'll find hordes of inaccuracies.
It's freakin' fantasy from top to bottom. If your belief suspenders don't snap from the idea of a big, voluptuous cat lady running around with guns, leaping away from explosions, they shouldn't strangle you because the handling of the fantasy pistols doesn't fit in with the experience of how you handle them.
Ye Gods.
If they were fantasy pistols, I'd agree with you, but they're pretty clearly Desert Eagles. My point of view is, if you're going to draw a recognizable gun, you should draw it as accurately as you can. If I'm gonna put "Harley Davidson" on a motorcycle I draw, I'm gonna make sure it looks like the model of Harley I'm trying to portray.
That said, the stance and grip and such is artistic license, and I don't think it's a problem that you drew them like you did. Like I said, it may be impractical, but it's art, and fantasy art, at that.
That said, the stance and grip and such is artistic license, and I don't think it's a problem that you drew them like you did. Like I said, it may be impractical, but it's art, and fantasy art, at that.
I think Ken is more or less hitting on the idea that a lot of gun-nuts can get pretty nutty about guns in a pic and for the most part allow it to ruin a picture for them. It makes or breaks it for them. I think in the case of SHOWCASING a gun, accuracy indeed. If the gun is the focus or if it's a picture OF a gun, alrighty then! But in the matter of just applying one to a character in a scene, leeway needs to be given and understood. I can draw a shoe as good as the next person. But when I'm drawing a character in action or possibly further away, details get muddy and it becomes an INDICATION of a shoe rather than drawing it fully with all the details. And gun enthusiasts are really unforgiving, at least in my experience. And apparently in cougr's as well. ^____^
But you guys talking here so far show you do understand the fantasy requirement, but we're just solidifying our own stance with a fantasy bias. ^_^
But you guys talking here so far show you do understand the fantasy requirement, but we're just solidifying our own stance with a fantasy bias. ^_^
<gungeek>The .22WMR is designed for a rifle, and you really lose a lot of the velocity advantage of it from a pistol-length barrel. You get CCI Stinger performance and a huge muzzle blast. It's a neat range toy, but not on par with a full-size cartridge like the 9mm. That said, it'll still put someone down. Right now, my funds are limited, so my daily carry is a .22LR Phoenix with 10 rounds in the mag and one in the pipe. Multiple rounds of that would ruin someone's day.
I figure 12 or so rounds of .45 is just fine. If you get a full-size pistol with a double-stack magazine, you can get that. While the 9mm is plenty of power with modern ammo, the .45 is subsonic in standard loadings, so it'll be MUCH quieter with a suppressor than 9mm. This is, of course, ignoring the gimped 9mm "subsonic" loads.
</gungeek>
I figure 12 or so rounds of .45 is just fine. If you get a full-size pistol with a double-stack magazine, you can get that. While the 9mm is plenty of power with modern ammo, the .45 is subsonic in standard loadings, so it'll be MUCH quieter with a suppressor than 9mm. This is, of course, ignoring the gimped 9mm "subsonic" loads.
</gungeek>
I have to weigh in on this.
It always amazes me how gun geeks will get into a tizzy about minute details of a drawn weapon's use, but they're perfectly fine with the idea of them being wielded by a six-foot tall, well-endowed, super-humanly strong cat girl.
Trina, in this incarnation, is a genetically created killing machine. She is inhumanly fast, strong and tough. Those two-pound guns weigh -nothing- to her. The recoil is nearly meaningless to her.
Besides, I'm not going to ultimate accuracy. The guns are props for the action of the picture. They're only barely drawn accurately. Take a photo of a real gun and compare it to what I've drawn and you'll find hordes of inaccuracies.
It's freakin' fantasy from top to bottom. If your belief suspenders don't snap from the idea of a big, voluptuous cat lady running around with guns, leaping away from explosions, they shouldn't strangle you because the handling of the fantasy pistols doesn't fit in with the experience of how you handle them.
Ye Gods.
It always amazes me how gun geeks will get into a tizzy about minute details of a drawn weapon's use, but they're perfectly fine with the idea of them being wielded by a six-foot tall, well-endowed, super-humanly strong cat girl.
Trina, in this incarnation, is a genetically created killing machine. She is inhumanly fast, strong and tough. Those two-pound guns weigh -nothing- to her. The recoil is nearly meaningless to her.
Besides, I'm not going to ultimate accuracy. The guns are props for the action of the picture. They're only barely drawn accurately. Take a photo of a real gun and compare it to what I've drawn and you'll find hordes of inaccuracies.
It's freakin' fantasy from top to bottom. If your belief suspenders don't snap from the idea of a big, voluptuous cat lady running around with guns, leaping away from explosions, they shouldn't strangle you because the handling of the fantasy pistols doesn't fit in with the experience of how you handle them.
Ye Gods.
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