This is.. Beautiful.

Very nice! It's good to see some more kitsune art here. I especially like how you did the hand-paws and hair

"I need all the anatomy and proportion help I can get on this. I'm lost and don't know what to think about it. Don't want it messed up like the tigress thing. This will be highly detailed"

Geez, it seems so wrong to even dare comment on this... I can't draw to save my life, and it seems cruel to pick apart someone else's attempt like this. So if it seems like I'm taking a dig here, I'm not... just trying to offer suggestions.

Body proportions appear to be right on the mark, I wouldn't change a thing there. Tail size is reasonable for a vulpine, seems to be about 2/3rds the leg length. Not sure about the body position though, it *seems* plausible, but I'd be tempted to check against a reference photo if you can find something suitable. I'm pretty sure getting the lower body at 90 degrees to the upper chest in that position would be uncomfortable at the least (though I can't say I've tried it!)

I think the main issue is with the head/muzzle proportions. The muzzle seems slightly too small and the skull unusually shaped around the base. The eyes seem a little too large for the head...

Suggestions --

- Look up some photos of foxes, especially head / skull photos and drawings (the engravings / line-art drawings from old nature books are often very detailed and astonishingly accurate). Concentrate on one species; the red fox (vulpes vulpes) is possibly the most well-known and the one you'll be most likely to find this kind of information for. Veterinary reference books might be another option; that might give you some information about fox anatomy (bone and muscle structure) which you can work from.

- Perhaps you could find a friend who would be willing to pose in front of a camera for you? That would give you something to work from in terms of poses. Another option would be to get a remote shutter release for your camera (which as I recall is a Canon Powershot). The mid-to-high-end versions of those usually have a remote sensor; you'll want a Canon RC-1 or RC-5 remote, but check the camera manual before buying! There should be a System Chart in the full manual (the several-hundred page PDF file) or in the paperwork with the camera; that tells you which accessories will work with your camera.

If you think they'll help -- I have quite a few photos of red foxes, mostly portraits, but also a few full-body shots. If you think these would be of any use to you, please let me know.

Thank you! Your observations have been extremely helpful an helped me firm up some of my thoughts on this. The biggest worry was the head proportion and you pointed out eye size. I thought the skull size was pretty close to what I wanted but I was wondering about the eye size. They seemed to make the head appear to large. I Like large eyes so I can get more detail in them and I wanted the eyes to be a bit more prominent than a standard foxes but I will make them a little smaller. I'll google fox skulls this eve and do some reverse engineering of the head. There will, out of necessity, be some skull mod at the base to be able to attach a quadruped head to a bipedal body. I'll see what I can come up with. I'll google fox faces too and make some comparisons. I had debated whether to go with a full feral head or slightly humanized. I will also draw the head without the hair, (something I should have done first), and see how it goes.

Pose. I actually tried it and it works. When the right knee is brought forward, it allows the body to curve some and get the shoulder angle/body direction about as depicted.
The only thing uncomfortable is raising the body up for extended periods of time as her left arm is the only one that can do the lifting. The right hand is brought up to brush the chin only to convey contemplation or whatever, no support there.

I also have my 16 year old son to model for me in a pinch and have used him on a number of occasions but not on this one.

I will most definitely work on the head, that was my biggest concern, followed by body proportion.

I really appreciate the help and also the offer of the photos. I'll repost a second draft as i can. :)

I'll send you an FA note shortly with a link to the photos.

In the FA critique forum, someone mentioned her ruff and that her muzzle appeared to be sliding off her face. THE RUFF! I did rotate her muzzle more to the right in development and forgot to bring the ruff around too. I have now swung the ruff around more and that allowed me to alter the eye making it appear smaller and in turn make the head appear smaller and much more defined. It was flat before.

I'm going to use your pics of that profile to get the lay of the fur. Thanks!

when i saw the thumbnail, for some reason for just a quick second I thought this was for me LOL how absurd I can be

I had been wanting to do a kitsune for a while but it was your post about your kitsune doll that prompted me to do this sketch. It will be the next thing I do after I finish your pic. I am very happy about how it is coming out. It's getting close. I had to re-learn my pencil technique for non-fur/smooth, so it is turning out to be a good learning experience. I will be posting very soon. Then will need BG advice.

Now you've made me feel guilty.