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For those of you who haven't heard of it, the Lavi was an Israeli Tactical Fighter project in the same mold as the F-16. Before you jump on me, I know that there are many 3-views of the Lavi on the Internet. There are many like it, but this one is MINE.
Remember the 3-view schematic of the IAI Arie that I posted before? As it turns out, the Lavi (Hebrew: "Young Lion") is actually a miniaturized Arie (Hebrew: "Lion"). When it was decided that Israel would purchase F-15s instead of Aries, it was decided to shrink-down the twin-engine Arie Air Superiority Fighter into a single-engine Tactical Fighter. And unlike the Arie, the Israelis actually built and FLEW the Lavi.
However, due to a combination of politics, economics, and fuzzy judgment, the project was cancelled. For this reason, the Lavi is viewed in Israel with curious mixture of both pride and shame. Part of that shame was that the F-15s and F-16s they bought to affect cost savings ended up costing Israel a LOT more money than the Arie and Lavi... along with Israel's capacity to develop and build fighters they could have exported.
Though ultimately, Israel had the last laugh. They gave most of the technology they developed for the Lavi to China, who developed the J-10 Vigorous Dragon out of it --- now Lavi technology is a direct physical threat to US strategic interests.
And for those of you who don't think Israel got the shaft, compare the F-16A's stats (on the left) to those of the Lavi (on the right);
Role: Tactical Fighter --- Tactical Fighter
Unit Price: $20 Million --- $17 Million
Crew: 1 --- 1
Size(LxWxH): 49.3x31x16.3ft --- 48x28x16ft
Wing Area: 300ft/2 --- 355ft2
Empty Weight: 15600lbs --- 15500lbs
Internal Fuel: 6970lbs --- 6000lbs
Payload: 17200lbs --- 16000lbs
Max. T/O Weight: 42300lbs --- 42500lbs
Wing Loading: 52lb/ft2 --- 43.66lb/ft2
T/W Ratio: 1.52 --- 1.32
T/W Ratio, Full Internal Fuel: 1.07 --- 0.95
Fuel Fraction: 30% --- 27%
Range: 500 miles --- 1300 miles
Ceiling: 50000ft --- 50000ft
Cruise Speed: 600mph --- 610mph
Top Speed: Mach 2 --- Mach 1.6
Climb Rate: 50000ft/min --- 50000ft/min
Initial Turn Rate: 27 degrees/sec --- 25 degrees/sec
Continuous Turn Rate: 18 degrees/sec --- 15 degrees/sec
Max. G-Load: +7/-3 --- +9/-3
Sensors (F-16A): AN/APG-66 Pulse Doppler Radar, RWR
Sensors: EL/M-2035 Pulse-Doppler Radar, RWR
Scan Range (F-16A): 70 miles @ 30 degrees
Scan Range (Lavi): 30 miles @ 30 degrees
Look Down: Yes --- Yes
Shoot Down: Yes --- Yes
Propulsion (F-16A): 1x P&W F100-100 Low-Bypass Turbofan w/17450lbs Military Thrust, 23800lbs/AB
Propulsion (Lavi): 1x P&W PW1120 Low-Bypass Turbofan w/13500lb Military Thrust, 20600lbs/AB
Weapon Stations (F-16A): 1x M61A1 Vulcan 20mm cannon w/500rds, 1x Centerline Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/1000lb Capacity, 2x Wingtip Missile Rail w/200lb Capacity
Weapon Stations (Lavi): 2x DEFA 552 30mm cannon w/400rds, 1x Centerline Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/2000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/1000lb Capacity, 2x Wingtip Missile Rail w/200lb Capacity
ECMs: Chaff/Flares (30/30rds), ASPJ --- Chaff/Flares (30/30rds), ASPJ
FBW: Yes --- Yes
RCS: 20ft3 --- 15ft3
Stealth: No --- No
Tailhook: No --- No
Catapult Hitch: No --- No
Drag Chute: Yes --- Yes
AAR: Yes --- Yes
Other (F-16A): Bubble Canopy, HOTAS, Zero-Zero Ejection Seat, Contoured Seat, LCD 3-screen MFD
Other (Lavi): All-Moving Canards, Bubble Canopy, HOTAS, Zero-Zero Ejection Seat, Holographic HUD, APU
F-16A advantages: 6
Lavi advantages: 11
Draws: 13
Winner: Lavi
And if *that* didn't make the superiority of the Lavi obvious enough, let's consider the fact that both aircraft were advertised as capable of pulling 9 G's, but while the Lavi was built to fit this requirement, the F-16A was not --- and as a result of the entire F-16A fleet having frequently pulled their advertised 9 G's when they were in fact built to withstand only SEVEN G's, the ENTIRE F-16A has to be scrapped (and in case you're wondering, General Dynamics never got into any trouble over this scandal). Why do you think the market was suddenly so receptive to the bloated, overweight F-16C?
Remember the 3-view schematic of the IAI Arie that I posted before? As it turns out, the Lavi (Hebrew: "Young Lion") is actually a miniaturized Arie (Hebrew: "Lion"). When it was decided that Israel would purchase F-15s instead of Aries, it was decided to shrink-down the twin-engine Arie Air Superiority Fighter into a single-engine Tactical Fighter. And unlike the Arie, the Israelis actually built and FLEW the Lavi.
However, due to a combination of politics, economics, and fuzzy judgment, the project was cancelled. For this reason, the Lavi is viewed in Israel with curious mixture of both pride and shame. Part of that shame was that the F-15s and F-16s they bought to affect cost savings ended up costing Israel a LOT more money than the Arie and Lavi... along with Israel's capacity to develop and build fighters they could have exported.
Though ultimately, Israel had the last laugh. They gave most of the technology they developed for the Lavi to China, who developed the J-10 Vigorous Dragon out of it --- now Lavi technology is a direct physical threat to US strategic interests.
And for those of you who don't think Israel got the shaft, compare the F-16A's stats (on the left) to those of the Lavi (on the right);
Role: Tactical Fighter --- Tactical Fighter
Unit Price: $20 Million --- $17 Million
Crew: 1 --- 1
Size(LxWxH): 49.3x31x16.3ft --- 48x28x16ft
Wing Area: 300ft/2 --- 355ft2
Empty Weight: 15600lbs --- 15500lbs
Internal Fuel: 6970lbs --- 6000lbs
Payload: 17200lbs --- 16000lbs
Max. T/O Weight: 42300lbs --- 42500lbs
Wing Loading: 52lb/ft2 --- 43.66lb/ft2
T/W Ratio: 1.52 --- 1.32
T/W Ratio, Full Internal Fuel: 1.07 --- 0.95
Fuel Fraction: 30% --- 27%
Range: 500 miles --- 1300 miles
Ceiling: 50000ft --- 50000ft
Cruise Speed: 600mph --- 610mph
Top Speed: Mach 2 --- Mach 1.6
Climb Rate: 50000ft/min --- 50000ft/min
Initial Turn Rate: 27 degrees/sec --- 25 degrees/sec
Continuous Turn Rate: 18 degrees/sec --- 15 degrees/sec
Max. G-Load: +7/-3 --- +9/-3
Sensors (F-16A): AN/APG-66 Pulse Doppler Radar, RWR
Sensors: EL/M-2035 Pulse-Doppler Radar, RWR
Scan Range (F-16A): 70 miles @ 30 degrees
Scan Range (Lavi): 30 miles @ 30 degrees
Look Down: Yes --- Yes
Shoot Down: Yes --- Yes
Propulsion (F-16A): 1x P&W F100-100 Low-Bypass Turbofan w/17450lbs Military Thrust, 23800lbs/AB
Propulsion (Lavi): 1x P&W PW1120 Low-Bypass Turbofan w/13500lb Military Thrust, 20600lbs/AB
Weapon Stations (F-16A): 1x M61A1 Vulcan 20mm cannon w/500rds, 1x Centerline Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/1000lb Capacity, 2x Wingtip Missile Rail w/200lb Capacity
Weapon Stations (Lavi): 2x DEFA 552 30mm cannon w/400rds, 1x Centerline Hardpoint w/3000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/2000lb Capacity, 2x Underwing Hardpoint w/1000lb Capacity, 2x Wingtip Missile Rail w/200lb Capacity
ECMs: Chaff/Flares (30/30rds), ASPJ --- Chaff/Flares (30/30rds), ASPJ
FBW: Yes --- Yes
RCS: 20ft3 --- 15ft3
Stealth: No --- No
Tailhook: No --- No
Catapult Hitch: No --- No
Drag Chute: Yes --- Yes
AAR: Yes --- Yes
Other (F-16A): Bubble Canopy, HOTAS, Zero-Zero Ejection Seat, Contoured Seat, LCD 3-screen MFD
Other (Lavi): All-Moving Canards, Bubble Canopy, HOTAS, Zero-Zero Ejection Seat, Holographic HUD, APU
F-16A advantages: 6
Lavi advantages: 11
Draws: 13
Winner: Lavi
And if *that* didn't make the superiority of the Lavi obvious enough, let's consider the fact that both aircraft were advertised as capable of pulling 9 G's, but while the Lavi was built to fit this requirement, the F-16A was not --- and as a result of the entire F-16A fleet having frequently pulled their advertised 9 G's when they were in fact built to withstand only SEVEN G's, the ENTIRE F-16A has to be scrapped (and in case you're wondering, General Dynamics never got into any trouble over this scandal). Why do you think the market was suddenly so receptive to the bloated, overweight F-16C?
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There was more US technology that went into the Lavi than that.
Northrop was literally strong-armed by the US government into GIVING AWAY private industrial secrets and sensitive technology from the F-20 Tigershark program to IAI's Lavi Project --- even though the Tigershark was 100% privately funded, designed, and developed;
http://www.f20a.com/f20hist5.htm
http://www.f20a.com/f20hist8.htm
Northrop was literally strong-armed by the US government into GIVING AWAY private industrial secrets and sensitive technology from the F-20 Tigershark program to IAI's Lavi Project --- even though the Tigershark was 100% privately funded, designed, and developed;
http://www.f20a.com/f20hist5.htm
http://www.f20a.com/f20hist8.htm
Sort of --- the Lavi's development began at around the same time, so many of the design trends were bound to be similar.
However, the Lavi was also partly derived from a previous Israel aircraft program, which never made it to the prototype stage (I made a schematic of that one as well!);
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/620232/
However, the Lavi was also partly derived from a previous Israel aircraft program, which never made it to the prototype stage (I made a schematic of that one as well!);
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/620232/
This one would have been alright, but... well, I dunno, based on the combat record of the F-15, ESPECIALLY in Israel, I think they did pretty good. Plus parts compatibility with NATO means that it's much cheaper. I can't comment on the F-16 in Israel, I know less about it's combat record there.
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