I've finally uploaded the data on my Mk.80 Onza APC design. It ontains 1.3 pages of technical data (similar to what you would see in a Jane's pulication), followed by a whopping 10 pages of design analysis.
Be advised that this is a LOT of information to digest, so I reccomend that you print it and read it later at your leisure.
Now you have the oppourtunity to see what makes my designs different from most others. Other "designers" will brag about "why" thier design is great --- I explain HOW my designs are great!
NOTE: If you are interested in studying this data, I also reccomend that you print it as soon as you can --- I have no idea what FA's policy on this type of upload would be, since not only is it not Furry, it is not even a story! So, I don't know if it will STAY uploaded to FA for very long.
Be advised that this is a LOT of information to digest, so I reccomend that you print it and read it later at your leisure.
Now you have the oppourtunity to see what makes my designs different from most others. Other "designers" will brag about "why" thier design is great --- I explain HOW my designs are great!
NOTE: If you are interested in studying this data, I also reccomend that you print it as soon as you can --- I have no idea what FA's policy on this type of upload would be, since not only is it not Furry, it is not even a story! So, I don't know if it will STAY uploaded to FA for very long.
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Heh. If you can't put the sensors on the bottom, you'd probably have only a hemisphere of detection. Direct LOS is required for most practical motion detectors. In fact, I can't think of how you'd do it with just sensors on the top. On the other hand, you could still have spherical detection if you placed sensors on the bottom and left it with the stock sensor on the top. It might not be quite as accurate, though.
First up, if I was in 'Procurement', I'd buy this track in a heartbeat. Second, this thing would be a helluva shock to any rotary-craft pilot.
One question, is it's weapons system modular, could you switch it out with say, a ATGM system, for use as a tank-destroyer, or with a multi-barrel cannon, for dedicated AAA?
One question, is it's weapons system modular, could you switch it out with say, a ATGM system, for use as a tank-destroyer, or with a multi-barrel cannon, for dedicated AAA?
Since the turret "ring" is actually just a dish-like depression on the roof, I'd it could be done. In fact, I'm currently working on a variant not unlike some of the systems you mention.
Also, keep in mind that the cannon on top of the turret mast is a 40mm gun, not one of those wimpy little 30mm's like the kind used on the BMP-2 or AH-64 Apache. 40's are VERY destructive, as evidenced by the fact that the British Matilda II tank (nicknamed "Queen of the Desert", for it's fearsome combat reputation), which used a 40mm howitzer, regularly busted tanks with single shots! Expect the same punch from each round fired by the Onza --- at 500rpm. Also, there's the Borfors quad-40mm AA gun, which is a story all it's own.
What I mean by all that is, the Onza has no need for a rotory cannon, because each individual round plants a LOT of metal and/or explosives on the enemy, at great range --- it's a serious threat to fixed-wing foes as well, who will not likely bear a similar weapon.
Also, keep in mind that the cannon on top of the turret mast is a 40mm gun, not one of those wimpy little 30mm's like the kind used on the BMP-2 or AH-64 Apache. 40's are VERY destructive, as evidenced by the fact that the British Matilda II tank (nicknamed "Queen of the Desert", for it's fearsome combat reputation), which used a 40mm howitzer, regularly busted tanks with single shots! Expect the same punch from each round fired by the Onza --- at 500rpm. Also, there's the Borfors quad-40mm AA gun, which is a story all it's own.
What I mean by all that is, the Onza has no need for a rotory cannon, because each individual round plants a LOT of metal and/or explosives on the enemy, at great range --- it's a serious threat to fixed-wing foes as well, who will not likely bear a similar weapon.
My initial plan was to use a 20mm or 25mm autocannon, but I learned something about those calibers recently --- they cannot reliably penetrate thick masonry, like larger calibers can.
But don't take my word for it, see for yourself;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OROlnnU_T4
This 3-story apartment building, built like nearly all urban structures in the middle-east, doesent even FEEL those 25mm's. Meanwhile, small arms fire (which has no effect whatsoever against this type of target) ricochets off from all sides. HEAT warheads in the M2's TOW missiles (and the infantry's ludicrously expensive Javelin missiles) punch holes in the building that are too small for either entry OR floor-clearing. The M1 tank fires a perfectly worthless (Vs. structures) Sabot round, and a few 40mm grenades bounce off the walls.
What is NOT included in the video, is how tht shootout ended --- having wasted much ammunition, time, and other taxpayer-funded resources (and finally realising their equipment was incapable of the required mission --- floor clearance), an artillery strike was finally called in that erased the apartments (and much of their city block) off the map.
That Arty round was a specail guided round, that cost nearly $1 million.
Result: Time squandered, much ammo wasted, much fuel burned, attention diverted from other ares, forces drawn away from other areas, troops exhausted, and large areas of civilian property are destroyed beyod repair --- meanwhile, the insurgeants may have slipped out unnoticed through a tunnel or mousehole.
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Or, a Mk.80 Onza could drive right up to that building and draw lines of fire along each floor, sending heavy shells THROUGH the building, brutally killing everything inside.
Result: Insurgeants dead, civilian property damaged (though repairable), ground gained, resourced saved, and life gets that much harder for Johnny Jihad.
Don't get me wrong, DireWolf, 25's are great Vs aircraft, trenches, material targets, and light armor... but that's about it.
But don't take my word for it, see for yourself;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OROlnnU_T4
This 3-story apartment building, built like nearly all urban structures in the middle-east, doesent even FEEL those 25mm's. Meanwhile, small arms fire (which has no effect whatsoever against this type of target) ricochets off from all sides. HEAT warheads in the M2's TOW missiles (and the infantry's ludicrously expensive Javelin missiles) punch holes in the building that are too small for either entry OR floor-clearing. The M1 tank fires a perfectly worthless (Vs. structures) Sabot round, and a few 40mm grenades bounce off the walls.
What is NOT included in the video, is how tht shootout ended --- having wasted much ammunition, time, and other taxpayer-funded resources (and finally realising their equipment was incapable of the required mission --- floor clearance), an artillery strike was finally called in that erased the apartments (and much of their city block) off the map.
That Arty round was a specail guided round, that cost nearly $1 million.
Result: Time squandered, much ammo wasted, much fuel burned, attention diverted from other ares, forces drawn away from other areas, troops exhausted, and large areas of civilian property are destroyed beyod repair --- meanwhile, the insurgeants may have slipped out unnoticed through a tunnel or mousehole.
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Or, a Mk.80 Onza could drive right up to that building and draw lines of fire along each floor, sending heavy shells THROUGH the building, brutally killing everything inside.
Result: Insurgeants dead, civilian property damaged (though repairable), ground gained, resourced saved, and life gets that much harder for Johnny Jihad.
Don't get me wrong, DireWolf, 25's are great Vs aircraft, trenches, material targets, and light armor... but that's about it.
..I thought we were talkin' 'bout the SPAAG version, so it would be alright.
Or, just design a 25mm cannon, that uses a more powerful round, longer case.
As fer the vid, my comp takes forever to load vid. But I trust ya.
The 'Silver Bullet' is useless against anything but AVs. And this high-tech 'Shock & Awe' warfare is BS.
Or, just design a 25mm cannon, that uses a more powerful round, longer case.
As fer the vid, my comp takes forever to load vid. But I trust ya.
The 'Silver Bullet' is useless against anything but AVs. And this high-tech 'Shock & Awe' warfare is BS.
"Shock and Awe" used to be known as "Bombard and Occupy", which is the assumption that the enemy will ALWAYS give up if you shake them up with a few big, scattered explosions --- and then you can move in and capture them.
Of course, when it was actually tried it in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, the enemy enemy came out shot at us when we approached them...
Of course, when it was actually tried it in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, the enemy enemy came out shot at us when we approached them...
40mm autocannons, too big? Not even close! The Russian BMP-3 uses the same rifled-bore 100mm howitzer as the T-55 MBT, and the new BMP-4 has the T-90's gun --- a smooth-bore 125mm(!) howitzer. Both can gun-launch supersonic laser-guided misssiles, as well.
A cannon doesn't need a wide bore to be highly destructive, either. The RDF light tank (of which prototypes were built in the '80's, by AAI) had a humble 3" (76mm) howitzer... that could waste a T-72 at three miles, and even shoot down highly evasive aircraft!
A cannon doesn't need a wide bore to be highly destructive, either. The RDF light tank (of which prototypes were built in the '80's, by AAI) had a humble 3" (76mm) howitzer... that could waste a T-72 at three miles, and even shoot down highly evasive aircraft!
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