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This is stuff I did in the evenings while on my school trip to New York. Just to wind down, you know?
I am a problem child.
First internals that really acknowledge the dual-belly action that's always been at work. XD
forcibly separated and untangled for sorta-clarity.
I am a problem child.
First internals that really acknowledge the dual-belly action that's always been at work. XD
forcibly separated and untangled for sorta-clarity.
Category Artwork (Traditional) / Fanart
Species Dragon (Other)
Size 1000 x 1900px
File Size 340.9 kB
What, that poorly drawn and exaggeratedly huge bulge? XD (hahaha, bugle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugle )
Yeah, I was thinking unwilling and dangerous, and for some reason that old story popped up. XD
HE FEELS SO GOOD IN THERE HE MUST BE KNEADED and cuddled and squished and stroked and squeezed. :)
<3
Yeah, I was thinking unwilling and dangerous, and for some reason that old story popped up. XD
HE FEELS SO GOOD IN THERE HE MUST BE KNEADED and cuddled and squished and stroked and squeezed. :)
<3
Yeah, the second tummy peeking out there. XD It was always there, I was just too lazy to draw it. XDXD
Fun to do a "sliding in" sequence. I don't know why I don't do that much- that's one of the best moments, when the tummy goes from loose and empty to nice and swollen.
And I always picture Toothless doing a YAY YOU'RE HERE! hug once the Hiccup-lump registers. XD
Fun to do a "sliding in" sequence. I don't know why I don't do that much- that's one of the best moments, when the tummy goes from loose and empty to nice and swollen.
And I always picture Toothless doing a YAY YOU'RE HERE! hug once the Hiccup-lump registers. XD
Ungrateful little...
I always wondered about that. Is that just how it is for your imagination, or do you really think his insides would be soft? Like, his mouth for example, he probably has to put up with prey attacking him, but I could see that being sensitive. His insides however have to withstand the 'fire in his belly', and all that heat should mean rough, or at least not highly sensitive, insides. I will still pretend that Toothless can feel every lump and crevice on Hiccup's pathetic, wriggling form, but I also like to know what truths I'm ignoring to make vore more palletable.
I always wondered about that. Is that just how it is for your imagination, or do you really think his insides would be soft? Like, his mouth for example, he probably has to put up with prey attacking him, but I could see that being sensitive. His insides however have to withstand the 'fire in his belly', and all that heat should mean rough, or at least not highly sensitive, insides. I will still pretend that Toothless can feel every lump and crevice on Hiccup's pathetic, wriggling form, but I also like to know what truths I'm ignoring to make vore more palletable.
ha, if anything, I'd say his mouth would be tougher to protect against the fire (the teeth, in theory, retract to avoid damage from that flame)- in my mind, Toothless' crop has very little to do with his fire, and I often think of Toothless as able to breathe fire while keeping Hiccup safely inside.
A lot of this is informed by the fact that if you watch closely in the movie, Toothless' fire is formed by a gas that forms at the back of his mouth, which he ignites somehow before expulsion- I generally imagine that ignition takes place somewhere in his upper respiratory tract. Where the gas itself forms is a good question, though- it could be part of his respiratory tract, or possibly a byproduct of his digestive tract, maybe filtered off the sulfury soup in his second stomach.
All the dragons are different, though. I think a Night Fury, or the similarly gas-based Zippleback, would have a safer internal temperature than, say, a Nightmare, or especially a Gronckle-- though they ALL seem to have the capability to vomit fish that seems to be raw, so they must be well-insulated.
I generally think of his crop as quite sensitive, at least enough that if you asked him for the biggest fish in his crop, he'd be able to find it, sort it out and vomit it for you. XD I've played around with the idea that the predigestive/protective juices there are specially suited to stunning his usual diet of fish, so that the stomach walls aren't damaged much by flopping and fins, yet isn't too dangerous to Hiccup (perhaps a bit tingly). Even just sensitivity to contours is compelling to me- that's still unusual for innards, after all.
Of course, this is all my theory, because I muse on this silliness quite a lot. XD
A lot of this is informed by the fact that if you watch closely in the movie, Toothless' fire is formed by a gas that forms at the back of his mouth, which he ignites somehow before expulsion- I generally imagine that ignition takes place somewhere in his upper respiratory tract. Where the gas itself forms is a good question, though- it could be part of his respiratory tract, or possibly a byproduct of his digestive tract, maybe filtered off the sulfury soup in his second stomach.
All the dragons are different, though. I think a Night Fury, or the similarly gas-based Zippleback, would have a safer internal temperature than, say, a Nightmare, or especially a Gronckle-- though they ALL seem to have the capability to vomit fish that seems to be raw, so they must be well-insulated.
I generally think of his crop as quite sensitive, at least enough that if you asked him for the biggest fish in his crop, he'd be able to find it, sort it out and vomit it for you. XD I've played around with the idea that the predigestive/protective juices there are specially suited to stunning his usual diet of fish, so that the stomach walls aren't damaged much by flopping and fins, yet isn't too dangerous to Hiccup (perhaps a bit tingly). Even just sensitivity to contours is compelling to me- that's still unusual for innards, after all.
Of course, this is all my theory, because I muse on this silliness quite a lot. XD
Well, isn't the crop in the path of the digestive tract? Meaning, you go from mouth to throat to crop to first stomach, etc. I guess it depends on how the dragon breaths fire. I do think you're right about the crop being sensitive to contours at the very least. A dragon would need to be able to determine how much food is in his crop and how much to push upward or inward and when.
The respiratory system sounds dangerous. I can imagine a dragon accidentally exploding his lungs. >.< As for being a byproduct of the digestive tract, I have to side with that one. Long ago, I saw a video where they went 'inside' a 3D model of a dragon to explain a possibility for how they work. Digestion resulted in a flammable gas that would collect in the stomach and/or a nearby reservoir. If the dragon accumulated enough of this gas, the buoyant force would allow them to fly for short distances, like a turkey. Additionally, by vigorously expelling the gas through their nostrils, they would sufficiently pressurize the gas so it would ignite, possibly also causing the nearby air to burn. Unfortunately, this meant a dragon could only breath so much fire before it could no longer fly because the buildup was not instantaneous. That whole process seemed pretty logical to me. It also means the flame would not ignite until it reached the upper respiratory area. So save for the dizzying effects of gale force winds, a tiny passenger in your crop would survive.
I also like that idea of the saliva or gastric juices containing a numbing agent, as you suggested. Maybe enough to subdue a 20 pound fish, but only so much to live Hiccup with a tingly numby feeling. He might even experience some kind of euphoria. ; )
Nah, if he were then there would be much cuddling of Toothless insides because it would feel ssooooo gooooood. XD
The respiratory system sounds dangerous. I can imagine a dragon accidentally exploding his lungs. >.< As for being a byproduct of the digestive tract, I have to side with that one. Long ago, I saw a video where they went 'inside' a 3D model of a dragon to explain a possibility for how they work. Digestion resulted in a flammable gas that would collect in the stomach and/or a nearby reservoir. If the dragon accumulated enough of this gas, the buoyant force would allow them to fly for short distances, like a turkey. Additionally, by vigorously expelling the gas through their nostrils, they would sufficiently pressurize the gas so it would ignite, possibly also causing the nearby air to burn. Unfortunately, this meant a dragon could only breath so much fire before it could no longer fly because the buildup was not instantaneous. That whole process seemed pretty logical to me. It also means the flame would not ignite until it reached the upper respiratory area. So save for the dizzying effects of gale force winds, a tiny passenger in your crop would survive.
I also like that idea of the saliva or gastric juices containing a numbing agent, as you suggested. Maybe enough to subdue a 20 pound fish, but only so much to live Hiccup with a tingly numby feeling. He might even experience some kind of euphoria. ; )
Nah, if he were then there would be much cuddling of Toothless insides because it would feel ssooooo gooooood. XD
Well, generally. I've kind of thought about even a separate set of gas-organs that could either link the stomach gases to the lungs, or filter byproducts from the blood near the digestive passages into areas near the throat or respiratory system- kind of like a special blood filter like a kidney that excretes explosive gas into a special passageway. It's dragons, so it could really be anything. I know that Cowell talks about the dragons having "fire-holes" which implies the fire is a third system altogether- thought movie-side, the dragons seem to have several different types of systems.
It's made clear in the movie that a dragon exploding his innards is a distinct possibility. Hiccup kills the Green Death by having his gas ignite inside his body. I like the idea of buoyant gases, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to the movie's dragons, which clearly aren't very scientific. The Gronckle, one of the impossible fliers, has the heaviest fire-system, melting rocks somewhere in its gut (evidently separate from its crop, since it still maintains the capacity to vomit fish that haven't been utterly destroyed by rock-melting heat!). All dragons are said to have a shot limit, but the only dragons this is really demonstrated on are ones that shoot a solid fire-source, the Gronckle's melted rock, and the Nightmare's burning oil. The gas-based Zippleback, Green Death, Nadder(?), Terror and Night Fury aren't shown to have that issue, and it's implied in movie-related media that the Night Fury for sure likely doesn't have a shot limit, or at least can outshoot most other dragons- i.e., not be dropping out of the sky due to gas issues.
I've always just treated the fire-system as something a safe distance away from the crop in general. The gas-based dragons' fire really seems to be ignited just after it leaves the throat, or even outside of the mouth.
I usually describe the crop as tingly if the scenario has Hiccup acknowledging it (sometimes he confuses it for digestion, or out of fear ignores it altogether). When he's willing, I would say it does effectively become euphoria- such as when he hides from cold, the sensations inside become overwhelmingly nice. He usually manages to see the more positive side of the situation once he's been in there long enough. Perhaps it's part of what helps him eventually calm down and sleep.
YAY DRAGON SCIENCE
It's made clear in the movie that a dragon exploding his innards is a distinct possibility. Hiccup kills the Green Death by having his gas ignite inside his body. I like the idea of buoyant gases, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to the movie's dragons, which clearly aren't very scientific. The Gronckle, one of the impossible fliers, has the heaviest fire-system, melting rocks somewhere in its gut (evidently separate from its crop, since it still maintains the capacity to vomit fish that haven't been utterly destroyed by rock-melting heat!). All dragons are said to have a shot limit, but the only dragons this is really demonstrated on are ones that shoot a solid fire-source, the Gronckle's melted rock, and the Nightmare's burning oil. The gas-based Zippleback, Green Death, Nadder(?), Terror and Night Fury aren't shown to have that issue, and it's implied in movie-related media that the Night Fury for sure likely doesn't have a shot limit, or at least can outshoot most other dragons- i.e., not be dropping out of the sky due to gas issues.
I've always just treated the fire-system as something a safe distance away from the crop in general. The gas-based dragons' fire really seems to be ignited just after it leaves the throat, or even outside of the mouth.
I usually describe the crop as tingly if the scenario has Hiccup acknowledging it (sometimes he confuses it for digestion, or out of fear ignores it altogether). When he's willing, I would say it does effectively become euphoria- such as when he hides from cold, the sensations inside become overwhelmingly nice. He usually manages to see the more positive side of the situation once he's been in there long enough. Perhaps it's part of what helps him eventually calm down and sleep.
YAY DRAGON SCIENCE
Wow, you have clearly spent way too much time thinking about this, lol.
I think you're right. The gas/flight trade-off seems inapplicable to Cowell's dragons who, among other things, can breath solid fire substances and regurgitate fish. I do like that idea of having a dedicated fire gland/organ and system of some sort. We have a pancreas, pituitary, lymph nodes, as well as endocrine and digestive systems, just to name a few. If we have special systems then the dragons probably have also evolved such a system.
Well, we wouldn't want poor Hiccup to get hurt now would we? He knows he loves it, even if he also hates it. XD
I think you're right. The gas/flight trade-off seems inapplicable to Cowell's dragons who, among other things, can breath solid fire substances and regurgitate fish. I do like that idea of having a dedicated fire gland/organ and system of some sort. We have a pancreas, pituitary, lymph nodes, as well as endocrine and digestive systems, just to name a few. If we have special systems then the dragons probably have also evolved such a system.
Well, we wouldn't want poor Hiccup to get hurt now would we? He knows he loves it, even if he also hates it. XD
YOU KNOW IT. XD
but it's fun, cuz it's dragons, so it could be as complicated as all that, or as simple as LOL MAGIC!
Ultimately he appreciates the gesture, since there's no doubt it comes from some very loving positive emotions on the part of his dragon (if it didn't, he'd be dead. XD)
but it's fun, cuz it's dragons, so it could be as complicated as all that, or as simple as LOL MAGIC!
Ultimately he appreciates the gesture, since there's no doubt it comes from some very loving positive emotions on the part of his dragon (if it didn't, he'd be dead. XD)
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