THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN ARTIST.
*points to seal*
THIS DOES.
( http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/162261/ )
Credit goes to
sonderjen for this goddamn meme, I think.
*points to seal*
THIS DOES.
( http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/162261/ )
Credit goes to
sonderjen for this goddamn meme, I think.
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Pomposity is one thing, but I don't think the man deserves to be bullied like this. =/
And you're gay! Surely then you know what it's like to be ostracized the way you're treating that man now. I can't say I'm very proud of you or anyone else participating in this "bully the guy who doesn't agree with popular opinion" meme.
And you're gay! Surely then you know what it's like to be ostracized the way you're treating that man now. I can't say I'm very proud of you or anyone else participating in this "bully the guy who doesn't agree with popular opinion" meme.
He's not being bullied. He's being made fun of on the internet, through pictures. Which, I will remind you, he brought upon himself, just like anyone brings anything on themselves when they refuse to think their opinions through or defend them with anything substantial.
Ahem. I, did NOT CHOOSE to be gay. This man, CHOOSES to remain ignorant of any other facts than what he currently knows. If I can endure society's slings and arrows for being not just gay, not just furry, but haunted by visions of untold violence and cruelty, then he can endure a little flak for CHOOSING to downplay everyone else to better his own self image.
I'm not picking on you, but there really is no comparison, here. He's not a victim at all, and if he was, he could and would have taken my inquiries seriously and talked through it, instead of discounting everyone instantly.
Okay?
No more guilt trips.
Ahem. I, did NOT CHOOSE to be gay. This man, CHOOSES to remain ignorant of any other facts than what he currently knows. If I can endure society's slings and arrows for being not just gay, not just furry, but haunted by visions of untold violence and cruelty, then he can endure a little flak for CHOOSING to downplay everyone else to better his own self image.
I'm not picking on you, but there really is no comparison, here. He's not a victim at all, and if he was, he could and would have taken my inquiries seriously and talked through it, instead of discounting everyone instantly.
Okay?
No more guilt trips.
I'm sorry, but I don't honestly believe someone can choose to change their personality and beliefs any easier than you could choose to change your sexuality, or choose to stop liking anthromorphics.
And if you honestly believe that someone can, well.. then maybe a lot of people around here should 'choose' to become more forgiving and a little more mature.
While we're at it.. I just love how the fandom will jump on guys like that because he's an easy target, but when a well-known artist, or even someone with connections to popular artists displays pomposity that makes THAT guy look humble, everyone is willing to completely IGNORE it. Yeah, it's so cool to make fun of the little guys, but noone dares stand up to the BIG jerks.
And if you honestly believe that someone can, well.. then maybe a lot of people around here should 'choose' to become more forgiving and a little more mature.
While we're at it.. I just love how the fandom will jump on guys like that because he's an easy target, but when a well-known artist, or even someone with connections to popular artists displays pomposity that makes THAT guy look humble, everyone is willing to completely IGNORE it. Yeah, it's so cool to make fun of the little guys, but noone dares stand up to the BIG jerks.
Okay, listen, I was being nice not mentioning anything about the fact that you're using my sexuality against me in a way that's very very uncool, but to imply that it would mentally destroy this man to realize that there's more to creation than arbitrary documentation is just fucking silly. Those are not his beliefs, they're his thoughts, and he posted them publically. If he was too sensitive for any kickback- which I will remind you he is apparently not considering that YOU are having to defend him instead of doing so himself- then he should not have posted them on the internet. You KNOW that.
And I have come up against very popular artists many a time, when I was dead sure they were wrong and needed to be told so. Honestly, stop. Quit trying to villify me for making fun of somebody, these people do not need crusaders.
And I have come up against very popular artists many a time, when I was dead sure they were wrong and needed to be told so. Honestly, stop. Quit trying to villify me for making fun of somebody, these people do not need crusaders.
*sigh* .. fine, I'm sorry. I hope you won't hold a grudge against me. It's just that I've been in that bozo's shoes before. I've said things that were controversial, worded some things a bit less than tactfully, and then when the community turns and jumps on me for it.. well, it's a real scary feeling. Personally, there aren't many people I would wish that on. But I'm sorry for laying my ideals on you like that. =/
Hey, it's okay, I don't hold grudges. And I normally don't involve myself in these sorts of things when they involve issues I'm divided on. I think we've all been in his shoes before, though, me included. You don't know all the facts about something, you go out, say it, and get your tail lashed for it. It's part of growing as a person, and it teaches you things, gives you character. It's not fun, no, but it is a necessary evil in the realm of personal growth- that is to say, it is impossible to expand beyond the ego, even in small doses.
So in the grand scheme of things, he'll either reconsider his thoughts, or compound his convictions. Either way, I'm fairly sure he'll walk away from this just fine, and could probably come back with a better representation to good results. Who knows? It's all up to him.
And hey, I don't blame you for your intentions. It's good to keep others in mind. Just, some battles aren't worth the fight.
So in the grand scheme of things, he'll either reconsider his thoughts, or compound his convictions. Either way, I'm fairly sure he'll walk away from this just fine, and could probably come back with a better representation to good results. Who knows? It's all up to him.
And hey, I don't blame you for your intentions. It's good to keep others in mind. Just, some battles aren't worth the fight.
Wow. This is a complicated topic. What the original post lacked in merit was more than made up for in pomposity, but remove the retarded comments from the 500-odd replies, and some interesting points are raised.
While the meme itself is funny, I do think this guy should be ignored, rather than ridiculed - Just imagine the newspaper headline:
Immoral Furry website drives certified artist to go postal.
While the meme itself is funny, I do think this guy should be ignored, rather than ridiculed - Just imagine the newspaper headline:
Immoral Furry website drives certified artist to go postal.
Look. A guy goes about posting whatever he wants in a self-absorbed effort to make himself feel better and everyone else feel worse about themselves. We respond not by trying to censor him or destroy his ability to post, but critiquing him through submissions and comments. He himself said that any artist worth their salt should be able to take such criticism. As far as I'm concerned, there is no need at all to lay it on him gently.
And besides, it's stress relief for the rest of us.
And besides, it's stress relief for the rest of us.
TESTIFY!
Seriously, Nori, you were right, as we all were, to furiously flog this f***head like the friggin.....um...uh..(runs out of 'F' words) idiot he is, was, and always will be. I read your statements on that journal (which will most likely crash the damned server....again) and agree whole-heartedly.
But to keep it brief, I read all those posts and the only thought that ran through the empty space parked between my ears was this:
"Anyone else smell a noob getting pwned?"
Seriously, Nori, you were right, as we all were, to furiously flog this f***head like the friggin.....um...uh..(runs out of 'F' words) idiot he is, was, and always will be. I read your statements on that journal (which will most likely crash the damned server....again) and agree whole-heartedly.
But to keep it brief, I read all those posts and the only thought that ran through the empty space parked between my ears was this:
"Anyone else smell a noob getting pwned?"
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