(Commission for
wolfmagik)
"Money isn't inherently evil. It's just that evil people tend to have an easier time getting a lot of it"
Y'know, painting leopard spots is kinda relaxin'. Really enjoyed workin' on this one. Good way of gettin' back into the swing of things.
The real challenge was that suit. he told me to combine punk, futuristic, the feeling of BIG MONEY and business casual. I just couldn't pull off the "casual" part, but he seemed happy with the result, regardless
Wolfmagik, his unnamed secretary, and now-late nameless, expendable executive © their owner
Art © The guy who'd only joke about cigars outside of earshot of someone who could afford to kill him, me
wolfmagik)"Money isn't inherently evil. It's just that evil people tend to have an easier time getting a lot of it"
Y'know, painting leopard spots is kinda relaxin'. Really enjoyed workin' on this one. Good way of gettin' back into the swing of things.
The real challenge was that suit. he told me to combine punk, futuristic, the feeling of BIG MONEY and business casual. I just couldn't pull off the "casual" part, but he seemed happy with the result, regardless
Wolfmagik, his unnamed secretary, and now-late nameless, expendable executive © their owner
Art © The guy who'd only joke about cigars outside of earshot of someone who could afford to kill him, me
Category All / All
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 764 x 977px
File Size 638.6 kB
No worries; cleaning crew will make everything spic n' span in no time. Body will be incinerated, after fingerprints, teeth and facial features are removed to negate identification; he has already figured it all out and has plans in place to ensure nothing is overlooked.
You don't become powerful by being sloppy.
You don't become powerful by being sloppy.
You do not have to have red skin, horns and a forked tail to be "evil"; those were put in by Renaissance Era artists. SOmeone who is truly evil or "deminic" in nature would never show it; look at people like Charles Mason; their evil comes from the way he mesmerized and captivated his "family" into murder and had no remorse about it. There lies true evil.
Behind that desk there's a window-cleaner who's running for his life now.
Love the simple but powerful setup here. :)
Also love the use of buckles on a business suit. I may have to try something like that when I finally start experimenting with sewing.
Little confused about the cut of the jacket though with the collar swooping down and around on one side, but still tucks in behind the other side. Like its.. triple-breasted? Somewhere between optical-illusion and overtones of a toga.
Love the simple but powerful setup here. :)
Also love the use of buckles on a business suit. I may have to try something like that when I finally start experimenting with sewing.
Little confused about the cut of the jacket though with the collar swooping down and around on one side, but still tucks in behind the other side. Like its.. triple-breasted? Somewhere between optical-illusion and overtones of a toga.
First thought when I saw the title was this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZKAo-DfNxM
Anyway, wonderful art as always
Anyway, wonderful art as always
thats true, but to be brutally honest:
"hell, compared to most professionals of my skill level I'm -STILL- underpricing myself." (quote from your last journal)
for a professional you still need to work on your anatomy, perspective, contrasts and reflections quite heavily^^
im not trying to insult you here, this is really just supposed to be a constructive critique. when you ignore all the drama in that thread on lulz then the two guys who redlined your latest piece actually have a lot of valid points there!
"hell, compared to most professionals of my skill level I'm -STILL- underpricing myself." (quote from your last journal)
for a professional you still need to work on your anatomy, perspective, contrasts and reflections quite heavily^^
im not trying to insult you here, this is really just supposed to be a constructive critique. when you ignore all the drama in that thread on lulz then the two guys who redlined your latest piece actually have a lot of valid points there!
Strype, you know all those posts you make about how you feel inadiquite, an a terrible artists. this is why. If you listen to constructive criticism and actually work on becoming a better artist, people will have an easier time accepting you for yourself. the only reason for the critisism to get to you as it does is because you know they are right. Either you are a good artists and just lazy, or you are bad artists over pricing. For a less angry rant on what is wrong with the picture.
-the glow reflection on the ceiling is not angled properly. It does not match the angle the gun suggests
-the torso on the male is too long, it throws off the proportions.
-the right pinky on the male (from the viewers prospective) is out of proportion. it seems too small.
-the suit jacket on the male is not fitted, If he is really that powerful of a crime boss, the jacket should be fitted rather then straight down.
-the suit jacket is not shaded to the same quality as the rest of the work.
-why is the male glowing?
-for being a dark after hours office, it is rather well lit.
-for being a rather well lit office, where are the shadows.
-on the leopard, her feet are just badly done, there is no definition to them, just two tubes wrapped in furr stuck in an ugly heel. Sure stype is a MAN but he must have some idea on shoe style.
-why does she have a glow on her arm where the laser gun would be blocking the glow. I know you were a military brat strype, you more then anyone should know how guns are held.
-the reflections on the tile do not match what would actually be reflected from the city scape.
-Leopards tales do not end in white. leopards spots do not fade, its is either colour or white. 60 seconds of Google image searching proves that.
-her pouty bottom lip looks like it goes too low, and prevents her from having an upper lip at all
-His collar, what is up with that strange line work on the left. a jacket does not wrinkle like that. Is is supposed to imply he is wearing an extra sleve on his right side? if so, I would drop that completely, its distracting and looks terrible.
These are just some of the things I have to say about the art. I Do not hate your work strype, I have enjoyed much of it, but you are not getting better. This piece is technically worse done then your early works. If you are tired of people bitching and moaning about your prices, and if you are tired of feeling sorry for yourself. Do yourself a favour and start listening to constructive criticism and learning from it.
-the glow reflection on the ceiling is not angled properly. It does not match the angle the gun suggests
-the torso on the male is too long, it throws off the proportions.
-the right pinky on the male (from the viewers prospective) is out of proportion. it seems too small.
-the suit jacket on the male is not fitted, If he is really that powerful of a crime boss, the jacket should be fitted rather then straight down.
-the suit jacket is not shaded to the same quality as the rest of the work.
-why is the male glowing?
-for being a dark after hours office, it is rather well lit.
-for being a rather well lit office, where are the shadows.
-on the leopard, her feet are just badly done, there is no definition to them, just two tubes wrapped in furr stuck in an ugly heel. Sure stype is a MAN but he must have some idea on shoe style.
-why does she have a glow on her arm where the laser gun would be blocking the glow. I know you were a military brat strype, you more then anyone should know how guns are held.
-the reflections on the tile do not match what would actually be reflected from the city scape.
-Leopards tales do not end in white. leopards spots do not fade, its is either colour or white. 60 seconds of Google image searching proves that.
-her pouty bottom lip looks like it goes too low, and prevents her from having an upper lip at all
-His collar, what is up with that strange line work on the left. a jacket does not wrinkle like that. Is is supposed to imply he is wearing an extra sleve on his right side? if so, I would drop that completely, its distracting and looks terrible.
These are just some of the things I have to say about the art. I Do not hate your work strype, I have enjoyed much of it, but you are not getting better. This piece is technically worse done then your early works. If you are tired of people bitching and moaning about your prices, and if you are tired of feeling sorry for yourself. Do yourself a favour and start listening to constructive criticism and learning from it.
I like the idea of constructive criticism, but you're going a little overboard here.
Yeah, you pointed out some real technical flaws here, but let's be honest; not all of the things you pointed out were worth pointing out. ESPECIALLY about the guy's jacket. If you read the author comments, you would notice that the commissioner had asked for something DIFFERENT, something outside the bounds of a normal suit.
You can't think too hard when delivering criticism, or the people will just criticize you in turn, rather than actually listen to you what you said that was right. This would be a watered-down example of that.
Try not to come off being so assertive next time. Don't tell people to do themselves any favors, because they'll only be motivated to do the opposite of that.
Yeah, you pointed out some real technical flaws here, but let's be honest; not all of the things you pointed out were worth pointing out. ESPECIALLY about the guy's jacket. If you read the author comments, you would notice that the commissioner had asked for something DIFFERENT, something outside the bounds of a normal suit.
You can't think too hard when delivering criticism, or the people will just criticize you in turn, rather than actually listen to you what you said that was right. This would be a watered-down example of that.
Try not to come off being so assertive next time. Don't tell people to do themselves any favors, because they'll only be motivated to do the opposite of that.
I understand the want of something different, Ive just seen what Strype will do when he runs with an idea, and just tossing an odd collar on does not do his creativity credit and come out and say "cyberpunk" more then just dark future. Maybe something to imply the sleeve is armored to protect against a melee attack, or maybe imply a weapon hidden behind it to give the idea of a speed holster. Another option is make both sleeves look like that and give what would then be the middle vest area a heavier look to imply it being bullet proof. I still stick by my opinion that the suit should be fitted somehow to imply that he has even more money, rather then just being an upstart punk putting on airs.
I will admit I was a little harsh and assertive, and I apologize for that. (again, first apology was on his journal) It stemmed from noticing things that were not up to the usual quality.
The point of Criticism is to think hard about the piece and to point out every small thing that bothers. It is the fine details that make or break a piece. You need to think hard about a piece to avoid just posting an emotional response and think deeper about why it makes you feel one way or other. "its good/its crap" is useless without saying why the good piece could be better or what in the crap piece works. I actually like this piece, and Strypes work in general. In the future I will be keeping the knee jerk responses like the first bit. The last bit should have been re-worded I admit, and the only reason I posted as I did is an attempt at tough love but it comes across as more bitching then anything.
I will admit I was a little harsh and assertive, and I apologize for that. (again, first apology was on his journal) It stemmed from noticing things that were not up to the usual quality.
The point of Criticism is to think hard about the piece and to point out every small thing that bothers. It is the fine details that make or break a piece. You need to think hard about a piece to avoid just posting an emotional response and think deeper about why it makes you feel one way or other. "its good/its crap" is useless without saying why the good piece could be better or what in the crap piece works. I actually like this piece, and Strypes work in general. In the future I will be keeping the knee jerk responses like the first bit. The last bit should have been re-worded I admit, and the only reason I posted as I did is an attempt at tough love but it comes across as more bitching then anything.
Though they're being harsh on lulz, they bring up a lot of good points. There's no sham in getting criticism - how else can people get better if they're not shown where they need to improve? You may considered yourself a professional, but even professionals admit they have things they still need to learn and improve on :)
I'll admit, there were a few fuckups, but the customer's happy with the piece, so as far as I'm concerned, that's all that matters. I'm constantly trying to do better, but these fuckers seem to demand no less than absolute perfection, and heaven forbid I screw up a little. I'm far from perfect, but it's shit like this that drives me up the fucking wall.
Despite the rather low opinion I have for the denizens of that hive of scum and villainy, the criticisms have bugged me all day, and when I work on my next pic, I'm probably gonna revise over and over until I feel it's right, which will slow me down even more...which means they'll probably bitch more, which doesn't help. I'll give my pics my best effort I can muster, but if I keep redrawing over and over until it's "perfect" I'll never get shit done. And don't give me that "don't take any more commissions" line, because I don't have much of a choice, as I've got a roof to keep over my head and mouths to feed.
And that's all I'm gonna say.
Despite the rather low opinion I have for the denizens of that hive of scum and villainy, the criticisms have bugged me all day, and when I work on my next pic, I'm probably gonna revise over and over until I feel it's right, which will slow me down even more...which means they'll probably bitch more, which doesn't help. I'll give my pics my best effort I can muster, but if I keep redrawing over and over until it's "perfect" I'll never get shit done. And don't give me that "don't take any more commissions" line, because I don't have much of a choice, as I've got a roof to keep over my head and mouths to feed.
And that's all I'm gonna say.
If this is how they do performance reviews at the company. I can only imagine that hostile take overs are brutal a massacre.
Heavily armed tactical teams entering through the skylight. Everyone in the boardroom is cut down in a hail of automatic weapons fire before Mr. Big walks in to deliver the coup de grace to the former CEO.
Heavily armed tactical teams entering through the skylight. Everyone in the boardroom is cut down in a hail of automatic weapons fire before Mr. Big walks in to deliver the coup de grace to the former CEO.
it's funny how his secretary does the dirty work . rule number one of being a succesful gangster / buisnessman . never do things that will get you locked up in jail for a very long time-get some other mug to do it for you . i'll bet that he has allready framed her and she is dumb enough to believe that she is his untouchable sidekick
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