remember bronies? them wild sons of guns loved horses.
crimson (not real name) was a batpony but ALSO got turned into a vampire because we're doubling the fuck UP on this shit. vampire batpony, fuck you. yes she drinks blood.
her special talent was poetry but then she fucking died 40 years ago, but you make do, you know?
didn't think i'd ever draw Pony again but here we are
finally gave in and watched some of the final season after bouncing off it hard in season 8 and was left with a lot of Too Many Feelings
as well as playing ponyvania with the batpony update and my persistent ever-present vampire obsession,
decided fuck it cringe is dead and we'll all be dead soon too. post-season-9 vampire pony X twilight sparkle fixit fic slash hurt/comfort fic where a vampire who ended up as one of celestia's side-projects pre-twilight and has been secretly serving equestria for decades ends up being assigned to twilight when she becomes the sole monarch and together they uncover celestia's fucked up scheme where she created a place called ponyville and manipulated generations of memetics to produce the elements of harmony while running a separate breeding project to create alicorns which resulted in cadance and twilight
and coming to terms with realizing your entire life was decided for you by powerful outside forces
releasing never
crimson (not real name) was a batpony but ALSO got turned into a vampire because we're doubling the fuck UP on this shit. vampire batpony, fuck you. yes she drinks blood.
her special talent was poetry but then she fucking died 40 years ago, but you make do, you know?
didn't think i'd ever draw Pony again but here we are
finally gave in and watched some of the final season after bouncing off it hard in season 8 and was left with a lot of Too Many Feelings
as well as playing ponyvania with the batpony update and my persistent ever-present vampire obsession,
decided fuck it cringe is dead and we'll all be dead soon too. post-season-9 vampire pony X twilight sparkle fixit fic slash hurt/comfort fic where a vampire who ended up as one of celestia's side-projects pre-twilight and has been secretly serving equestria for decades ends up being assigned to twilight when she becomes the sole monarch and together they uncover celestia's fucked up scheme where she created a place called ponyville and manipulated generations of memetics to produce the elements of harmony while running a separate breeding project to create alicorns which resulted in cadance and twilight
and coming to terms with realizing your entire life was decided for you by powerful outside forces
releasing never
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I've always liked your Celestia conspiracy theories, and I like getting to completely unspool Twilight! She's such a diligent student & so PROUD of it, it can be grating that she never has to experience a real pitfall of it all ...
she unravels over such mild circumstances in canon and the concept of like, failure to her master,
but imagine if serving the master at all was a kind of failure. Isn't blind trust in authority figures a total intellectual flop? Surely you've read BOOKS on this, Twilight.......
I like the visual of a manic vampire batpony foil to take her on such an adventure~ like, the antithesis to the persona Twilight's cultivated, but ultimately this rat was allowed a similar position of utility. So that's already like, a lot to process.
I wonder what Luna's position on all of this is too....
PS. I just like to see ferals, be they pony or otherwise (:
she unravels over such mild circumstances in canon and the concept of like, failure to her master,
but imagine if serving the master at all was a kind of failure. Isn't blind trust in authority figures a total intellectual flop? Surely you've read BOOKS on this, Twilight.......
I like the visual of a manic vampire batpony foil to take her on such an adventure~ like, the antithesis to the persona Twilight's cultivated, but ultimately this rat was allowed a similar position of utility. So that's already like, a lot to process.
I wonder what Luna's position on all of this is too....
PS. I just like to see ferals, be they pony or otherwise (:
it's going to be basically one giant thing of me dealing emotionally with the consequences of the celestia conspiracy theories which are not theories they are OBVIOUS and BLATANT
but yeah you GET IT you GET IT!!!
even if she enjoys her life and is proud of what she's done how do you deal with knowing your entire life--generations of lives before yours--were constructed and manipulated? that when you sang "I want to be a part of the plan" on the castle balcony celestia was hiding it from you, smiling at you the entire time, knowing the "plan" was she was going to retire soon and foist all of equestria onto this pony she raised from foalhood for this single purpose?
also don't you think it's fucked up luna, after like, a few years of coming back and finally getting the recognition and love she always wanted from her subjects... decides it's time to retire, too?
do you think maybe after 1000 years of missing her sister maybe celestia forced luna into retirement because luna's the prize she worked 1000 years to recover and she wants to enjoy it???
and yeah i MISS drawing ferals i forgot how much fun it is
but yeah you GET IT you GET IT!!!
even if she enjoys her life and is proud of what she's done how do you deal with knowing your entire life--generations of lives before yours--were constructed and manipulated? that when you sang "I want to be a part of the plan" on the castle balcony celestia was hiding it from you, smiling at you the entire time, knowing the "plan" was she was going to retire soon and foist all of equestria onto this pony she raised from foalhood for this single purpose?
also don't you think it's fucked up luna, after like, a few years of coming back and finally getting the recognition and love she always wanted from her subjects... decides it's time to retire, too?
do you think maybe after 1000 years of missing her sister maybe celestia forced luna into retirement because luna's the prize she worked 1000 years to recover and she wants to enjoy it???
and yeah i MISS drawing ferals i forgot how much fun it is
while non-ferals are fun now n again I do always feel a bit like they are 4 (or more) broomsticks attached to a flour sack base... somehow manipulating the feral body is so much funner. Especially for something with such a vast and expressive wrist like a horse! Pointing your HOOF or WRIST at someone, bowing on HOOF or WRIST or entire leg folded completely? I dunno, it feels so infinite....... come back to hooooooonse honse is good I prommy....
In your theory of the world I would assume that Celestia ALLOWED or ENCOURAGED the celebration of Nightmare Night or whatever, a holiday which fully demonized her sister into a boogeyman, in order for Luna's return to equestria to mean her fully properly alienated & isolated from society. I can never understand why the great GodQueen allowed everyone to turn her sister's tragic story into a HOLIDAY, some sort of FNAF app for foals to jumpscare each other, but it all makes sense if Celestia feels her sister is her property & doesn't want her pursuing any meaningful personhood or entire life back on equestrian soil. Only grateful for sister forgiveness.....
kinda funny tho if Twilight inadvertently kinda helps with her friendship lessons to like, ingratiate Luna back into society, more than Celestia planned, but really, how much influence could that have on someone really experiencing so many years and such an extent of isolation...? I think Celestia's influence just wins out........... as it always does. hmm...
In your theory of the world I would assume that Celestia ALLOWED or ENCOURAGED the celebration of Nightmare Night or whatever, a holiday which fully demonized her sister into a boogeyman, in order for Luna's return to equestria to mean her fully properly alienated & isolated from society. I can never understand why the great GodQueen allowed everyone to turn her sister's tragic story into a HOLIDAY, some sort of FNAF app for foals to jumpscare each other, but it all makes sense if Celestia feels her sister is her property & doesn't want her pursuing any meaningful personhood or entire life back on equestrian soil. Only grateful for sister forgiveness.....
kinda funny tho if Twilight inadvertently kinda helps with her friendship lessons to like, ingratiate Luna back into society, more than Celestia planned, but really, how much influence could that have on someone really experiencing so many years and such an extent of isolation...? I think Celestia's influence just wins out........... as it always does. hmm...
see and i don't think c-less is actually EVIL
like, why did the princess who rules equestria have a school for unicorns that she personally taught? obviously she was trying to create a replacement which ended up being twilight
but clearly she wouldn't have FORCED anypony into it. twilight's just the one that ended up working, you know?
like okay look at it
here's twilight, celestia's personal student
and her brother just HAPPENS to be dating the other alicorn princess who just HAPPENS to be the reincarnation of the crystal empress (which i'm sure celestia spent a LONG time arranging things so that would occur), and that reincarnation was your BABY SITTER?
OBVIOUSLY celestia set it up like that. it's a trope! you fall in love with your little sister's babysitter! celestia SET THIS UP so that flurryheart would be born
she didn't FORCE them to BREED but she DID arrange the situation most likely to cause her desires to happen
oh look all the other mane 6 come from around ponyville, a POTEMKIN VILLAGE celestia probably founded and manipulated over centuries to ensure it produced ponies likely to embody the elements. by focusing her generational memetic cultivation in ponyville she can maximize output while minimizing external variables and even if it's ponies who come to live in ponyville LATER, they'l still be affected by the memetic structures she's used ponyville to create
because manehattan still is like NYC you know? ponies there aren't likely to produce the elements. all the mane 6 minus twilight are either FROM ponvyille or have spent a large amount of their lives LIVING there
it isn't like c-less is EVILY setting it up but she REALLY is
so like with LUNA NIGHTHORSE
i absolutely think it was done for SEVERAL reasons to make nightmare moon into this. some of it was just to make it into a myth because it was important for twilight to "accidentally" discover it and not be believed because it was her first test of leadership to lead ponies against what turns out was just like the boogiemare in-world. by doing this it also means that the first pony luna can come to after being rescued HAS to be celestia. it gives celestia the maximum amount of time to frontload manipulation into luna until she's confident enough to go out into the world and redefine herself--but only after celestia has been given a chance to socialize her and reset her own sense of self first
which isn't even evil by necessity because luna WAS dangerous and celestia DOES need to make sure she can trust and control luna!!
like, why did the princess who rules equestria have a school for unicorns that she personally taught? obviously she was trying to create a replacement which ended up being twilight
but clearly she wouldn't have FORCED anypony into it. twilight's just the one that ended up working, you know?
like okay look at it
here's twilight, celestia's personal student
and her brother just HAPPENS to be dating the other alicorn princess who just HAPPENS to be the reincarnation of the crystal empress (which i'm sure celestia spent a LONG time arranging things so that would occur), and that reincarnation was your BABY SITTER?
OBVIOUSLY celestia set it up like that. it's a trope! you fall in love with your little sister's babysitter! celestia SET THIS UP so that flurryheart would be born
she didn't FORCE them to BREED but she DID arrange the situation most likely to cause her desires to happen
oh look all the other mane 6 come from around ponyville, a POTEMKIN VILLAGE celestia probably founded and manipulated over centuries to ensure it produced ponies likely to embody the elements. by focusing her generational memetic cultivation in ponyville she can maximize output while minimizing external variables and even if it's ponies who come to live in ponyville LATER, they'l still be affected by the memetic structures she's used ponyville to create
because manehattan still is like NYC you know? ponies there aren't likely to produce the elements. all the mane 6 minus twilight are either FROM ponvyille or have spent a large amount of their lives LIVING there
it isn't like c-less is EVILY setting it up but she REALLY is
so like with LUNA NIGHTHORSE
i absolutely think it was done for SEVERAL reasons to make nightmare moon into this. some of it was just to make it into a myth because it was important for twilight to "accidentally" discover it and not be believed because it was her first test of leadership to lead ponies against what turns out was just like the boogiemare in-world. by doing this it also means that the first pony luna can come to after being rescued HAS to be celestia. it gives celestia the maximum amount of time to frontload manipulation into luna until she's confident enough to go out into the world and redefine herself--but only after celestia has been given a chance to socialize her and reset her own sense of self first
which isn't even evil by necessity because luna WAS dangerous and celestia DOES need to make sure she can trust and control luna!!
this all sounds like the talk of someone still struggling with sychophantic impulses of justification from years under Big Celestia......
if all of this is manipulated, who is to say those dangers she allegedly must contain & control are not of her own creation or fostering, somehow? How responsible was she early on in her rule, as a sister? How early was that rule EVEN??? how deep does it go? so Luna must be subjugated and beguiled as she's a force too risky to be trusted with uninterrupted autonomy or will ...................... says who ? the only firsthand source we have on their history, CELESTIA?????? Can we get some more perspectives, ARE there more perspectives?? We live in a history written by the winners and the winner is only celestia .... this is not journalistic investigation ... I can't engage on the level of her own narrative. this reality she's invented is only the real one insofar as it is believed ... IIII don't know if it's justifiable ...
Well, I'm curious how Crimson & Twilight's perspectives or emotional journeys would differ when dealing with the informations. Both might be fraught in their own ways, or struggle with levels of justification, or acceptance, and maybe not even in a linear way. I would like to see more myself (: personally.
I promise the bias is horse horse horse if it helps.
if all of this is manipulated, who is to say those dangers she allegedly must contain & control are not of her own creation or fostering, somehow? How responsible was she early on in her rule, as a sister? How early was that rule EVEN??? how deep does it go? so Luna must be subjugated and beguiled as she's a force too risky to be trusted with uninterrupted autonomy or will ...................... says who ? the only firsthand source we have on their history, CELESTIA?????? Can we get some more perspectives, ARE there more perspectives?? We live in a history written by the winners and the winner is only celestia .... this is not journalistic investigation ... I can't engage on the level of her own narrative. this reality she's invented is only the real one insofar as it is believed ... IIII don't know if it's justifiable ...
Well, I'm curious how Crimson & Twilight's perspectives or emotional journeys would differ when dealing with the informations. Both might be fraught in their own ways, or struggle with levels of justification, or acceptance, and maybe not even in a linear way. I would like to see more myself (: personally.
I promise the bias is horse horse horse if it helps.
right now i'm stuck on if i think it would be more interesting to have crimson and twilight meet before celestia abdicates, so that it can build to a confrontation with celestia and deal with the mane 6 and cadance and shining armor ALL realizing their lives have been orchestrated and being able to HAVE that catharsis,
or if it's more poignant if twilight only figures this out after it's all far, far too late
the first one lends itself to much more narrative Things Going On but the other has a sort of inability to get a conclusive answer and the frustration of life
it's a hard choice to make ngl
or if it's more poignant if twilight only figures this out after it's all far, far too late
the first one lends itself to much more narrative Things Going On but the other has a sort of inability to get a conclusive answer and the frustration of life
it's a hard choice to make ngl
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