Ok... well, with the help of Ariana i've put together a comparison of UK and US school years/grades so anyone can see how they line up. Damn.... if i was in the US i would have finished school as a Junior...
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Something like that. But you guys also don't get much in the way of breaks between classes. We get 15 minutes in the morning an hour for lunch and 15 minutes in the afternoon. So two classes (or double period) then a break
Plus the whole fact that we can basically waltz through school, failing at every turn and still come out at the end without being held back or anything.
Something like that. But you guys also don't get much in the way of breaks between classes. We get 15 minutes in the morning an hour for lunch and 15 minutes in the afternoon. So two classes (or double period) then a break
Plus the whole fact that we can basically waltz through school, failing at every turn and still come out at the end without being held back or anything.
. . . You school system pisses me off, mate.
Seriously, we got no breaks, we had 6 minutes to get from one class to the other, 25 minutes for lunch (Which if you were unlucky enough to get 3rd or 4th, you barely got any good food), and the only considered break time was a sort of free period, but that was still used for work.
Seriously, we got no breaks, we had 6 minutes to get from one class to the other, 25 minutes for lunch (Which if you were unlucky enough to get 3rd or 4th, you barely got any good food), and the only considered break time was a sort of free period, but that was still used for work.
Yeah, no kidding. I don't think we'd have half of the educational inadequacies if they'd hammer down on the lax attitude to schooling. I understand kids do need a mental break but at the same time letting a child go through the whole of school flunking everything isn't very productive to the future of society. I prefer the US method. Considering that Ariana has an 8 year old that could out do the intelligence of one of our 10/11 year olds... that's saying something.
Er.... when you put it that way... honestly though, I barely learned anything from straight education. I picked up on stuff by reading on the net and in textbooks. Though, I get what you're saying. And 8 year old beating a 11 year old... *giggles* I'm sorry, I just kind of find that funny.
hehe yeah. I mean put it this way. When i reached the age of 20 i had the educational level of a sophmore. School was just not that heavy on good teaching. by the time i'm 26 (now) i've learned more myself in the past 6 years than i ever have in School. Sure they taught me basic math etc. But at the end of the day the methods implemented were so loose and forgiving, where was the incentive to actually learn?
Your system: Well if you fail these classes you'll get held back a year to complete them
Our system: Well if you fail these classes...screw it, welcome to the next year.
Your system: Well if you fail these classes you'll get held back a year to complete them
Our system: Well if you fail these classes...screw it, welcome to the next year.
That's rough, but the opposite isn't much better. When my parent's were in high school, the stuff they taught me in freshman year was college material.
And it's a little wrong on the last bit. Fail a year hard enough, or fail twice, and they kick you out of school, and you get no education.
And it's a little wrong on the last bit. Fail a year hard enough, or fail twice, and they kick you out of school, and you get no education.
This is true. Education should be based solely on the learning abilities and levels of the student. Not the mass grade. Work with their strengths but try to keep them on track with their weaknesses. Learning should be very personal.
I can understand that last bit. Why waste time and money on a student that isn't going anywhere. But again there's another incentive since well.. look at the job market for anyone without a GED store assistants. car washers. street cleaners etc etc. all the crap end jobs that have to be done just to survive. Who really wants that? living penny-less without having a life at all. It's a harsh life that no one should really have to go through. but i guess some just don't think about that.
I can understand that last bit. Why waste time and money on a student that isn't going anywhere. But again there's another incentive since well.. look at the job market for anyone without a GED store assistants. car washers. street cleaners etc etc. all the crap end jobs that have to be done just to survive. Who really wants that? living penny-less without having a life at all. It's a harsh life that no one should really have to go through. but i guess some just don't think about that.
hell... then again.... I didn't.. But i made the choice to evolve myself into something smarter than a sea urchin munching on the last dregs from a mossy rock.... actually... I think i've realised what the system here forces people to do...
The people that leave school early and don't learn anything end up getting the jobs that no one really wants.
Where as the people that want to learn, that want to get a good job and focus on improving themselves are left with being able to find the more important jobs out there.
screw it. The system still sucks :P
The people that leave school early and don't learn anything end up getting the jobs that no one really wants.
Where as the people that want to learn, that want to get a good job and focus on improving themselves are left with being able to find the more important jobs out there.
screw it. The system still sucks :P
Something like that. But you guys also don't get much in the way of breaks between classes. We get 15 minutes in the morning an hour for lunch and 15 minutes in the afternoon. So two classes (or double period) then a break
Plus the whole fact that we can basically waltz through school, failing at every turn and still come out at the end without being held back or anything.
Plus the whole fact that we can basically waltz through school, failing at every turn and still come out at the end without being held back or anything.
It varies from school to school, but all the ones I've encountered 1-6 were elementary and 7-8 were Jr. High. This is from both when I attended school (small town in Missouri) and where my son attends (suburbs in Georgia) right now.
Although, one of the local schools where I attended kinda switched things around a little and 5-6th grades had a more Jr. High style of classes, while still being taught in the same building as the elementary students. So I guess it varies a bit everywhere. This list was just what Draze and I know personally, but that's not to say it isn't different elsewhere.
Although, one of the local schools where I attended kinda switched things around a little and 5-6th grades had a more Jr. High style of classes, while still being taught in the same building as the elementary students. So I guess it varies a bit everywhere. This list was just what Draze and I know personally, but that's not to say it isn't different elsewhere.
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