this is just.. i love you

; o; the idea isn't mine though

let me guess, once it got trapped, do you plan to release them far far away from your home ?

; 3 ; well I would have to go to a park or something
because there are a lot of apartment around here

i see

For a sec I was like, "Oooh, is that a paper shredder?"

adsffadsafds nooooo

Um as strange as this sounds put a banana peel in it... its got a strong enough smell that it will entice a mouse. (thats how I accidentally found my missing pet mouse in my garbage in my room after my brother put a banana peel in it when he shouldnt have)

; a ; I don't have any banana

Hope that the mouse gets safely caught.

Did you try a live mouse trap yet?

not yet.
I didn't have time today

I got one from the hardware store, they are pretty neat. It is like a tiny gray box with a trap door. you puts deh peanut butter in one end and when the mousy crawls in to eats it, his weight tips the scale and the door shuts behind him. Then you got your self a live mousy! =D

But make sure you remove all the traps if you plan to leave the house for an extended time, I went on vacation for a week and when I got back the mousy, well, it didn't move no mores. o.o

awee ; 3 ;
I don't have that near here, but there is an exterminator, they might have that.

you should buy a cage and keep it as a pet! I hear they make good pets!

; 3 ; I set it free.
I don't think keeping wild animals as pets is really a good idea
mosty because they could make me sick if they bite me.

Well, he is living at your house and eating your food for free, might as well show him to his new room. I mean the first domesticated mousies had to come from some wilder mousy, right?

; o ; but they were living in the wild at first...
if they're born in a cage, I can keep them in one...

Maybe.. if you caught them... then has them breed in cage... you could keep the babies and let the parents go free? =D

; o ; would have been an idea!

Past tense! Hope they don't breed like hamster do o.o

- 3 - they're allowed to, they're outside

That just means more will find their way in!

- v -

.....a PEST mouse makes a good pet?
Hahaha. ahahaha nooo.

If you wanna get a good pet mouse, buy one from the pet store :\

But the first pet mouse had to come from the wild, did it not?

There's a MASSIVE difference between taking a wild mouse, shoving it in a cage, calling it a pet [which will last about.... 5 seconds before that mouse bolts out between the bars] and domesticating FANCY MICE [aka not deer mice, house mice or field mice] for pet use.
You know the first reference to pet mice was 1700 BC? :) Yeah, a wild mouse is not a pet and they're also covered in mites, fleas and diseases.

But, my point being, it had to start some where. Who is to say a "pet" mouse won't bolt like a wild mouse would? I mean, what's the difference between the two a nice bubble bath won't fix?

Because I've done it before. It lasted [literally, no exaggeration] about 3 seconds before it escaped.

Did you try a sealed plastic cage? And how can a wild mouse escape so easily from a cage a "pet" mouse can't?

That would be torture for the mouse. Why would I want to force it into a situation like that? [I had only put it in the cage to look at it for a bit]

& fancy[pet] mice are larger than pest-mice.

Wouldn't it just be as much torture for the "pet" mouse as well?

No, because pet mice/rats are domesticated and therefore willingly seek out human contact.
Wild mice do not and this is what separates a domesticated animal from a wild animal.

If that be the case, then why do "pet" mice always try to get out of their cage and hide while wild mice also try to get into our homes?

They probably get out [it's not hard for a mouse to squeeze out of a small area] and get scared of the huge people walking around.

Wild mice try to get into our homes to eat our food. They don't want to snuggle with us.

But all my cages are squeeze proof. How do we know they don't want to snuggle unless we try? Lol, one time I dropped a grape on the floor and a second before I was able to pick it up a mouse ran by and snatched it up out of my fingers.

Because mice will run away as soon as you look at them.
If you really want to torment a mouse and possibly give it a heart attack, go ahead.

You can give a mouse a heart attack by looking at it? I stared at one looking at me from across the room for a few minutes and it didn't die.

No, if you grab a wild mouse, put it in the cage and grab it/try to hold it/stand around and above the cage, youre gonna scare the crap out of it

That is why you put a little tiny wooden house for it to hide in until it get comfortable around you. If i can teach a wild squirrel to come into my house and get out of his food dish, I think I can handle a new pet mouse.

If you desperately want a pet mouse, you can buy one for a couple $$ at Petsmart.

Plus, how do you know that by catching and keeping the mouse, you didn't just starve ~10 babies?

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Seeing how your alternative would be to set her free outside would also result in the death of 10 babies, I don't see a different. This way she can't get back in and have 10 more dead babies.

Nah i don't set em free
I kill em.
I don't like pest mice so I don't care if pest-babies die.

Well you can have fun with your fleas, Hantavirus, Leptospirosis and other diseases caught from mice, mice urine/feces, etc.

Then why would you try to hold me to that moral standard?

...What moral standard?

Well, if they come into your mouse, your going to get those things any way, why not have them in a controlled environment? Besides, whats stopping "pet" mice from having the same things?

OH, my apologies, it;s been a couple days

& because you seem to care about pest mice for some reason. You seem to care enough about them to want to be friends with them.
I don't care about them. I want them all dead.

Well, if I let them hang out in my pantry [which I dont]

The reason why pets [of any kind, cats, dogs, etc] don't have the diseases and parasites that wild animals do is because they're pets, and not wild animals.

Yeah, it is like i went threw some crazy time warp and lost a few days.

I just want to love and befriend every thing. If it is dead, it is gone forever, no fun in that.

But I imagine they are not immune to those things and can be carriers too.

Wel... what if you're dead from diseases contracted from pest mice? ;P No comin back from that mistake you know.
Personally, the health of my pets and family is 200x more important than the health of a pest mouse ripping holes in a bag of pasta.

http://pet-mice.com/mice_as_pets/index_03.php

don't they have cures for those things now? Also, it is your bag of pasta's fault, setting on that shelf for day taunting them with it's dry deliciousness. It is like entrapment for them! O_O That is why I seal all my dry foods in plastic bins so they won't be tempted by it. It is safe and neat that way. =)

It also sounds like nice will make a great pet!

They have vaccinations for pets for various illnesses, yes.

My dad like.. hoards pasta, we have so much of it that it's impossible to put it all in plastic bins. :(

& yes, mice make great pets :) They're less social than rats though.. probably due to their small size, but rats make amazing pets. They're the best small-pet in my opinion.

Better then hamsters?

Definitely.

Oh, those are fighting words, good sir! >=O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhO-qMeMjtA

Man is that thing ever ugly

Rats can be taught tricks, can be walked and get very attached to their owners [almost like a dog]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8_7EV4VZE
Right out of the box from a PetSmart, clingin and climbin all over the guy ahah

I think your point is mute then the guy defending the rats is going to kill them after the video is over. That is like the butcher saying "Cows make great pets, but don't get to attached." Got any videos of people defending rats where the rats don't immediately die afterwards?

Ohh he was just talking about how rats make good pets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9obeBIJJKRs&feature=related
My rats used to do that all the time.

Well, they do seem to make good pets, but I'm not sure if they make better pets then hamsters.

I've owned both and I can say 200% that they are friendlier, snugglier, more athletic and funner to watch than hamsters. All my hamster used to do was chill in his cage in the day sleeping and run like crazy at night.
My rats would run to the door of their cage if they saw me, I'd let em out adn they'd chase me as I walked around, trying to climb up my pantlegs. If you do plan on buying a small pet, I definitely suggest choosing rats.

Not to mention they'd torment my cats by biting them if they tried to fuck w/ em, so whenever I'd let them out on the floor they'd chase the cats around

did they ever bite you before?

Nope! Never, though I've had my hamster bite me before

Hamsters can sense evil.

That's because they radiate it

Chance are that hamster is probably dead by now. >.> Natural causes or caused by you, we may never know.

hahah yeah, he escaped from his cage during the night and we had two cats at the time. I haven't seen or heard from him since. That was way back when I was a kid

Speaking of mice.. I saw another in my food last night. I almost grabbed him but he jumped and disappeared

I actually had a hamster that escaped from his cage and disappeared for over a year. Then one day when I was going to school I seen him running across the living room floor. At the time I had no cage for him so I put him in a crayon box and took him to school with me. The teacher took him from me and put him in the school lab in one of their cages. They said I can have him back at the end of the year. So, when the end of the year came I asked for him back but they refused saying I had nothing to hold him with. And to this day, I never forgave my middle school for stealing my hamster! I think they just wanted one of their own but where to cheap to spring for the $5 and stole mine instead.

Woahh what the fuck, that's cruel of them! :(

I know, right! O_O From then on I swore my life to defending hamsters every where!