Seems like the insect world is getting even for my slaying of the wolfspider with my accidental butt-fu. Two nights later, I awoke covered with bites on my feet, legs, hands and arms. The bites are ignoring my hydrocortizone cream and swelling into such massive inflammations, they're downright painful. I'm gonna have to do a lot of walking tomorrow - I can only hope they'll have gone down a bit by then....
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I returned from work one day and lay down on my bed, turning on the light next to it. I noticed the inside of the lampshade was all webbed up (as it hadn'r been when I left) and figured something had hatched somewhere... no big deal. I'd clean it up later because I was tired. Then I laid back on my bed, looking up along the wall towards the ceiling. And they both appeared to be moving.
Apparently my room had been the site of spider fornication for a long time, and THOUSANDS of them had hatched all at once. They had coated the entire wall near the head of my bed, the ceiling was crawling with them and they were just about everywhere else. Later, during the rather frantic clean up, I pulled a poster on my wall off, heard an odd ripping sound, and had this HUGE mother spider leap up from her group of hatchlings and glare at me (the only thing I could call it). I set her on fire with a lighter. That was also the last time I had posters on my walls; apparently the spiders had been using the space behind them as breeding grounds.
Apparently my room had been the site of spider fornication for a long time, and THOUSANDS of them had hatched all at once. They had coated the entire wall near the head of my bed, the ceiling was crawling with them and they were just about everywhere else. Later, during the rather frantic clean up, I pulled a poster on my wall off, heard an odd ripping sound, and had this HUGE mother spider leap up from her group of hatchlings and glare at me (the only thing I could call it). I set her on fire with a lighter. That was also the last time I had posters on my walls; apparently the spiders had been using the space behind them as breeding grounds.
Well, I lived very close to a set of woods, so there were lots of bugs in the area. The more bugs, the more spiders breed nearby. I also had a very well tended yard, so there were a lot of places for them to breed as well around the house. If you're in a fairly developed area with more cement than forest, I doubt this would happen to you.
But if you DO tend to get a lot of spiders in your home, here's some tips.
Spray long lasting bug spray on the screens in your windows and along your windowsills. It kills them as they try to get inside. Also spray all around the doorjamb to your room. Seal off your place as well as you can. Spray any place you think they might lurk also, taking care to remember not to pollute your stuff.
Pull all that old stuff you have piled someplace out and just glance through it. If you see webbing or suchlike, you probably have some of them around, and you can take the time to clean out. Spiders like places that don't get disturbed, so if you dust and move things around every once in a while it stops them from populating.
If you see webs anywhere in your room or house, clean them immediately and watch for more. If they seem to come back right away, then you have a problem, and might want to use some of the bug spray in those places. Especially check in places up near the ceiling along the walls.
Spiders, to a certain extent are a GOOD thing. But I prefer to have them live outside, not in my room with me; they sometimes get this idea that humans are some kind of edible landscape, like they did with Karno here.
But if you DO tend to get a lot of spiders in your home, here's some tips.
Spray long lasting bug spray on the screens in your windows and along your windowsills. It kills them as they try to get inside. Also spray all around the doorjamb to your room. Seal off your place as well as you can. Spray any place you think they might lurk also, taking care to remember not to pollute your stuff.
Pull all that old stuff you have piled someplace out and just glance through it. If you see webbing or suchlike, you probably have some of them around, and you can take the time to clean out. Spiders like places that don't get disturbed, so if you dust and move things around every once in a while it stops them from populating.
If you see webs anywhere in your room or house, clean them immediately and watch for more. If they seem to come back right away, then you have a problem, and might want to use some of the bug spray in those places. Especially check in places up near the ceiling along the walls.
Spiders, to a certain extent are a GOOD thing. But I prefer to have them live outside, not in my room with me; they sometimes get this idea that humans are some kind of edible landscape, like they did with Karno here.
People are a source of heat. So, beds or sleeping bags if you're camping are places that are attractive to critters (spiders, snakes, cold blooded critters in general). And when you toss and turn when sleep; the critter thinks you're attacking them or it just upsets them like &^%$ crazy and they bit you out of rage. (sleep rage??) Shoes and cloths are not warm when a human is not in them. But, some critters think they are objects of protection, not just us humans. And that's why some campers shake out their shoes before putting them on after a nights sleep. To make sure rattle snakes, black widow spiders, scorpions and such did not use them during the night.
So DracosBlackwing has some good advice here. For keeping homes clear of spiders. animals that are not domesticated, should be kept out of peoples homes. It keeps them and us safe from each others rage, anger, etc.
thank you DracoBlackwing for the tips.
So DracosBlackwing has some good advice here. For keeping homes clear of spiders. animals that are not domesticated, should be kept out of peoples homes. It keeps them and us safe from each others rage, anger, etc.
thank you DracoBlackwing for the tips.
I think you might want to have a look at this instead :3
Fair warning, it aint for the squeamish :/
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/slideshow-bad-bugs
Fair warning, it aint for the squeamish :/
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/slideshow-bad-bugs
My cure for all poisonous bites:
Leeches. No joke. It's a very old way of removing venom from a bite wound imediately. Certain witchdoctors in Africa would attatch a leech and they would begin sucking out both the venom and infected blood. It's not always efficient... And leeches carry other nasty diseases... But the idea makes sense at least
Leeches. No joke. It's a very old way of removing venom from a bite wound imediately. Certain witchdoctors in Africa would attatch a leech and they would begin sucking out both the venom and infected blood. It's not always efficient... And leeches carry other nasty diseases... But the idea makes sense at least
It definitely wasn't the 'dreaded' brown recluse (L. reclusa): The farthest west that they are found isn't even in New Mexico, much less Arizona.
Dreaded is in scare quotes because both the effects and likelihood of their bites have been vastly exaggerated. While they can cause a necrotic wound, that is rare, (most so-called brown recluse bites are actually staph infections), and you almost have to actively antagonize them to get them to bite.
Also, "spider bite" is in many ways a shorthand for "I don't know what happened". This goes double for when it happened with you in bed.
Dreaded is in scare quotes because both the effects and likelihood of their bites have been vastly exaggerated. While they can cause a necrotic wound, that is rare, (most so-called brown recluse bites are actually staph infections), and you almost have to actively antagonize them to get them to bite.
Also, "spider bite" is in many ways a shorthand for "I don't know what happened". This goes double for when it happened with you in bed.
I don't know how to diagnose this. Either you were attacked by a swarm of baby spiders (likely since wolf spider mommas carry their hatchlings on their abdomen), or you had a spidey infestation in your bed.
I got bit by a Daddy-Longlegs spider all over my hand when I was a preteen boy, at my family's vacation cabin in the mountains. Not fun.
I got bit by a Daddy-Longlegs spider all over my hand when I was a preteen boy, at my family's vacation cabin in the mountains. Not fun.
True daddy long legs have no venom, cobweb spiders don't have venom as well. (I study venom at the University of Arizona) one thing i hate the most is stories like that! I have spent 15+ to many years studying the most venomous creatures, giving lectures to students, and finishing Doctoral thesis after thesis to hear that BS! one of my thesis was on the Cobweb spider and the Quote un Quote "Daddy Long leg" (not even a spider, it is in the family of crabs and wood lice)
Sorry Karno, That kind of nonsenses just twists my giblets! The bite on your leg looks like that of a southern house spider. they are very aggressive but not deadly. What state are you located in? That might further help to pin point what sub species.
Hope you feel better and I would get that checked out ASAP. you don't want to come up hot for MRSA or another type of staph infection.
Hugs and
Jess
Sorry Karno, That kind of nonsenses just twists my giblets! The bite on your leg looks like that of a southern house spider. they are very aggressive but not deadly. What state are you located in? That might further help to pin point what sub species.
Hope you feel better and I would get that checked out ASAP. you don't want to come up hot for MRSA or another type of staph infection.
Hugs and
Jess
no some one else made comment that it might have been one. I'm not upset with Karno nor was that intended for him, I was replying to the other guys comment.
Southern AZ, well He is in my neck of the woods then. I'm almost positive that it was a Southern House spider. I have a few in my collection here at my house, nasty little buggers, give a bite very very similar to the one he is showing.
Southern AZ, well He is in my neck of the woods then. I'm almost positive that it was a Southern House spider. I have a few in my collection here at my house, nasty little buggers, give a bite very very similar to the one he is showing.
Well, I can't really diagnose as I'm not a doctor... But having suffered way too many of various things myself, that looks more like something akin to poison oak, or some other type of direct irritation, than a bite.. Either way, keep some ice on it to reduce the swelling, and if at all possible get it checked out before having to move TOO much :(
Keep a close eye on them. My dad got a "harmless" bite on his back from what turned out to be a brown recluse. the venom ate a hole the size of a dime in his back and got infected before he could get to a doc several days after the bite.
It took several weeks to heal up, and would have goten worse without antibiotics.
RGs concern about staph applies too. Be careful.
It took several weeks to heal up, and would have goten worse without antibiotics.
RGs concern about staph applies too. Be careful.
being someone that lives in the Pac Northwest ATM, I know this all too well since this is a haven for spiders.
I would get that checked out since not ONLY does it look infected but it looks like you got bit by a brown recluse which ONLY gets worse, if you let it go it can turn into an abcess..
Good luck man..
I would get that checked out since not ONLY does it look infected but it looks like you got bit by a brown recluse which ONLY gets worse, if you let it go it can turn into an abcess..
Good luck man..
A brown recluse bite would make the tissue become necrotic and if untreated, you could get very ill. My brother in law was bitten by one several times and nearly died after his chest became partially paralyzed. The rash may be an allergic reaction. I would defintly go to see a doctor right away, Karno.
Don't listen to the people trying to scare you with stories of spider bites. Just take care of your rashes the way you would anything and don't get stressed. Getting stressed can make it worse! It looks like you were wearing socks which could easily rule out brown recluse (their fangs just aren't sharp enough to get through clothes. Also you'd have to be in an area where the spiders actually are. Wolf spiders can make bites that look similar to brown recluse, but they're mostly harmless and will be fine in a few days.
i didnt bother taking the time to read everyones post, but it is most definetly not a brown recluse, as a recluse bite begins to necritize within 60 minutes.
however, i would definetly get it looked at, but baring that, i would suggest some clove oil directly on the opening of the bites to close them, and a combination of 3 parts peppermint, 2 parts orange, and 1 part cinnamon extracts mixed together with a tspn of the finest ground salt you can find, and rub that into any spot thats sore or rashing.
it may not stop it, but it will sure as hell help the pain, and will actually reduce the inflamation so a doctor can take a proper look at it, cuz when you get it looked at, they will give you all kinds of shit to drop the inflamation before they will tell you how to fix it, and its better to do that without taking pills, as they toxify your system even more when your body is already fighting spider venom.
note me if you want a more in depth version of that recipe and what its good for, cuz the list is long :D
ps - im a bit of an herbalist lol
however, i would definetly get it looked at, but baring that, i would suggest some clove oil directly on the opening of the bites to close them, and a combination of 3 parts peppermint, 2 parts orange, and 1 part cinnamon extracts mixed together with a tspn of the finest ground salt you can find, and rub that into any spot thats sore or rashing.
it may not stop it, but it will sure as hell help the pain, and will actually reduce the inflamation so a doctor can take a proper look at it, cuz when you get it looked at, they will give you all kinds of shit to drop the inflamation before they will tell you how to fix it, and its better to do that without taking pills, as they toxify your system even more when your body is already fighting spider venom.
note me if you want a more in depth version of that recipe and what its good for, cuz the list is long :D
ps - im a bit of an herbalist lol
Give your area a good once over for likely breeding spaces, and for entrance/exit spaces in the walls and windows and take a proactive approach to things. Also turn everything over and be sure you don't have another round of eggs waiting to get you after you feel like you've gotten everything under control.
How many bites did you suffer from? I hope it's nothing more than irritation.
How many bites did you suffer from? I hope it's nothing more than irritation.
Probably hit something more serious than just skin, like a tendon or small vein/artery. The muscles and such in a foot tend to be closer to the surface. But since it was just spider bites, you *should* be alright.
Once again, as much as you don't hate spiders, they don't hate you either. They think you're delicious! You'd be best off doing some careful hunting of your own before you have to spend another night nursing wounds. And please be careful; a friend of mine got bit by one of those and ended up with a hole in his midsection. They literally removed a chunk of his middle about the size of a melon ball to contain the poison. Fortunately, these had just hatched, so they're more teeth than poison.
Once again, as much as you don't hate spiders, they don't hate you either. They think you're delicious! You'd be best off doing some careful hunting of your own before you have to spend another night nursing wounds. And please be careful; a friend of mine got bit by one of those and ended up with a hole in his midsection. They literally removed a chunk of his middle about the size of a melon ball to contain the poison. Fortunately, these had just hatched, so they're more teeth than poison.
Instead of thinking the worst and taking drastic action, it could in fact just be a bedbug infestation, not a spider infestation. Reading all these comments with people going overboard. Yes, see a doctor, don't panic and think "FFFF, recluse bite, my limbs are gonna fall off". If the anti-itch cream doesn't work, it's most likely an allergic reaction to the bites, which is possible with bedbug bites.
Um, a bedbug infestation _is_ thinking the worst.
Dealing with bedbugs is:
Expensive, (as in: You need to replace this bed, this dresser and this couch.)
Highly disruptive to your life, (it takes two treatments two weeks apart and you have to wash and isolate everything made of fabric in that time).
and worst of all
Not guaranteed to work.
Dealing with bedbugs is:
Expensive, (as in: You need to replace this bed, this dresser and this couch.)
Highly disruptive to your life, (it takes two treatments two weeks apart and you have to wash and isolate everything made of fabric in that time).
and worst of all
Not guaranteed to work.
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