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It's all been hazy on that. As far as I can tell, the 12 Regenrations are fixed unless you do something very very clever (Like the master did after his 12th regeneration, though ultimatly failed)
However, Rassilon, the chap who started the Time Lords, seems to be able to just ignore all rules because... welll because he's Rassilon. He gave the master his regeneratinos back, somehow.
However, Rassilon, the chap who started the Time Lords, seems to be able to just ignore all rules because... welll because he's Rassilon. He gave the master his regeneratinos back, somehow.
Ah, Rassilon. The man who everything is named after, like John Macquarie.
And the idea actually originates from a TvTropes idea of what the "Degradations of Skaro" are. That it's what happens when a Time Lord army gets massacred a lot, (say, near Skaro), the Lords have to regenerate a lot, and... degenerate. Like the Doctor's doing in slowly going more bonkers, so the theory goes. And similarly, the way that the John Simmons version of the Master is nuttier than trail mix similarly comes from him having regenerated about seventeen times.
Besides, they'll never let the series go from something as simple as running out of regenerations. Not when they burned half the remaining ones in so short a time.
And the idea actually originates from a TvTropes idea of what the "Degradations of Skaro" are. That it's what happens when a Time Lord army gets massacred a lot, (say, near Skaro), the Lords have to regenerate a lot, and... degenerate. Like the Doctor's doing in slowly going more bonkers, so the theory goes. And similarly, the way that the John Simmons version of the Master is nuttier than trail mix similarly comes from him having regenerated about seventeen times.
Besides, they'll never let the series go from something as simple as running out of regenerations. Not when they burned half the remaining ones in so short a time.
Aaaactually... we don't really know which regeneration The Master was on during his first appearance. Which was during the 3rd Doctor's exile on Earth.
The Master then disappeared for a while, due to real-world practicalities: Roger Delgado, the actor who originally portrayed The Master, died in a car accident.
The next appearance of The Master was in a 4th Doctor episode. (Interesting trivia: it was the episode after Liz Sladen left the show. The Doctor received, "The Call to Gallifrey," and had to take Sarah-Jane home. Partly, it was due to the danger, and partly, it was due to law (as the 10th Doctor said when he next saw Sarah-Jane, "Aliens weren't allowed on Gallifrey at that time."))
In the episode in question, a dying Master tries to gain control of the Tools of Office of the Lord-President of Gallifrey. Simultaneously, The Master tries to frame the Doctor for the assasination of the previous Lord-President, who was shot just prior to resigning. The Master was in his 13th and final incarnation, and had gone to such extremes to extend the life of this last body that he was practically a mummy. The Master doesn't entirely succeed, but he does manage to heal himself a bit.
This episode introduced several key details about Gallifrey:
* Rassilon
* The Panopticon
(the meeting chamber of the Time Lord government)
* The Colleges, including the Prydonians
(the one that the Doctor, Borussa and the Master belong to)
* Cardinal Borussa
(who would reappear several more times in lead-roles)
* The Matrix
(as the massive database storing the "bio-data extracts" of every Time Lord, as well as the memories of deceased important ones).
* The Eye of Harmony, the power-source of Time Lord civilization
(a captured black-hole and accompanying containment infrastructure, located below the Panopticon)
* The regenerate-12-times limit.
The next time we see The Master, he steals a body. This would be his 14th incarnation.
We see The Master again in that awful TV-movie, wherein he steals yet another body, a short-lived 15ht incarnation. (I wished they'd just forgotten about that crappy movie.)
He's resurrected during the Time War, flees to the far future ... and all of you know the rest.
So, to reiterate: we know next-to-nothing about The Master's 1st through 12th incarnations except for one, the one of his first appearance on the show.
The Master then disappeared for a while, due to real-world practicalities: Roger Delgado, the actor who originally portrayed The Master, died in a car accident.
The next appearance of The Master was in a 4th Doctor episode. (Interesting trivia: it was the episode after Liz Sladen left the show. The Doctor received, "The Call to Gallifrey," and had to take Sarah-Jane home. Partly, it was due to the danger, and partly, it was due to law (as the 10th Doctor said when he next saw Sarah-Jane, "Aliens weren't allowed on Gallifrey at that time."))
In the episode in question, a dying Master tries to gain control of the Tools of Office of the Lord-President of Gallifrey. Simultaneously, The Master tries to frame the Doctor for the assasination of the previous Lord-President, who was shot just prior to resigning. The Master was in his 13th and final incarnation, and had gone to such extremes to extend the life of this last body that he was practically a mummy. The Master doesn't entirely succeed, but he does manage to heal himself a bit.
This episode introduced several key details about Gallifrey:
* Rassilon
* The Panopticon
(the meeting chamber of the Time Lord government)
* The Colleges, including the Prydonians
(the one that the Doctor, Borussa and the Master belong to)
* Cardinal Borussa
(who would reappear several more times in lead-roles)
* The Matrix
(as the massive database storing the "bio-data extracts" of every Time Lord, as well as the memories of deceased important ones).
* The Eye of Harmony, the power-source of Time Lord civilization
(a captured black-hole and accompanying containment infrastructure, located below the Panopticon)
* The regenerate-12-times limit.
The next time we see The Master, he steals a body. This would be his 14th incarnation.
We see The Master again in that awful TV-movie, wherein he steals yet another body, a short-lived 15ht incarnation. (I wished they'd just forgotten about that crappy movie.)
He's resurrected during the Time War, flees to the far future ... and all of you know the rest.
So, to reiterate: we know next-to-nothing about The Master's 1st through 12th incarnations except for one, the one of his first appearance on the show.
Okay, okay, fair enough, there was one appearance of the Master before the point I was starting at.
But expanded universe stuff has mentioned that part of the Time War involved the Time Lords recharging their regeneration cycles many times, to counter the way the Daleks are cloned. And since Ace was intended to become a Time Lady before the series ended in 19...89? Then it's at least possible to make someone from human to Time Lord, meaning Regen cycles and stuff potentially.
Certainly since the Yana Master regenerated into the Saxon Master, he managed to regenerate more times than the standard - more evidence.
But expanded universe stuff has mentioned that part of the Time War involved the Time Lords recharging their regeneration cycles many times, to counter the way the Daleks are cloned. And since Ace was intended to become a Time Lady before the series ended in 19...89? Then it's at least possible to make someone from human to Time Lord, meaning Regen cycles and stuff potentially.
Certainly since the Yana Master regenerated into the Saxon Master, he managed to regenerate more times than the standard - more evidence.
Yeah, the 12-regeneration limit is Rassilon-imposed.
The "Ace becomes a Time Lord" bit ... I recall encountering that someplace, but it's non-canon. It definitely wasn't part of the "Cartmel Master Plan," which was a plot-arc designed to explain the Doctor's past. (Parts of it showed up in 1988-1989 episodes, but those eps. were sufficiently vague that they didn't drastically change things.)
I've come across a lot of other non-canon things online about the Time War. Until it's in an actual episode, it's just speculation. Heck, even the "return of Rassilon" isn't entirely true. The last 10th-Doctor story has a character called, "the Lord President." T. Russel Davies has implied that this particular Lord President is actually Rassilon ... but he never came out and stated so definitively. Mr. Davies is like that (*cough*cough*cough*faceofboe*cough*cough*cough*). Guess he likes to let people speculate.
Still, it does make sense that the Time Lords would "wake up" Rassilon during the Time War and put him in charge (in a "will-arise-during-their-darkest-hour-to-save-his-people" sort of way (which is old and quite widespread throughout Europe, FYI)). And it also makes sense that "the gloves come off" and Gallifreyans can regenerate without limits. To say nothing of the Time Lords manipulating time itself to "unkill" any Gallifreyan lethally injured.
I'd rather think, however, that being repeatedly killed would send a Gallifreyan off the rails, not the number of regenerations per-se. And not only that, but think: you're burning through your lives rapidly; even though you know that there's no longer a limit, culturally, you had "only 12" burned into your brain, so that fear of "running out of lives" is still there; atop this, you're fighting in a war to keep your entire species from being wiped out. And this is what you're facing with every regeneration. You have to go back into the fight after regenerating, because that's the only option for your entire race.
I think this, alone, would be enough to make anyone go more than a bit crazy.
The "Ace becomes a Time Lord" bit ... I recall encountering that someplace, but it's non-canon. It definitely wasn't part of the "Cartmel Master Plan," which was a plot-arc designed to explain the Doctor's past. (Parts of it showed up in 1988-1989 episodes, but those eps. were sufficiently vague that they didn't drastically change things.)
I've come across a lot of other non-canon things online about the Time War. Until it's in an actual episode, it's just speculation. Heck, even the "return of Rassilon" isn't entirely true. The last 10th-Doctor story has a character called, "the Lord President." T. Russel Davies has implied that this particular Lord President is actually Rassilon ... but he never came out and stated so definitively. Mr. Davies is like that (*cough*cough*cough*faceofboe*cough*cough*cough*). Guess he likes to let people speculate.
Still, it does make sense that the Time Lords would "wake up" Rassilon during the Time War and put him in charge (in a "will-arise-during-their-darkest-hour-to-save-his-people" sort of way (which is old and quite widespread throughout Europe, FYI)). And it also makes sense that "the gloves come off" and Gallifreyans can regenerate without limits. To say nothing of the Time Lords manipulating time itself to "unkill" any Gallifreyan lethally injured.
I'd rather think, however, that being repeatedly killed would send a Gallifreyan off the rails, not the number of regenerations per-se. And not only that, but think: you're burning through your lives rapidly; even though you know that there's no longer a limit, culturally, you had "only 12" burned into your brain, so that fear of "running out of lives" is still there; atop this, you're fighting in a war to keep your entire species from being wiped out. And this is what you're facing with every regeneration. You have to go back into the fight after regenerating, because that's the only option for your entire race.
I think this, alone, would be enough to make anyone go more than a bit crazy.
Well, yes. Remember, the Time War was so bad it had to be cordoned off from REALITY.
The idea that every single Time Lord went completely nuts during it is not only implied but essentially canon - the Nightmare Child, the Could-Have-Been King and his armies of Never-Weres; the master plan to end time; The Master was scared off... and it was so bad it drove the Doctor to wipe out his own species, when he was later willing to forgive the Master.
And since the Doctor's words after the link is broken are "Back into the Time War, Rassilon!"... I think he was.
The idea that every single Time Lord went completely nuts during it is not only implied but essentially canon - the Nightmare Child, the Could-Have-Been King and his armies of Never-Weres; the master plan to end time; The Master was scared off... and it was so bad it drove the Doctor to wipe out his own species, when he was later willing to forgive the Master.
And since the Doctor's words after the link is broken are "Back into the Time War, Rassilon!"... I think he was.
Pink Critter: BEST SUSHI EVER!!!!
Red Critter: *NOM!* "MUURUFFUFUMMUR!" (Translation: HAY! MAH SUSHI!!!)
# the fish doesnt say anything cause he is a fish....But if he did he would say somthing profound and life changing cause he is a puffer fish and he roles like that....yeaaaaa thats coooool man...
...
what?!?! Its the caffine!!!
-falls ever
-=G=-
Red Critter: *NOM!* "MUURUFFUFUMMUR!" (Translation: HAY! MAH SUSHI!!!)
# the fish doesnt say anything cause he is a fish....But if he did he would say somthing profound and life changing cause he is a puffer fish and he roles like that....yeaaaaa thats coooool man...
...
what?!?! Its the caffine!!!
-falls ever
-=G=-
"FREAKING
WOODLAND
CRITTERS!"
and where is gold critter also? Lol
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol404.jpg
:)
WOODLAND
CRITTERS!"
and where is gold critter also? Lol
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol404.jpg
:)
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