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Unhinged prototype rambling -Pheesh Adaptives first post
IN CASE IT ISNT CLEAR THIS IS AN OPEN USEABLE STANDARD, FEEL FREE TO MAKE USE OF THIS
I honestly thought it would be a respirator or a movement device that would get me to buck up and pick up a pen after a decade, but no it was this fucking thing, i'm sure soemthign similar has been done before by someone much better than me, but i've been trying to come up with plausible draw ups and write ups for nonmammal sapient assistive devices for a fictional adaptives company for months, and of course somethign WHOLELY unrelated to the main focus or my hyperfixations had to be the first, it's rough, it's shit, and i'm actually kind of proud of it.
But here’s a concept for an in universe Adaptives and assistive devices company’s foray into items for cold blooded sapients.
Partial inspiration is from heated blankets, though engineered to be a lot more efficient than existing ones, and it’s meant to be daily wear for civvies.
The modularity and variance also makes them easily able to be worn by and adjust to many different bodytypes and configs.
I think with what I have here I covered anthros, draconics, ferals, and taurs. Snakes and nagas too.
it's based on how flex PCB heating elements are constructed, in layout and pos/neg separation.
Also when junctions aren't connected the circuit is closed to play the role of a complete heating element circuit.
Cotton or wool being the main fiber construction is the intent, anything plastic or polymer would shed to many fibers and is a melt risk.
Please rip this thing apart, I’m trying to call on all the electrical, thermal, and clothing knowledge I have to produce something workable, and adaptable.
I honestly thought it would be a respirator or a movement device that would get me to buck up and pick up a pen after a decade, but no it was this fucking thing, i'm sure soemthign similar has been done before by someone much better than me, but i've been trying to come up with plausible draw ups and write ups for nonmammal sapient assistive devices for a fictional adaptives company for months, and of course somethign WHOLELY unrelated to the main focus or my hyperfixations had to be the first, it's rough, it's shit, and i'm actually kind of proud of it.
But here’s a concept for an in universe Adaptives and assistive devices company’s foray into items for cold blooded sapients.
Partial inspiration is from heated blankets, though engineered to be a lot more efficient than existing ones, and it’s meant to be daily wear for civvies.
The modularity and variance also makes them easily able to be worn by and adjust to many different bodytypes and configs.
I think with what I have here I covered anthros, draconics, ferals, and taurs. Snakes and nagas too.
it's based on how flex PCB heating elements are constructed, in layout and pos/neg separation.
Also when junctions aren't connected the circuit is closed to play the role of a complete heating element circuit.
Cotton or wool being the main fiber construction is the intent, anything plastic or polymer would shed to many fibers and is a melt risk.
Please rip this thing apart, I’m trying to call on all the electrical, thermal, and clothing knowledge I have to produce something workable, and adaptable.
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Quoted line of questions from one Vahlaurix on discord!!! Posted here because they were really good and I want to put the answers in a reply
“A whole chest casing shell seems like it'd be very in the way for daily life, like bending over to pick up anything. The only thing that really needs protection is the battery.
The battery location is also a little iffy. Front and center like that is bulky and conspicuous. The ribs also bend more than you might think; put a hand on your chest and feel as you lean back and forward. Most personal carry devices put bulk towards a hip from what I've seen. Think everything from a toolbelt to an oxygen tank sling.
Electric clothes are a perpetual design problem.
Sweat, associated salt (if scalies can sweat) is very bad for devices.
Really frequent bending also kills wires / electric insulation lifespan. Replacable connector wires (with tiny environmental shielding cases) and sleeves around relatively static segments seems more viable. (e.g. Separate bicep and forearm sleeves, instead of full-arm.) Or minimizing electronics around joints?
Another major concern is washing. How does the user clean their heatclothes? (Hotclothes?) Dry clean only? Can they take out and and later replace the electrics for a wash? How?
Ideally you'd want the outside to have a degree of thermal shielding since heating only needs to go inward. Thin thermal shields (think the foil blankets first responders carry) aren't that durable. Thick insulators are harder to fit inside other clothes (if relevant) or are thicker than fashionable for less-clothed seasons/settings. But wires can't be too close to the skin to avoid burning / discomfort risks.
For battery life, the biggest I've seen for an electric blanket is about 10 hours on low heat. You'll probably need to reassess battery bulk after that lifespan / usage volume. One pack on each hip? Modular or one setup suits all? Are they all used in sync or does the user cycle them out? Is it a blocky battery to plug in at home? Can it take retail batteries like AA as a stopgap? It'll rip through them, but could save a life.”
“A whole chest casing shell seems like it'd be very in the way for daily life, like bending over to pick up anything. The only thing that really needs protection is the battery.
The battery location is also a little iffy. Front and center like that is bulky and conspicuous. The ribs also bend more than you might think; put a hand on your chest and feel as you lean back and forward. Most personal carry devices put bulk towards a hip from what I've seen. Think everything from a toolbelt to an oxygen tank sling.
Electric clothes are a perpetual design problem.
Sweat, associated salt (if scalies can sweat) is very bad for devices.
Really frequent bending also kills wires / electric insulation lifespan. Replacable connector wires (with tiny environmental shielding cases) and sleeves around relatively static segments seems more viable. (e.g. Separate bicep and forearm sleeves, instead of full-arm.) Or minimizing electronics around joints?
Another major concern is washing. How does the user clean their heatclothes? (Hotclothes?) Dry clean only? Can they take out and and later replace the electrics for a wash? How?
Ideally you'd want the outside to have a degree of thermal shielding since heating only needs to go inward. Thin thermal shields (think the foil blankets first responders carry) aren't that durable. Thick insulators are harder to fit inside other clothes (if relevant) or are thicker than fashionable for less-clothed seasons/settings. But wires can't be too close to the skin to avoid burning / discomfort risks.
For battery life, the biggest I've seen for an electric blanket is about 10 hours on low heat. You'll probably need to reassess battery bulk after that lifespan / usage volume. One pack on each hip? Modular or one setup suits all? Are they all used in sync or does the user cycle them out? Is it a blocky battery to plug in at home? Can it take retail batteries like AA as a stopgap? It'll rip through them, but could save a life.”
My response, also placed here because I wanted the info available
“In order,
battery location is still somewhat up for tweaking but I did consider those things at the time, I was initially going to put it on the back but changed to the front due to how thin and often flexible the front of reptiles often are, leaving more heating elements to the back and in a simple and easily worked around layout designed to emulate heat distribution from basking. Also extra battery units that can separately charge a junction and can be worn elsewhere are planned as well.
Sweat is not something I saw as a potential issue, due to in my mind any reptiles that I imagined using these wouldn’t be one that can swear since reptiles normally DONT, and the main control circuitry itself has thermostat components, once the body absorbing heat reaches a simple threshold it shuts off
That’s the intent with the modular sleeve variety! That simple tube is intended to NEVER cross a joint, if you need an entire limb heated you get separated units in the rough size category to cover the areas between the joints. The only time it could potentially experience bending is if it’s used as a tail sock, but the trace layout is designed with some muscular flexing in mind and there wouldn’t be any sharp bends.
The entire battery containment circuitry is intended to be able to removed, and the junction/traces woven in are simple and do not leave areas of risk, cotton delicate washes are safe but no dryer, air dry only.
Materials construction is definitely going to be an insulating layer outside of either cotton or wool with multitudes of styles and patterns available, no unnecessary synthetics due to shedding of microplastics and no risk of plastic melt, the rough appearance is just for getting the internal circuitry design on paper.
And for battery life firstly the main batteries themselves are hot swappable, they’re not so standard as double AA but they are a LiPo (or more advanced modern replacement) that internally inside the hot swap module uses a simple JST connector, a key and ironclad point is user serviceability, these products WILL be user serviceable”
“In order,
battery location is still somewhat up for tweaking but I did consider those things at the time, I was initially going to put it on the back but changed to the front due to how thin and often flexible the front of reptiles often are, leaving more heating elements to the back and in a simple and easily worked around layout designed to emulate heat distribution from basking. Also extra battery units that can separately charge a junction and can be worn elsewhere are planned as well.
Sweat is not something I saw as a potential issue, due to in my mind any reptiles that I imagined using these wouldn’t be one that can swear since reptiles normally DONT, and the main control circuitry itself has thermostat components, once the body absorbing heat reaches a simple threshold it shuts off
That’s the intent with the modular sleeve variety! That simple tube is intended to NEVER cross a joint, if you need an entire limb heated you get separated units in the rough size category to cover the areas between the joints. The only time it could potentially experience bending is if it’s used as a tail sock, but the trace layout is designed with some muscular flexing in mind and there wouldn’t be any sharp bends.
The entire battery containment circuitry is intended to be able to removed, and the junction/traces woven in are simple and do not leave areas of risk, cotton delicate washes are safe but no dryer, air dry only.
Materials construction is definitely going to be an insulating layer outside of either cotton or wool with multitudes of styles and patterns available, no unnecessary synthetics due to shedding of microplastics and no risk of plastic melt, the rough appearance is just for getting the internal circuitry design on paper.
And for battery life firstly the main batteries themselves are hot swappable, they’re not so standard as double AA but they are a LiPo (or more advanced modern replacement) that internally inside the hot swap module uses a simple JST connector, a key and ironclad point is user serviceability, these products WILL be user serviceable”
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