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This is basically so so much my Mum and Dad. Pretty much from age 18 they were pushing me for grandkids. Then my first partner was female and my parents pretty much mourned the idea that I wouldnt pop out a few sprogs. Then when I got with my husband it was back on with the babymaking factory ideas. Sorry Mum and Dad but as an asexual it really didn't matter what gender my partner might be, the idea of making babies was very off the agenda. Luckily, Like Matt and Jess here, my sisters have all had enough kids to mostly stop the need for me to reproduce
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This is basically so so much my Mum and Dad. Pretty much from age 18 they were pushing me for grandkids. Then my first partner was female and my parents pretty much mourned the idea that I wouldnt pop out a few sprogs. Then when I got with my husband it was back on with the babymaking factory ideas. Sorry Mum and Dad but as an asexual it really didn't matter what gender my partner might be, the idea of making babies was very off the agenda. Luckily, Like Matt and Jess here, my sisters have all had enough kids to mostly stop the need for me to reproduce
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Think more the fact that he's pushing Star to be what HE wants her to be with little regard for her own sentience. Almost like a possession rather than a daughter. Remember how he treated Alex when he came out as gay, just a broken object to throw away. Sad thing is I know many who have parents like that and that's NOT how most fathers and grandfather's are.
On its own it's a one off. Combined with everything else it just adds to the pattern of shit.
On its own it's a one off. Combined with everything else it just adds to the pattern of shit.
Hate is a strong word. A dangerous one. I pity him. His intolerance has already cost him the love of one of his children and the trust of others. His irritating sense of humor I can forgive, because it's not meant in cruelty, but it is his intolerance that may see men like him laying alone in run down nursing home staring at the ceiling with no one to hold his hand when his eyes slip closed.
I always think of the closing of Romeo and Juliette... to slightly paraphrase..
"See you now, what scourge is laid upon hate, that heaven should find means to destroy your joy... With love."
I always think of the closing of Romeo and Juliette... to slightly paraphrase..
"See you now, what scourge is laid upon hate, that heaven should find means to destroy your joy... With love."
I think the part that really gets me about him here is how much misogyny is just hardwired into him on this page. He praises Matt so quickly and then just off handedly adds "...and Jess too" after thinking about it for a moment, like she didn't just do all the hard work of giving birth.
I don't support the misogyny but he isn't wrong, Matt was the one who provided the Y chromosome to produce a male heir but that doesn't excuse anything. He should be thankful for any grandkids he gets instead of essentially force breeding his daughter in law until she produced a son like some ancient European royalty.
But legit carrying a child and giving birth is always called the easy part, and its what comes next that is hard, no one takes into consideration how much a mom sacrifices to mame sure everything about her body is perfect for the baby while she is pregnant and no one takes into consideration the extreme medical issues that can happen to her after she gives birth. Thanks for sticking up for Jess
But legit carrying a child and giving birth is always called the easy part, and its what comes next that is hard, no one takes into consideration how much a mom sacrifices to mame sure everything about her body is perfect for the baby while she is pregnant and no one takes into consideration the extreme medical issues that can happen to her after she gives birth. Thanks for sticking up for Jess
I legit dunno how I do it, maybe its because she was a legit part of me that I just have this weird ass psychic connection to her, and can understand her squeals and grunts, but on the whole I just let the whole monkey brain run the show for me and let her explore the world as she needs.
Kids aren't for everyone and I was a person not wanting them until like 2021, that's when husband and myself talked and decided to do it together, we just wanted someone to share our lives and love with, and we figured a child would be a good fit, and so far yeah she is awesome, her daddy loves her her grandparents love her, heck almost everyone in her life loves her and if they don't then they dont know her lol.
Kids aren't for everyone and I was a person not wanting them until like 2021, that's when husband and myself talked and decided to do it together, we just wanted someone to share our lives and love with, and we figured a child would be a good fit, and so far yeah she is awesome, her daddy loves her her grandparents love her, heck almost everyone in her life loves her and if they don't then they dont know her lol.
Welp here we go, NOW the shit with him is starting properly. God, Jess just pushed a baby out and he has the AUDACITY to speak like that over her.
In any case, Aiden is so cute! Feel bad for Star being forced to hold him, but hopefully she can have a moment to properly meet him without so much pressure. I'm hoping so bad Aiden is gonna turn out trans or nonbinary to spite Peter lmao.
In any case, Aiden is so cute! Feel bad for Star being forced to hold him, but hopefully she can have a moment to properly meet him without so much pressure. I'm hoping so bad Aiden is gonna turn out trans or nonbinary to spite Peter lmao.
I can relate to the "don't drop it" getting shown by Star here, so much.
When my bestie had her youngest and I visited, she made me hold the baby. The stress levels and anxiety were SO HIGH for that exact reason. XD
Thankfully, I got easy mode and was sitting down in a futon instead of standing up. Made the whole ordeal that much less concerning. X3
When my bestie had her youngest and I visited, she made me hold the baby. The stress levels and anxiety were SO HIGH for that exact reason. XD
Thankfully, I got easy mode and was sitting down in a futon instead of standing up. Made the whole ordeal that much less concerning. X3
Best thing to do when you are holding a baby - sit down keep your heartrate down, and keep head near heart level. As for Star, don't worry - this little one won't be spewing for quite some time. And if you cry, just give it to mama, because this baby needs noms. And then right back to sleep again. Newborns are easy that way ;)
Wow that is so close to home. My sister's first kid I was refusing to hold him so my sister threatened to drop him if I didn't take him and of course I was trying to call her Bluff but she started to count down and slowly was moving her arms away from him now of course I would do anything for those kids even if it meant I had to die to do it and she counted on that and said that out loud so when she got to one I quickly grabbed him and just was swearing and saying don't drop him repeatedly out loud there's a video of it too A friend of mine was with me when I found out my sister gave birth so we went to the hospital together. She captured the whole thing on video
that was my thoughts holding a newborn for the first time too, it was my cousin and i was around 12-13 years old, i had no problem playing with him when he was on the ground or in a crib or car seat, but once i had to hold him i was so paranoid of hurting him by accident that i nearly went into a full panic attack, since then i have held many newborns and young babies and after learning how to properly pick up and hold a baby in high school i never get scared anymore
Omfg I have typed out so many comments expressing my frustrations with parents like those and erased every single one cause they were too negative.
My parents are like that. Well, my mom and my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. And MIL + family.
It’s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating. I have a child already, a child which I shouldn’t even have been able to have. Everything in my body screams no. (Hypothyroidism, endometriosis, past external injuries, etc) my doctors said I would need to use IVF to ever be able to have a child. And everyone pestering at every single family event is cssnkldnc#dncsuidsiojckoa. Even just my mom babysitting comes with the “joke” ‘so you can make another kid?’
I think I’m extra frustrated cause I literally just went through it (my mom asked if we are making her a grandson this weekend like 15 min ago as I dropped off my kid) and am reading this on the bus home lmao.
My parents are like that. Well, my mom and my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. And MIL + family.
It’s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating. I have a child already, a child which I shouldn’t even have been able to have. Everything in my body screams no. (Hypothyroidism, endometriosis, past external injuries, etc) my doctors said I would need to use IVF to ever be able to have a child. And everyone pestering at every single family event is cssnkldnc#dncsuidsiojckoa. Even just my mom babysitting comes with the “joke” ‘so you can make another kid?’
I think I’m extra frustrated cause I literally just went through it (my mom asked if we are making her a grandson this weekend like 15 min ago as I dropped off my kid) and am reading this on the bus home lmao.
Star’s dad reminds me so much of the stories I’ve heard about my grandfather. When my older sister was born, second grandchild of theirs, my dad phoned to tell them. His response was to say “Another girl? Can you not do anything right?” and hung up.
That weird obsession with “carrying on the family name” and such.
That weird obsession with “carrying on the family name” and such.
My biodad had similar feelings about "carrying on the family name" and he had himself done far far too many things for me to ever wanna do that for him <.<
He knew i was ace but still thowt i wud pass on his name 9,9 He wrote my little bro off cuz he was gay, but believed i wud be his prodigal child... And even after i figured out i was trans, he still thowt i was gonna do that
In reality i had stopped usin the name he gave me in high school and the first thing i looked into when i figured out i was trans was changin my name; to remove that family name entirely
He was so upset when he found out i had done such and refused to even let me say a word to explain my feels about the name and all that. And he again insisted he thowt i wud pass on his name <.<
That was honestly the final straw in many ways for me bcuz it was also on a day where he just was rly transphobic despite his "trying" and the fact he had done sm wrong that is best left unsaid <.<
That sorta obsession is just disgustin to me bcuz it feels like it comes from that absurd desire to forever control ones children, in at least one way; so they become the ppl you expected them to become >.>
He knew i was ace but still thowt i wud pass on his name 9,9 He wrote my little bro off cuz he was gay, but believed i wud be his prodigal child... And even after i figured out i was trans, he still thowt i was gonna do that
In reality i had stopped usin the name he gave me in high school and the first thing i looked into when i figured out i was trans was changin my name; to remove that family name entirely
He was so upset when he found out i had done such and refused to even let me say a word to explain my feels about the name and all that. And he again insisted he thowt i wud pass on his name <.<
That was honestly the final straw in many ways for me bcuz it was also on a day where he just was rly transphobic despite his "trying" and the fact he had done sm wrong that is best left unsaid <.<
That sorta obsession is just disgustin to me bcuz it feels like it comes from that absurd desire to forever control ones children, in at least one way; so they become the ppl you expected them to become >.>
Everyone is hating on the father, and yes, with reason. His behavior is abominable. Criticizes the child's hair that he got from his mother, forces Star to take the baby. No offense, Ms. Sammy, I want her to look at him and tell him, clearly and with authority, "NO." Not raising her voice, not being rude, just setting the boundary and blocking his crossing it. And yes, I know, that's easier said than done.
What I love is that Star has apparently missed the answer Kim gave, about "looking into the possibility". She's the only one there who would understand it, and the lack of blush means (to me) she is FAR too preoccupied to have heard it.
For those who are worried about holding an itty-bitty for the first time.... Do what you see done with the 4 year old big sister who wants to hold her little sibling.... Parents will have her sit down on the floor, put the baby in her lap, and then HOVER. Her lap is inches from the floor, so baby won't be hurt if he or she rolls off... And the hovering parent is there in case the big sister's attention wavers. Once you've held them once, like that, things start to fall into place and the "DON'T DROP IT!" fear disappears.
Also betting Lily's first words once Peter is out of the room are an apology to everyone for his behavior.... Which I suspect everyone but Star will graciously accept.
What I love is that Star has apparently missed the answer Kim gave, about "looking into the possibility". She's the only one there who would understand it, and the lack of blush means (to me) she is FAR too preoccupied to have heard it.
For those who are worried about holding an itty-bitty for the first time.... Do what you see done with the 4 year old big sister who wants to hold her little sibling.... Parents will have her sit down on the floor, put the baby in her lap, and then HOVER. Her lap is inches from the floor, so baby won't be hurt if he or she rolls off... And the hovering parent is there in case the big sister's attention wavers. Once you've held them once, like that, things start to fall into place and the "DON'T DROP IT!" fear disappears.
Also betting Lily's first words once Peter is out of the room are an apology to everyone for his behavior.... Which I suspect everyone but Star will graciously accept.
I understand that want, but the family of folk like this are prty much always the ones who have the hardest time spkin up against it bcuz of just how pervasive that feelin to conform is...
Ive both known others stuck in that and once myself been similarly stuck tho in a diff way. The fawn response is quite strong. I wud say tho, the fact she so easily knows how to deflect is worthy of comment even, bcuz that itself is a small act of rebellion
Im not so sure she will apologise for his words tho, just cuz... Its probs just normal and no one even comments on it anymore. Tho i wud quite like the slightly better version you envisioned; i may just be pessimistic here heh
Also, bein dyspraxic i wud nvr wanna hold a kid outside of sat on the floor like that xD I dont trust myself not to drop them at any higher height than that; given how easily my fine motor control can just go wonky at times with littlr notice if any
Ive both known others stuck in that and once myself been similarly stuck tho in a diff way. The fawn response is quite strong. I wud say tho, the fact she so easily knows how to deflect is worthy of comment even, bcuz that itself is a small act of rebellion
Im not so sure she will apologise for his words tho, just cuz... Its probs just normal and no one even comments on it anymore. Tho i wud quite like the slightly better version you envisioned; i may just be pessimistic here heh
Also, bein dyspraxic i wud nvr wanna hold a kid outside of sat on the floor like that xD I dont trust myself not to drop them at any higher height than that; given how easily my fine motor control can just go wonky at times with littlr notice if any
I'm 19 years older than my youngest siblings and this is how i felt when they were home for the first year, I don't understand why babies freak me out, there were times my mom would say "here" hand them to me and I wouldn't move from the couch. They scare me with how fragile they are.
My Aunt & Uncle accepted the fact that my cousin wasn't going to have any children years ago.
My brother & SiL live and are close enough that she is more than happy to live vicariously through my mother XD
Its an arrangement that they both enjoy.
Related to babies, when I first held my nephew my thoughts were along the lines of "How do I prevent anyone else from holding him."
It was...a very special feeling to hold something so small and dependent that was also strong.
My brother & SiL live and are close enough that she is more than happy to live vicariously through my mother XD
Its an arrangement that they both enjoy.
Related to babies, when I first held my nephew my thoughts were along the lines of "How do I prevent anyone else from holding him."
It was...a very special feeling to hold something so small and dependent that was also strong.
That internal dialog! XD
For real though, the stakes are so incredibly high when it comes to babies. I don't know how anyone is able to remain calm with them around. You just have this tiny living thing that is both so incredibly fragile and also completely incapable of telling you if something is seriously wrong.
For real though, the stakes are so incredibly high when it comes to babies. I don't know how anyone is able to remain calm with them around. You just have this tiny living thing that is both so incredibly fragile and also completely incapable of telling you if something is seriously wrong.
I remember the first time I was asked to hold my aunt's baby. I was terrified and couldn't wait for someone else to take her again, and every time she moved or squirmed, I just wanted to scream for help (I didn't, because I knew it would upset the baby if I started screaming). I was very lucky I was sitting down when she was handed off, so I had my legs as an added sturdy base to keep her stable. And thankfully as well, it didn't take long for grandma to want another cuddle from the infant, and I could breathe a sigh of relief.
Okay, that “DON’T DROP IT” was a huge mood for me with my first nibling. Glad to see I’m not the only one!
Nice on the Mom to get Dad the fudge outta there. Excellent read of the room, there, though it looks like every gal in that room was ready to send him down to the ER by force if necessary…
Nice on the Mom to get Dad the fudge outta there. Excellent read of the room, there, though it looks like every gal in that room was ready to send him down to the ER by force if necessary…
This is the first time in all the years I’ve been reading this that I’m actually anxious and not looking forward to the next few pages… I can already see multiple conflict trigger points formed and knowing he is an arrogant, self centred and aggressively vanilla alpha male, it’ll only take one threat to his status quo to set him off, and neither Star nor Kim are deserving of that.
Also subtle nod from ‘dad’ that alex is dead to him as that generation at every much about male succession and ‘Aiden carrying the family name’ looks to be a nod to that. Meanwhile Kim is in passive protection mode but also just gotten to experience Stars Dad for the first time and being put on the spot whilst looking after her little…
Really hoping for a nice conflict-less resolution in the next panel… it’s bad enough for Star the event is still coming up 😂
Also subtle nod from ‘dad’ that alex is dead to him as that generation at every much about male succession and ‘Aiden carrying the family name’ looks to be a nod to that. Meanwhile Kim is in passive protection mode but also just gotten to experience Stars Dad for the first time and being put on the spot whilst looking after her little…
Really hoping for a nice conflict-less resolution in the next panel… it’s bad enough for Star the event is still coming up 😂
This. All of this. The irony is I have a family reunion today and well I always get asked "Do I have a girlfriend yet?" By everyone and they find it weird that I'm not exactly looking for love.
Being a Bi Demisexual and everyone there being heavy bible thumping Christians you can see why I have to pretend to be the most straight and boring person in the world.
This part in the comic just brings out all my worst fears but it's nice to realize I'm not the only one out there. I'm always eager to see more, the good and the bad.
Being a Bi Demisexual and everyone there being heavy bible thumping Christians you can see why I have to pretend to be the most straight and boring person in the world.
This part in the comic just brings out all my worst fears but it's nice to realize I'm not the only one out there. I'm always eager to see more, the good and the bad.
I really can't grasp the utter obsession some parents have with getting grandchildren, (be their child a guy or a gal).
What are they to you, a child or a means to an end? Do their life goals and desires not factor into the equation? What if they don't want kids of their own? What if this or that? There's dozens of reasons it might never happen!
I just can't square it *shrugs*
What are they to you, a child or a means to an end? Do their life goals and desires not factor into the equation? What if they don't want kids of their own? What if this or that? There's dozens of reasons it might never happen!
I just can't square it *shrugs*
This does raise the question
Since all of these comics seem to be set 20 minutes into the future, and since modern medicine is on the verge of giving trans women working uteruses, could Kim get a baby of her very own if she wanted?
Since all of these comics seem to be set 20 minutes into the future, and since modern medicine is on the verge of giving trans women working uteruses, could Kim get a baby of her very own if she wanted?
He thinks that with his background in the army he can say what he wants without the kids saying anything but that is just wrong. If he finds out Star is an ABDL and he almost looses it worse than his gay son I say punch both his eyes black and divorce him these days parents have to keep an open mind about their kid’s future and lifestyle .
I absolutely love the final panel of this page. Sure we've seen some thought bubbles with some strong words that really convey a character's hidden emotions, but filling the entire panel with what's going through Star's head takes the tension to a whole new level. :)
Reading all the reactions to the behaviour of Star's father is a real testament to how strongly readers relate to your characters, either positively or negatively. There's no question that he crossed some lines with those comments and seems completely oblivious to how others are affected, as he's too busy reveling in what a baby boy does for his legacy. Still, it would seem that a lot of people have seen this pattern of behaviour before and emotions are definitely stirred in the process.
Reading all the reactions to the behaviour of Star's father is a real testament to how strongly readers relate to your characters, either positively or negatively. There's no question that he crossed some lines with those comments and seems completely oblivious to how others are affected, as he's too busy reveling in what a baby boy does for his legacy. Still, it would seem that a lot of people have seen this pattern of behaviour before and emotions are definitely stirred in the process.
Honestly, I don't care much for kids...They're so fragile, impressionable, and soooo very loud in ways that are often painful for me....I don't know if it's just my autism, but being around little kids can feel as if I'm experiencing a sensory assault especially when it comes to the sort of shrill sounds they generate. That may sound weird considering that I enjoy bands where part of the appeal is listening to vocalists who shriek as if they're shades howling for vengeance from some icy netherworld, but there's a specific quality to it.... I have a niece and nephew (well actually they're my friend's kids, but that's sort of how they see me) and they're not bad kids, but holy hell they can be draining to be around and one of them never stops talking....On some days it can be maddening if not painful to deal with. Like I can be thoroughly stressed out just by being around the raw aimless chaos they generate.
Also, as a person who knows the way older gents think, it can be assumed Peter hasn't heard about Star's... situation on base.
If he knew, his body language would have betrayed it. So, the largest bombshell is yet to drop. When he finds out about his daughter's fundraiser, fur is gonna start flying.
Definitely going to need her second mommy's support, come that time.
If he knew, his body language would have betrayed it. So, the largest bombshell is yet to drop. When he finds out about his daughter's fundraiser, fur is gonna start flying.
Definitely going to need her second mommy's support, come that time.
Bein trans myself, that response of Kim's is even better; tho maybe a little less funny for it
Kim cant ever have the exp Jess is havin rn, but she can have her own babies in her own ways and i love that she is able to recognise that here and so quickly gloss past the actual pain that question can cause to many closeted trans women
Kim cant ever have the exp Jess is havin rn, but she can have her own babies in her own ways and i love that she is able to recognise that here and so quickly gloss past the actual pain that question can cause to many closeted trans women
Honestly I wonder if Star's dad isn't secretly closeted himself. The constant macho-alpha behavior and fixation with reproduction and the family line may be him trying to prove to everyone (especially himself) it isn't so. This would also explain his obsession with controlling his children, since he fears losing control of himself and letting the mask slip, and his hatred of Alex is his hatred of what he sees within himself.
But on the topic of newborns, I had no idea so many people had a problem with them. Up until three-four months they're more like a person-larva that you can just lay in the carrier or bassinet when you need a break, changing and feeding as needed. Once they start being able to grab at things is when things get really hectic, to say nothing of when they start crawling and you can't leave them alone for a second.
But on the topic of newborns, I had no idea so many people had a problem with them. Up until three-four months they're more like a person-larva that you can just lay in the carrier or bassinet when you need a break, changing and feeding as needed. Once they start being able to grab at things is when things get really hectic, to say nothing of when they start crawling and you can't leave them alone for a second.
Coming from a family where children were expected to be the caregivers for their parents once they were grown, I know the dad's narrative all too well.
Also know the generations up to that point weren't enlightened and peer pressure kept them in line.
Anyone more open would have been considered an odd duck.
Also know the generations up to that point weren't enlightened and peer pressure kept them in line.
Anyone more open would have been considered an odd duck.
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