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There's something you don't see everyday

Biodiesel powered...

Oh god, now I see it. That Bug is powered by MOOSE JIZZ!

Needledick's his name, Bug fuckin's his game!

Powered by special "Moose Juice" I suppose.

Poor lil' guy.

This may be (most likely is) a really stupid question, but why is the logo on the hood backwards?0

its so you can read it correctly in the rear view mirror

For the same reason that ambulances have a little sign on the front hood that says ECNALUBMA.

teen moose ROFL!

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If you are running a restaurant that has fryolaters, then using the waste oil to fuel your diesel powered vehicle makes all kinds of sense. The whole biodiesel conversion process is not really needed if you are starting with a lighter oil like soy or peanut oil. gotta be careful about fuel viscosity in cold weather though.

Wrong. Biodiesel =/= waste oil.

Biodesiel is usually made from waste food oils and various vegetable oils. The diesel engine was originally designed to run on pure vegetable oils, since Herr Diesel was inventing an engine that would run on something other than petroleum, which was in short supply in WW1 Germany. the biodiesel conversion process mostly chops those long chain carbon molecules into shorter ones that have a lower melting point. the particulates are removed and then the ph has to be adjusted back to a non-corrosive zone.

In warm weather, a diesel will run just fine on a variety of different vegetable oils. May have to change out injector nozzles and adjust fuel pressure depending on the particular oil in use. In cold weather, the vegetable oils tend to thicken up or solidify, so provision has to be made to keep the fuel tank and lines heated, and startup and shutdown has to be done on petroleum diesel fuel which won't solidify in the fuel lines and pumps.

Biggest problem with the waste food oil into fuel process is that the particulate matter in the oil has to be completely removed. Otherwise it clogs up the fuel injector nozzles and pumps. There is still the mold and bacteria growth problem in the stored fuel, which if not dealt with, clogs up fuel filters, pumps and injectors.

I know and agree to all this, but according to everything I know about biodiesel, it isn't made from reman'd fryer oil. It is purpose made from corn oils, I know and agree to that. I know there are retrofit kits available to run diesel motors on fryer oil, which DO require the different injectors, pumps, tank heaters, etc you mentioned. But I have never heard of biodiesel being the same thing as filtered fryer oil, and I've worked on diesels my entire life. =\

You are correct. Biodiesel on commercial scale is made from virgin feedstock oils. Usually food oils like corn or soy, but varies by region. Biodiesel is also a lot less 'green' than the ecofanatics would like you to believe. It uses some chemicals that have their own production chain, and they divert food oils from food uses. If you look at the whole life cycle cost, petroleum diesel is not such a bad thing. Much like the current ethanol gas additives. They take food materials, usually corn in the USA, and convert them to motor fuel. Looking at the whole life cycle it is actually more expensive per BTU produced than gasoline. And uses lots of fuel and petroleum derived fertilizers to grow the corn.


But back to the original matter. For a mid-sized resturant that has a diesel powered delivery vehicle or two, converting them to use old oils from the fryolators is an economic win. They get low cost fuel for the vehicle, and they don't have to pay the disposal company to take away the used fryer oil. If the vehicle is in a heated garage, or they are in a warm part of the country, then it's even less expensive as they don't have to convert the oil into biodiesel.

Yeah, I never understood why diesel was so damn expensive anyways. When gas was $4.00 a gallon, diesel was like $7.00-8.00..Which makes no sense. Smoke and fire logic, when you make fire, you get smoke. When you make gasoline, you get diesel. More gouging from the gas companies for ya. XD

But I agree with the last post. Biodiesel on a commercial scale is not fryer oil, and I have only ever worked with it on a commercial scale. As far as converting the bug to run or fryer oil, it is a win. And yes, biodiesel is about as green as coal is black. XD

Diesel is expensive because it is the most widely used fraction of the crude oil. Diesel fuel is very nearly the same as number 2 heating oil, which most oil fired home heating systems use. It is also DFM (marine diesel), and JP-4 and jet fuel. All just about the same stuff, just slightly different additives, dyes and very different taxe rates. Also, you can run diesel through a cracker at the refinery and get gasoline and other useful lighter fractions.

A large ship, such as a cruise liner or container vessel will burn tens of thousands of gallons per week of underway time. A 747 carries tons of jet fuel and will burn most of it flying one way across the atlantic.

I know all of this. =\

Goodness Gracious, they've got a FLEET!

Or a herd.

Hot Moose on bug sexins. You know there's someone getting off on this.

Biodiesel is crap. The corn they use grows a black fungus/mold that stops the fuel filters up bigger than shit, everytime. Usually on the side of a highway, where I have to go tend to them.

Wasn't Wally Moose the name of that Amusement Park Character from the first National Lampoon Vacation movie?