I AM DISSAPOINT.

I wouldn't mind it playing so differently if SEGA didn't proclaim it to be a classic-styled game. =/

Unless you're from Europe then it fells exactly like the old games.

Did Sonic lose mommentum really fast in the European ver of his games?

Yea, he did in fact. In fact, he was over all slower in the European versions of his games.

huh i never knew that, wonder why they did that

Not a clue.

PAL games mean slower framerate... I'm not exactly sure, but NTSC framerates for movies and games are at 24fps, PAL framerates go at 20fps. A slight dip in speed, but it's noticeable, even in emulation.

the thing in that in the europe (or a large part of it) the electrical systems run on 50Hz while the NTSC regions run on 60Hz, and on the primitive circuitry of the first TVs, it proved unfeasible to have the TVs work on a different frequency than the electrical system.
Then, in order to have the consoles working in europe, they had to output 50Hz for european TVs. And due to technical limitations of the primitive processors of old consoles (most notably the lack of floating point arithmetic), there's several games they didn't bother fixing for europe.

I thought it was ~30 fps for NTSC, and 25 fps for PAL.

not so, things viewed in digital video (flash animations, high quality youtube videos, etc) are 30fps

NTSC TVs go at 24fps while PAL TVs go at 20fps

Only the first sonic game was at a reduced frequency - the subsequent cartridges include compensators.

Okay then...

This is my exact same reaction.

Something just felt so.. off.

The controls were kinda unresponsive and although the level design was ok (it's more scenic), the graphics just looked really bad. Like someone beat Donkey Kong Country with an ugly stick.

Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk

Everything is tied together nicer visually. I can't say anything about the controls (since there's no way to play it), but it just looks more.. professional.

i herd that vid was made by recording gameplay and recreating it in 3d. dunno if thats true but thats what i herd

Dude, remember, this is not a full budget title. It's an XBLA game.

Yay! More complaints! SEGA finally gave in and gave the fanboys the 2D game that they so craved, and they complain! Really, I am not surprised. I played the demo and didn't find it that bad. It plays almost exactly like the old style Sonic games, except that it has auto targeting. It's official. SEGA needs to stop trying to please their fans, because nothing will please them.

Im fine with homeing attacks, i do get annoyed when Sonic is running at top speed and i make him jump only for him to stop on a dime in mid air just becasue i wasnt pressing right or left on the dpad. which was some thing that never happened on the classic sonic games

... you stopped pressing right?

... why would you do that? ;.;

I personally think that the reason Sonic 06 was so bugged up the ass was because it was pretty much SEGA's way of getting back at the picky fans who find things to complain about in every Sonic game. They wanted to show people what a REAL bad Sonic game was. lol, that's what I think, anyway.

agreed, this is why some gamers make me rageface

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the main reason why Sonic sucks now...because of their retarded fanbase who is never going to be pleased. Maybe Sega should do a new ''stories'' Sonic game (god forbid) so fanboys will STFU and beg for a 2D game again :'D

Ungh the game is fun but it feels.. sluggish compared to the others, like a very small delay in some responses... putting that into the game, makes it ungodly frustrating, as well as the Emerald stages X_X

fun... but could use some major fixing in areas.

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/...../SonicLucy.jpg

I bought it and loved it... sure, the physics are different, but it can be easily adapted to.

In all honesty, I felt Sonic Advance 1 was more Sonic 4 than Sonic 4 was... though Sonic 4 gives you the long-awaited ability to be Super in every level again.

i think the way the old Sonic games played are like fused into my DNA so ive been trying to play Sonic 4 like i would Sonic1-K and that isnt quite working so it makes me kind of annoyed with it.

Being able to play as Super Sonic again is cool

you can be super sonic in levels again? is this confirmed? or is it like sonic '06? "Yaa, you can be super sonic!...wait no, we lied. we messed up, it would break the game"

once you get all the emeralds, yeah, you can be Super Sonic in every level, just like in the good old days

i enjoyed it, then again the old-school fanboys and mario fanboys will bicth on the forums like babies becasue its not perfect

It's not cool to dis a game you just played through three times. XD

Yeah I went back to Sonic 1 after the demo. I liked it more.

But I guess I gotta get used to it. I do not like Sonic's running animation though in the new one.

What was there to expect? The "fans" got what they wanted. It doesn't mean Sonic is "dead" (and I want to punch the next person that says that), but it shows how stupid the fanbase in general really is. Wait for Colors.

Where did you get the demo from?

every Sonic game feels just a little different from the others, some examples: In Sonic 2 Sonic didn't bounce back as far after striking a badnik as he did in Sonic 3, meaning you had to be careful in order to stay clear of counter hits. The acceleration curve and top running speed of Sonic Advance 2 was much faster than in Sonic Advance. Sonic is slowed down by water much more in 1, 2, and 3 than he is in the Advance or Rush games. And the spin dash works completely differently in Sonic CD than it does in any other game in the series. It's those little differences that make playing each game a unique experience.

slow, sluggish, and that stupid homing attack should be removed completely.. sonic also moves so unnatually. it looks find for a sprite, but when you try to apply it to a 3d model, is just looks bad

I think it's technically a prerendered sprite :P

Hey, now you know how I felt when I played "Maverick Hunter X" and it didn't play like Megaman X did

yeah they changed the physics too much

Heh. I read that and first thing that came to mind was "I watched this movie three times and it's beginning to become predictable!"

Any chance they'll do a patch update to make it a bit faster?

dunno if they will do a ptach, and i dont want it uber fast i just want it to feel like Sonic1-K like they said it would

i haven't played the sonic 4 demo, but i would really like to. looks pretty fun, despite its shortcomings

to me it felt A LOT like a flash game. to make everyone wait so long or charge 15$ per episode is highway robbery.

I definitely wouldn't have hated it as much if they didn't make it a direct sequel

well it just bugged me cuz in like every interview vid they are like "Its a throw back to classic Sonic" and then you play it and it dosnt seem to feel like a classic game

that's exactly what I mean 8| (you just said it better). Had it been some sonic spin off I wouldn't have had the same deep dissappointment I had since it was claiming to be like the old titles.