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Yeah as someone who grew up with a prepper parent who wanted me to be a prepper my thoughts often drift as to how let down a prepper would be by the dragonscape. All their preparations rotted away with only some (usually mediocre) bushcraft skills left to them in the very end. It's not the fantasy that the average prepper indulges from my experience, and he probably had that hit him hard at Umtanum
Yeah as someone who grew up with a prepper parent who wanted me to be a prepper my thoughts often drift as to how let down a prepper would be by the dragonscape. All their preparations rotted away with only some (usually mediocre) bushcraft skills left to them in the very end. It's not the fantasy that the average prepper indulges from my experience, and he probably had that hit him hard at Umtanum
Hah! This hits pretty close to home. I'm definitely a prepper, but not one of those Discovery Channel freaks. I have a fair stock of preserved food, but nothing that would survive a hundred years, that's for sure. Well, except maybe the honey, sugar and salt. The beans, lentils and rice would survive if the jars don't get broken, as would the pasta.
No, the food wouldn't last, but I *do* have knowledge and skills.
No, the food wouldn't last, but I *do* have knowledge and skills.
As someone who grew up with a prepper parent I've had a good bit of inside looking on prepper community stuff throughout most of my life I will say most aren't that crazy, though there is definitely a lot of paranoia and a lot of fantastical thinking in the prepper community that I disagree with that feels less about being actually ready to survive and more about indulging survivalist fantasies.
I will say dry canned beans may at best survive a handful of years (about 20 tops) before going bad. Rice in the most optimal of conditions that are rarely afforded to a collapsed building might last a good 50 years but wouldn't last over a century at all at least according to my experience and studying on food spoilage. Even dired stuff has a way of degrading over time, even dried flour in an airtight container isn't going to last forever. The vast majority of food items, even those built to survive long periods of time, wouldn't beat 100+ years, especially considering the physical degredation and collapse of infrastructure that would likely compromise or destroy the storage of those items or the food itself. Which is kinda the point
Honey and Salt are miracle foods that do have a habit of not really degrading at all, even over literal thousands of years, the honey would crystalize and the Salt would be fine on its own, its a rock and doesn't break down really. Sugar is definitely a case of "if the jar doesn't break" it can last hundreds of years for sure as long as its container is safe.
Generally primitivist bushcraft skills are probably what would benefit a drek the most though there are also a lot of things any survivalist would have to learn and relearn. Ergonomics, nutritional need and what they can and can't eat is different, acclimating to new behaviors and issues of agility and flexibility (or the lack thereof). Understanding and working with with ones new biomechanics etc.
So most of the survival skills that would apply would likely be things like navigation, basic knowledge and first aid, firestarting more or less, but considering things even down to an axe don't really work as well with drekir a lot of things still need to be learned from the ground up and the moments where reality just stops working in the face of an Obelisk, spirits, mavõtur or balãr also means that the average prepper is probably not that much better off than the average starbucks worker save a better understanding of good general rules.
There is also magical dangers, sivilão dangers, and a whole new host of plants and wildlife that one needs to discern the danger of, probably not the easy way in many cases. Not much you can do when a stãg (Tremorfar) pops from the ground
I will say dry canned beans may at best survive a handful of years (about 20 tops) before going bad. Rice in the most optimal of conditions that are rarely afforded to a collapsed building might last a good 50 years but wouldn't last over a century at all at least according to my experience and studying on food spoilage. Even dired stuff has a way of degrading over time, even dried flour in an airtight container isn't going to last forever. The vast majority of food items, even those built to survive long periods of time, wouldn't beat 100+ years, especially considering the physical degredation and collapse of infrastructure that would likely compromise or destroy the storage of those items or the food itself. Which is kinda the point
Honey and Salt are miracle foods that do have a habit of not really degrading at all, even over literal thousands of years, the honey would crystalize and the Salt would be fine on its own, its a rock and doesn't break down really. Sugar is definitely a case of "if the jar doesn't break" it can last hundreds of years for sure as long as its container is safe.
Generally primitivist bushcraft skills are probably what would benefit a drek the most though there are also a lot of things any survivalist would have to learn and relearn. Ergonomics, nutritional need and what they can and can't eat is different, acclimating to new behaviors and issues of agility and flexibility (or the lack thereof). Understanding and working with with ones new biomechanics etc.
So most of the survival skills that would apply would likely be things like navigation, basic knowledge and first aid, firestarting more or less, but considering things even down to an axe don't really work as well with drekir a lot of things still need to be learned from the ground up and the moments where reality just stops working in the face of an Obelisk, spirits, mavõtur or balãr also means that the average prepper is probably not that much better off than the average starbucks worker save a better understanding of good general rules.
There is also magical dangers, sivilão dangers, and a whole new host of plants and wildlife that one needs to discern the danger of, probably not the easy way in many cases. Not much you can do when a stãg (Tremorfar) pops from the ground
I've consumed some 50 year old powdered goods and dried fruit from my dad's old food storage. Surprisingly not bad. Even the dehydrated canned chicken reconstituted well. Definitely needs spices to make it taste better than clay, though.
Some of that stuff predated barcodes, which helped me at least find a ballpark date. I'm surprised they lasted that long, but I doubt they would have lasted another 20 years. Even in a cool, dry house a lot of the cans were corroding. So yeah, I agree that survival stashes would be very unlikely to survive.
I'm familiar with the lifespan of honey and salt. But you mention sugar lasts forever -- did you mean to continue talking about salt?
Some of that stuff predated barcodes, which helped me at least find a ballpark date. I'm surprised they lasted that long, but I doubt they would have lasted another 20 years. Even in a cool, dry house a lot of the cans were corroding. So yeah, I agree that survival stashes would be very unlikely to survive.
I'm familiar with the lifespan of honey and salt. But you mention sugar lasts forever -- did you mean to continue talking about salt?
Nope, Sugar really needs a good storage but it can last over 300 years assuming its in an airtight container, granulated sugar specifically. Of course the amount of people who would jar and airtight seal their sugar into something is unlikely, and it is just as likely that container would become compromised at some point. I was simply saying in the best of conditinos it couls last a few hundred years
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