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Now it's getting fun again, folks.
The working title is now "Who's Watching The Farm? (A Well-Deserved Musical Fair Use Parody)". We still have the same basic character types as the previous effort, but are now bringing them more into their own. Since they no longer have to portray Orwell's characters, it makes sense to give them their own names. As of this posting, we've only decided on two names. Maggie's the dog, the sensible border collie; we're still deliberating on names for the pig, sheep, and horse. This leads us to our ferret...
Meet our weaselly friend, Fosgate. No longer an IT guru, he's now a lawyer, from somewhere outside the farm, and is more sinister of a chap. Shortly after the intro of the show, he makes the decisive intro you hear here. For the purpose of the demos, I've swapped accents; Fosgate will be performed with my very best (and that's still pretty crappy) Richard Dawkins accent, while I've bequeathed Nigel Tufnel to the pig. I've also recycled the "pig" piano tango theme for Fosgate's purposes.
Fosgate in the center; pig, left; sheep, center left; Maggie, center right; horse, right.
Oh, and I have a lawyer this time around... a specialist in entertainment and copyright law. If anything gets disallowed at this point, it will be on his counsel.
The working title is now "Who's Watching The Farm? (A Well-Deserved Musical Fair Use Parody)". We still have the same basic character types as the previous effort, but are now bringing them more into their own. Since they no longer have to portray Orwell's characters, it makes sense to give them their own names. As of this posting, we've only decided on two names. Maggie's the dog, the sensible border collie; we're still deliberating on names for the pig, sheep, and horse. This leads us to our ferret...
Meet our weaselly friend, Fosgate. No longer an IT guru, he's now a lawyer, from somewhere outside the farm, and is more sinister of a chap. Shortly after the intro of the show, he makes the decisive intro you hear here. For the purpose of the demos, I've swapped accents; Fosgate will be performed with my very best (and that's still pretty crappy) Richard Dawkins accent, while I've bequeathed Nigel Tufnel to the pig. I've also recycled the "pig" piano tango theme for Fosgate's purposes.
Fosgate in the center; pig, left; sheep, center left; Maggie, center right; horse, right.
Oh, and I have a lawyer this time around... a specialist in entertainment and copyright law. If anything gets disallowed at this point, it will be on his counsel.
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You are damn incredible! I've seen your avatar a lot before, but never actually checked out your gallery. I'm very glad I finally did. I'm also extremely interested in this project you're doing, as a bit of an Orwell fan myself. What's the final medium going to be? Are you actually aiming for a stage production, because your music certainly sounds professional enough to make a very good one.
Also, as a Brit I feel the need to tell you that Fosgate's accent is one of the best I've ever heard from an (I assume) American. I wouldn't bat an eyelash hearing this in a British production :)
Also, as a Brit I feel the need to tell you that Fosgate's accent is one of the best I've ever heard from an (I assume) American. I wouldn't bat an eyelash hearing this in a British production :)
This is perhaps the best compliment I've ever gotten on FA... I really have Fosgate down?!?
I would love to learn more about regional British accents. For years I've been watching Monty Python and I've had the feeling that, if I understood more of the nuances of the particular geography they're spoofing, I'd find it even funnier. I love, say, the boisterous Geordie accent, but haven't been successful in recreating it myself. I can do a passable Liverpudlian (after decades of Beatles records, I'd better be able to!) but I don't think there are any Liverpudlians in this particular cast. I'd eventually like to find voice-types, such as Dawkins for Fosgate (that clipped, oh-so-Oxford-educated delivery), for all these characters, which I could then suggest to future stateside actors.
I'm genetically and geographically a midwestern American hillbilly; by all rights, I should sound like an extra from Deliverance. When I went to college on the east coast, though, I deliberately tried to eradicate my drawl because I thought it made me sound unintelligent. I succeeded only in mangling it and being uncomfortably aware of it; I absolutely can't talk like "myself" if I'm consciously thinking about it.
Keep in touch, okay? No one around here can advise me on the creation of what is, in effect, a British farce, and I'm sure to need clarifications along the way...
I would love to learn more about regional British accents. For years I've been watching Monty Python and I've had the feeling that, if I understood more of the nuances of the particular geography they're spoofing, I'd find it even funnier. I love, say, the boisterous Geordie accent, but haven't been successful in recreating it myself. I can do a passable Liverpudlian (after decades of Beatles records, I'd better be able to!) but I don't think there are any Liverpudlians in this particular cast. I'd eventually like to find voice-types, such as Dawkins for Fosgate (that clipped, oh-so-Oxford-educated delivery), for all these characters, which I could then suggest to future stateside actors.
I'm genetically and geographically a midwestern American hillbilly; by all rights, I should sound like an extra from Deliverance. When I went to college on the east coast, though, I deliberately tried to eradicate my drawl because I thought it made me sound unintelligent. I succeeded only in mangling it and being uncomfortably aware of it; I absolutely can't talk like "myself" if I'm consciously thinking about it.
Keep in touch, okay? No one around here can advise me on the creation of what is, in effect, a British farce, and I'm sure to need clarifications along the way...
:) I'm glad my compliment meant that much to you. And singing-wise certainly you have a great accent. Whenever it gets to "Cease and Desist" I struggle to imagine an American singing it. As for suggesting accents for other actors, certainly Oxford-educated is the right direction, but you might want to stress youth, perhaps a 'Public-Schooled University Student' or something similar. Just saying Oxford-educated might lead to a lot of old sounding Jeeves the Butler impressions o_0
If you're looking for more... common accents to contrast with Fosgate's, you might wanna try watching some British soap operas. I'll warn you now, they're either dull as hell or trying too hard to be exciting (Killing off characters every episode etc), but the accents in them are usually genuine and very local.
Best for you to look at are Eastenders and Coronation Street. Brookside is very good accent wise (And not anything-else wise) but is Liverpudlian, so not much help there :/
Coronation Street is Manchester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54gzq5Xr0Y
Eastenders is mostly London, or 'Cockney'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCpcFpJQwg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uUYGyfsoI&feature=channel (Cop in this is Scottish)
Little Brooky clip, just in case :p
Mostly Liverpudlian, except the woman at the start, who's probably outer-London or somewhere similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zjpOpAG9U&feature=related
If you're looking for a favourite for a stupid character, Brummy (A Birmingham accent) always goes down well, and then a Manchester accent for a rough or violent character.
Hope some of this helps. I'll be happy to stay in touch. Do you mind if I ask what accent the other characters in this are supposed to be? Particularly the one who speaks at the very start.
If you're looking for more... common accents to contrast with Fosgate's, you might wanna try watching some British soap operas. I'll warn you now, they're either dull as hell or trying too hard to be exciting (Killing off characters every episode etc), but the accents in them are usually genuine and very local.
Best for you to look at are Eastenders and Coronation Street. Brookside is very good accent wise (And not anything-else wise) but is Liverpudlian, so not much help there :/
Coronation Street is Manchester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54gzq5Xr0Y
Eastenders is mostly London, or 'Cockney'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCpcFpJQwg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uUYGyfsoI&feature=channel (Cop in this is Scottish)
Little Brooky clip, just in case :p
Mostly Liverpudlian, except the woman at the start, who's probably outer-London or somewhere similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zjpOpAG9U&feature=related
If you're looking for a favourite for a stupid character, Brummy (A Birmingham accent) always goes down well, and then a Manchester accent for a rough or violent character.
Hope some of this helps. I'll be happy to stay in touch. Do you mind if I ask what accent the other characters in this are supposed to be? Particularly the one who speaks at the very start.
(Fosgate in the center; pig, left; sheep, center left; Maggie, center right; horse, right. )
I may need a bit of clarification on Cockney, since it has been so famously mangled in many movies I won't bring up for the moment.
I think I was afraid to use Cockney, not only because it seemed like the "unintelligent" accent (an analog to my own hillbilly drawl) but because I've only been aware of it when it's been exaggerated for comic effect. But the sound of those Eastenders clips are just what I'd like for our pig! I did not know that was a proper Cockney. I'm not sure how a pig would end up with such an accent, since there's an implied low-rent urbanity inherent in it and I'm pretty sure our pig hasn't spent a lot of time in London, but perhaps that's beside the point for our purposes. I'd like the pig to be slightly less rural than the horse, but not as urbane as the ferret, and honing in on that might help. I also really dig the Manchester sound (I'm going to have to look on a map to see where all this stuff is) in the sense that, if I tried to do Cockney right now, it would probably come out more Manchester. I'm not sure I could pick the two varieties out of a lineup quite yet. Between the two, I think the pig would be Cockney and the horse Manchester, if we don't Hagrid-ize the horse, that is.
I use "Nigel Tufnel" for a reference quite often, even though Christopher Guest is an American (albeit with dual citizenship) doing his own unique take on what I didn't realize might be Cockney. Mostly it's convenience; years of quoting Spinal Tap ("This one goes to eleven!") have left me well in practice. But eventually I should give up on that happy practice... maybe...
And I haven't even started on our female characters yet! I'm thinking "young Angela Lansbury" for Maggie the border collie, and I need to find a British equivalent of Gracie Allen for the sheep. For demo purposes, it scarcely matters since my voice won't really gender-bend anyway. I'll sing the sheep in falsetto and the dog right at the edge of it, and have done with it.
I may need a bit of clarification on Cockney, since it has been so famously mangled in many movies I won't bring up for the moment.
I think I was afraid to use Cockney, not only because it seemed like the "unintelligent" accent (an analog to my own hillbilly drawl) but because I've only been aware of it when it's been exaggerated for comic effect. But the sound of those Eastenders clips are just what I'd like for our pig! I did not know that was a proper Cockney. I'm not sure how a pig would end up with such an accent, since there's an implied low-rent urbanity inherent in it and I'm pretty sure our pig hasn't spent a lot of time in London, but perhaps that's beside the point for our purposes. I'd like the pig to be slightly less rural than the horse, but not as urbane as the ferret, and honing in on that might help. I also really dig the Manchester sound (I'm going to have to look on a map to see where all this stuff is) in the sense that, if I tried to do Cockney right now, it would probably come out more Manchester. I'm not sure I could pick the two varieties out of a lineup quite yet. Between the two, I think the pig would be Cockney and the horse Manchester, if we don't Hagrid-ize the horse, that is.
I use "Nigel Tufnel" for a reference quite often, even though Christopher Guest is an American (albeit with dual citizenship) doing his own unique take on what I didn't realize might be Cockney. Mostly it's convenience; years of quoting Spinal Tap ("This one goes to eleven!") have left me well in practice. But eventually I should give up on that happy practice... maybe...
And I haven't even started on our female characters yet! I'm thinking "young Angela Lansbury" for Maggie the border collie, and I need to find a British equivalent of Gracie Allen for the sheep. For demo purposes, it scarcely matters since my voice won't really gender-bend anyway. I'll sing the sheep in falsetto and the dog right at the edge of it, and have done with it.
Yeah, those clips show the average cockney. It can get a lot stronger and still be a natural accent, but that tends to be street gangs and really really rough areas o_0
It does have a slight 'unintelligent' label attached to it, which gets bigger the stronger the accent. At the Eastenders level it more just implies working class, not necessarily stupid. And I wouldn't worry about where each accent is geographically. London is quite far from... well... anything really! Manchester is half the country away, but I don't think anyone would be bothered if you chucked both accents in the same performance.
And using the guys from Spinal Tap as a reference point is perfectly fine I think. They have a very stupid air to their voices, obviously, but the general accent is indeed quite cockney. We generally think of cockney as being a bit harder or rougher, but theirs is fine.
As for female voices, I can't help you much with the border collie, but I've just checked out Gracie Allen, and I think a strong Manchester accent would work quite well.
Daphne from Fraiser is quite good, that's a Manchester accent;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgXDDyDYma8&feature=related
These two are exaggerated, but fairly well done;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJYpMPtPr0E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbqkN6W8j38 (Only Perry's is a Manchester accent. The one Kevin tries to put on is purposely bad)
It does have a slight 'unintelligent' label attached to it, which gets bigger the stronger the accent. At the Eastenders level it more just implies working class, not necessarily stupid. And I wouldn't worry about where each accent is geographically. London is quite far from... well... anything really! Manchester is half the country away, but I don't think anyone would be bothered if you chucked both accents in the same performance.
And using the guys from Spinal Tap as a reference point is perfectly fine I think. They have a very stupid air to their voices, obviously, but the general accent is indeed quite cockney. We generally think of cockney as being a bit harder or rougher, but theirs is fine.
As for female voices, I can't help you much with the border collie, but I've just checked out Gracie Allen, and I think a strong Manchester accent would work quite well.
Daphne from Fraiser is quite good, that's a Manchester accent;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgXDDyDYma8&feature=related
These two are exaggerated, but fairly well done;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJYpMPtPr0E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbqkN6W8j38 (Only Perry's is a Manchester accent. The one Kevin tries to put on is purposely bad)
Silly little thing I did while practising voices. It's a little cringe-worthy, but ah well :p
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4477024/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4477024/
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