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I want to add a background, but i'm kinda unsure of what to do. So...here. >.<
Rally © Bitchwolf
Alisha © me
Rally © Bitchwolf
Alisha © me
Category Artwork (Traditional) / Sonic
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Size 1280 x 1007px
File Size 185.5 kB
I'm not that consistent on Rally's arms myself, it's like I can't make my mind up on them.
I've been thinking of something, your lines run a little wild and the color gets outside of them in places. If you're anything like me, more planning when inking /coloring would fix that.
But you seem to always know just where to put shades, highlights and stuff like that >_> (yeah, I'm jealous) Like the shades of red on Al here for instance. Makes her fur look all thick and soft X3
I am curious what kid these two would have. *w* ...I wonder if s/he would get some kind of mineral on the forehead too? Depends if they were born the same way Rally was.
I've been thinking of something, your lines run a little wild and the color gets outside of them in places. If you're anything like me, more planning when inking /coloring would fix that.
But you seem to always know just where to put shades, highlights and stuff like that >_> (yeah, I'm jealous) Like the shades of red on Al here for instance. Makes her fur look all thick and soft X3
I am curious what kid these two would have. *w* ...I wonder if s/he would get some kind of mineral on the forehead too? Depends if they were born the same way Rally was.
Now that i look at it, you're right about the wild lines and color issues. I've been considering learning to do digital work to get away from that sketchiness. How does one plan inking? Is that like "Do the parts that would overlap firsts, then the middle areas, then the parts that would go beneath?"
Its funny you mention their kid...because i actually designed one right after I drew this. I can post if you want to see.
Its funny you mention their kid...because i actually designed one right after I drew this. I can post if you want to see.
You mentioned the kid before :D I think that's where the pairing started XD
Do the parts that would overlap firsts, then the middle areas, then the parts that would go beneath?
Hm. That sounds like one way that could work... I do these things pretty much by fingertip feel, to be honest, so it's hard to say.
I try to see the "bordering" parts of an image when inking one part of it, to know where the line is going next, so to speak. For the outline of Rally's eyes between her muzzle and her helmet in front there, I'd see the two points where the line will connect with others, and mentally map out the motion I need to start at one and stop at the other. I try to find ways to position my hand so that I can draw each line in one smooth stroke, without breaks, and split a drawing up into lines like that. If that makes any sense at all.
I ink with Staedtler fineliners... :p I start by transferring a sketch or pencil lineart to another paper via light table with a 0.05 point, and just do the most important outlines (leaving open things like eye shine and places where lines might cross - I know this is pencil, but Rally in the lower right corner is a good example of how first ink stage looks: look at her cheeks; no full outline. No places where lines might cross are filled in. Just guiding lines for the real inking. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3831590/ ). Then I start drawing the "real" lines with a 0.1 or a 0.2, and then I already have some lines to guide me. That's when I connect the lines in places they might cross, fill in little shadows and the endings of lines, and make some lines thicker, by "building" them with multiple strokes (sometimes switching pen - I use the whole range from 0.05 up to 0.7 for some drawings, from eyelashes /cross hatch in eyes to pupils and deep shadows).
Then I can also cover up for most little slips at the first stage. Since the first lines were so thin, they're easily covered up by the new ones, and I can eliminate line shakiness and the likes. To add all that detail with the first stage of inking would kill me. I'd lose focus and have to leave the image on the light table.
So I ink the same lines at least twice, sometimes more, if I want to add thickness. Like on this: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3535086/ (shadow behind her ear, thicker lines for the body outline, unconnected lines for her front markings, etc. You'll see I still forgot to add thickness on her tail - crossing first lines, there XD.)
So I give myself some room for fumbles at the first outline, and build the real lines gradually.
As for color, I try to do the parts near the outline first, since they require more minute control. (And I use markers, that freaking bleed, so I have to be careful there. With those, I also have to have some kind of plan for how I'm going to move the marker tip over a bigger area to avoid the color from drying before I can expand the colored field, so to speak, because if the first strokes dry before I can add to them, I get "lawnmower" lines >_>)
With the ProMarkers, I sometimes wait with the second stage of inking until I'm done coloring, because then I can make up for any color spill. (Doesn't work with colored pencils, because the grain messes up the markers)
I have NO idea if that was useful in any way. I can give it another try. ^^; I'm really just trying stuff out myself.
And yeah, with ink sketch, pencil lineart, inks and all, this sometimes ends me up drawing the same drawing 3 or 4 times before it's done. I keep tweaking and adding /taking things out all through.
Do the parts that would overlap firsts, then the middle areas, then the parts that would go beneath?
Hm. That sounds like one way that could work... I do these things pretty much by fingertip feel, to be honest, so it's hard to say.
I try to see the "bordering" parts of an image when inking one part of it, to know where the line is going next, so to speak. For the outline of Rally's eyes between her muzzle and her helmet in front there, I'd see the two points where the line will connect with others, and mentally map out the motion I need to start at one and stop at the other. I try to find ways to position my hand so that I can draw each line in one smooth stroke, without breaks, and split a drawing up into lines like that. If that makes any sense at all.
I ink with Staedtler fineliners... :p I start by transferring a sketch or pencil lineart to another paper via light table with a 0.05 point, and just do the most important outlines (leaving open things like eye shine and places where lines might cross - I know this is pencil, but Rally in the lower right corner is a good example of how first ink stage looks: look at her cheeks; no full outline. No places where lines might cross are filled in. Just guiding lines for the real inking. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3831590/ ). Then I start drawing the "real" lines with a 0.1 or a 0.2, and then I already have some lines to guide me. That's when I connect the lines in places they might cross, fill in little shadows and the endings of lines, and make some lines thicker, by "building" them with multiple strokes (sometimes switching pen - I use the whole range from 0.05 up to 0.7 for some drawings, from eyelashes /cross hatch in eyes to pupils and deep shadows).
Then I can also cover up for most little slips at the first stage. Since the first lines were so thin, they're easily covered up by the new ones, and I can eliminate line shakiness and the likes. To add all that detail with the first stage of inking would kill me. I'd lose focus and have to leave the image on the light table.
So I ink the same lines at least twice, sometimes more, if I want to add thickness. Like on this: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3535086/ (shadow behind her ear, thicker lines for the body outline, unconnected lines for her front markings, etc. You'll see I still forgot to add thickness on her tail - crossing first lines, there XD.)
So I give myself some room for fumbles at the first outline, and build the real lines gradually.
As for color, I try to do the parts near the outline first, since they require more minute control. (And I use markers, that freaking bleed, so I have to be careful there. With those, I also have to have some kind of plan for how I'm going to move the marker tip over a bigger area to avoid the color from drying before I can expand the colored field, so to speak, because if the first strokes dry before I can add to them, I get "lawnmower" lines >_>)
With the ProMarkers, I sometimes wait with the second stage of inking until I'm done coloring, because then I can make up for any color spill. (Doesn't work with colored pencils, because the grain messes up the markers)
I have NO idea if that was useful in any way. I can give it another try. ^^; I'm really just trying stuff out myself.
And yeah, with ink sketch, pencil lineart, inks and all, this sometimes ends me up drawing the same drawing 3 or 4 times before it's done. I keep tweaking and adding /taking things out all through.
wow..that's way more than i was anticipating. o-o I tried to be more careful when inking the last few things i've uploaded, but obviously that was before i read all of this. Maybe i'll invest in some better pens...i'll also need to try transferring the image. Thank you for the suggestions~ *off to work on inking*
I wanted to give a real answer, as best I could. I'm no art teacher; I don't always know what I'm doing, but I've tried to become more aware of it lately. Simply so I can repeat it even when I'm not totally focused and on a creative roll.
And I really like your art, so if I can help you with it in any way, I'm totally happy. :)
I used to nurture the outlook that my drawings just kind of magically appeared out of my hands when I was in the right mood. I was afraid that being aware of what I was doing would stunt me, but I feel that the more control I take over certain aspects of the process, the more I free my creative ability.
On that note, I'm starting to try out cross hatch. It's going to be fun seeing what I can do with it. Will train my patience as well.
And I really like your art, so if I can help you with it in any way, I'm totally happy. :)
I used to nurture the outlook that my drawings just kind of magically appeared out of my hands when I was in the right mood. I was afraid that being aware of what I was doing would stunt me, but I feel that the more control I take over certain aspects of the process, the more I free my creative ability.
On that note, I'm starting to try out cross hatch. It's going to be fun seeing what I can do with it. Will train my patience as well.
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