Look out he's got a bone!

the other gt a mouse lol

Oh yeah hey, didn't see that.

where's Kelvin?

kelvin is an actual SI unit, so hes too awesome to show up in a pic with these 2 goons

lol

i mean come on! "builing point of water at atmospheric preasure" and "his wifes armpit" as reference points...
nonesense! absolute zero is how i role! X3

*boiling point

i just pray we never hit absolute zero >_>

cause the "theory" is, everything will end, cause it will suck the energy from EVERYTHING...

cause its a point of infinate lack of energy

i dont think so, simply because not possible according to the laws thermodynamics^^ if you would reach absolute zero this system (a single atom or molecule for example) would be fully removed from the rest of the universe because it wouldnt be able to transfer energy anymore.

and besides, the system always keeps its zero-point energy, its impossible to extract every last bit of energy

lol, like i said "theory" i know there are more, but thats the only one i know...

another theory says that you would be able to make perfect crystals at absolute zero. that would be pretty handy, too :P

lots of theories, no definate answer, lol

Yeah, except that nothing MOVES at absolute zero, not even time!
(this also is a theory)

exactly! the entropy = S, ΔS = 0. nothing happens X3 you cant get something out of a crystal if it wont move anymore :P if you want to move it you have to use engery and thus you are not at absolute zero anymore.
but once something with energy enters the system everything would start moving again. its not like everything that enters the system will stop moving as well because the total energy in the entire system is greater than one then. the energy cant just disappear^^

but it would make sense that time stops in a system at absolute zero... if everything stops you cant distinguish between certain moments anymore. like, at all. and once you put energy back into the system it would start moving again, relatively to its last condition. so "for the molecule" time stopped :P

It's been tried to reach absolute zero already and they've only gotten VERY close..about 13 degrees off or so if I can recall, and it was only for a few milliseconds. It's currently impossible to create absolute zero here on earth. But out in space, it could be possible.

they've actually gotten to 1 kelvin, or maybe even lower (but above 0)

Yea, the number's actually lower than 1 Kelvin, but it's still higher than 0 Kelvin.

woops, wrong comment^^ sowwy :3

no wait, i DID get the right comment!

about temps. close to absolute zero: they got VERY close to it already. like just a few degrees. superfluid helium is a good example for this^^ if you get helium barely above absolute zero it turns into a clear and very calm liquid that creeps out of any container as a very thin film until the container is empty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI

I think, he is pulling our leg, with the song;She is cold as ice...

Kelvin kicks both their fuzzy butts.

that's LORD Kelvin!

Ah, we're close, I can kill him Kelvin.

Go Celsius!

I love it, great work!

YAY FOR CELSUIS!!!

Agreed :)

Wow. This is awesome! Very nice work!

Celsius is like Metric and 24-hour-time to me; it may make the most sense, but I'm so used to the other way of doing it I can't really switch.

I'm still waiting for metric time. It's simple to figure out a conversion from weight to dollars, since they are both decimal, but it's not as easy to figure out dollars per minute.

Very nice - and also one of my favorite science factoids to boot! Great job on the character interaction... that and the mouse in Mr Celcius' pocket.

Why can't science always be this intresting XP loves it lol

really great work wow

That should probably be "Heating up", not "Hotting up" xD,,,

Awesome work ^^. Love their expressions xD.

thats the first thing i noticed to

everyone knows we should be using Kelvins .. arff

I still call it centigrade hehe, but i prefer Kelvin that way you know when its hot outside.

haha, haste klasse umgesetzt XD sieht gut aus!

Pointless. Like MPH and KPH.


England for example has BOTH scales.


And personally ME.... i'm inflatin car tyres to 2.3 atmospheres. But inflating Bike to 30 psi. Because for bike's weight that's more handy scale. So..... we don't need pointless fights, guys.

Québec too, and it's a mess! LOL
I was totally confusing a friend in Belgium trying to explain to him that here in Québec, the ambient temperature is in C, the water temperature of a swimming pool is in F, sizes of people are in feet and inches while distances are in meters/kilometers, the weight of someone is in pound but the weight of meat at the grocery is in grams. Etc. :p It's the kind of things you need to be born in not to get confused. ;)

I didn't realize they were stuck in no man's land on that. Almost every place I've been to goes with one systen or the other.

Well to be fair, things have been slowly slowly slowly changing in the last 50 years or so. The metric system is gaining but habits are hard to change. And then children learn to refer to what their parents use, etc. So, yeah, no man's land indeed for the moment. :p

I remember back in the 70's when the US was going to change over. Then everyone got cold feet and said, "we can't do it."

At work, I issue travel permits to PQ, and this explains why my blood pressure hits the 250 mark, lol!

science and a picture=Awesome

Your avatar made me laugh so much! :D

lol I get alot of compliments on it

Nun fehlt nur noch William Thomson, der Kelvin repräsentiert :>

Oh my god! Education. On Furaffinity. What is the world coming to?!

It has to happen somewhere! We all know it's not happening in schools anymore ;)

This is true.

Degrees F is more accurate, thus more useful.

I'm not quite sure I understand how you arrive at that conclusion.

"Fahrenheit added a further fixed reference point: the temperature of an equilibrium mixture of ice and salt-saturated water, which he defined as the zero point of his scale. Unfortunately, the use of three reference points added ambiguity rather than precision--the value of a degree varies by over 8% depending on which two of his reference points you choose. "

http://www.straightdope.com/columns.....erature-scales


Converting between F and C is a fairly simple procedure, there are places in the conversion that are exact and even a place that both are equal (-40C = -40F).

You could argue that 100 F is more accurate because the C conversion gives a decimal that gets rounded.
But if I told you something was 99 C exactly you'd have to go into decimals F to get an approximation.

Freezing water is an exact conversion between C and F, so is boiling. 0 C = 32 F / 100 C = 212 F

Neither C nor F is inherently more accurate than the other.

There are more degrees between Freezing and Boiling on the F scale.

I think I see what you are trying to say, but I still don't think that's a very stable position to take.

Because if simply having more steps is more accurate, why even bother with larger units for measuring things. Why not just simply say we have to drive 52800 feet to the store, it would be more accurate than saying 5 miles, even though they are exactly the same.

0C = 32 F = Freezing. Same thing.
100C = 212 F = Boiling. Same thing.

*shrug*

*facepalm*...

10milez not 5

centigrade gosh darnit :(

Neither of which is at all accurate due to rapid and considerable variances in altitude, barometric pressure, and air density. We've just grown used to them. Fahrenheit allows for a more discernible difference in local temperature readings because to change one degree in C may have a considerably different 'feel' on the observer.

100 degrees in one place could be 92 only a hundred feet away due to any number of small annoying factors.

Me, I don't care which one they use. I grew up using F, so that's what I use. Likewise with measurement... Standard v/ Metric is just flat annoying. The US should give it up and simply switch to the global majority rather than trying to force the globe to continue using ours out of sheer pride.

Agreed.

Yay for Celsius

Lol that's awesome. ^^

Fahrenheit for the win!

it's all hotting up

Brilliant concept - I love it!

Go Celsuis! *realizes he's rooting for the cat*
Can I imagine Celsius is the labradoodle?

but armpits give accurate temperature :p

I have my own temperature scale, instead of 180D separation, we do it in terms of Radians (Pi) and we also have the Imaginary number (Complex Numbers in A+Bi format) to deal with negative numbers ;)

metric sistem rules, fuck standar

I like Fahrenheit because it is easily translatable into circles and triangles.

Nice XD
And quite relevant actually. I was shocked to hear the weather given in Farenheit on British TV the other day. One of the first times I've ever heard it on any non-American broadcast. Confused the hell out of me XD

Hmmm, very interesting, I like the pic and the information in it, I have been educated today lol.

Yeah... those Scientists DO look mad!

"It's all hotting up for the fight of the century."
Is "hotting up" grammatically correct here, or should it be "heating up"? Just wondering.
Anyways, nice picture. I really like the expressions. :3

Thank you once again Tani on behalf of the convention and the staff for producing so much wonderful work for us.

Celsius, makes much more sense than Fahrenheit

Celsius - Fahrenheit ... I always thought it was Canine - Feline.
But according to the picture I missinterpreted. :P
But I'm too lazy to switch so it stays 22°Canine. ;)
Awesome work!

CELSIUS FOREVER! *punches the air*

They both have their uses. Fahrenheit is typically what people personally experience day to day (0<->100). Celsius is more manageable because it's more linear towards the elements. Kelvin's just a shifted scale of celsius so it's like his mistress or something. :3

..Now we need porn of these two double penetrating Kelvin. ;B

Its a little more than just simply shifted...but the conversion is a simple shift.

Mathematically Kelvin is MUCH easier to work with. If you double or half the temperature of something in Kelvin you get a sane result. But try to half (or double) the temperature of something @ 0C



Its just odd math wise when you use a measurement system where a negative value is considered a normal occurrence. It would be weird to have a shoe size system normalized to the average size of a human foot, and then have people have smaller feet wearing negative sizes. Or what if we normalized height to the average, could you imagine being 5'4" and instead referring to yourself as being -4" tall ? Heck what if we had the speedometer in our cars normalized to standard highway speeds and speed limits in the city set at -30mph.

Temperature is one of the few measurement systems in everyday use that doesn't start at 0, the Kelvin(or Rankin) system attempts to address this but well we've already got 2 different systems in place and we are used to them, I can only imagine what it would be like to suddenly start thinking of a normal day 21 C (70 F) as being 294 K (530 Rankin).

"Oh its gonna be another beautiful day honey, they think the high will be 530 today"

*uses kelvin more than either of he other two* ;P

And it is a simple shift. A very simple shift. It's celsius' linearity projected back onto absolute zero instead of freezing. And on your note about negative temperatures...celsius actually hits negative before fahrenheit. ;P So if you're saying negative's an inefficient system, then you're saying celsius is more inefficient. And there's a linear conversion between C and F.

So the argument between the two is null. Just depends on what you use and is a personal preference in the end.

Nah not saying inefficient, just saying in some calculations it can behave oddly, and yeah as a chem major currently its been kinda fun to get the hang of using C and K for most of the calculations.

Efficiency and Accuracy aren't really part of the problem, as those are usually due to procedure or instrument limitations.

Mmhm. Lol @ billionth accuracy mass scales. Just walking by them makes them freak out, it's funny.

yeah! You look at some of the scales funny and they freak out.

Your post get me one think: Scientists talks a lot about negative energy. Now it is still yet a theory (or I should say hypothesis instead?) but when we discover how to
make enough of this "stuff" for practical use we will have got again a negative/positive measurement in physics!

Oh the things we do for science.

LOL

the only down side to celsius is the degrees of separation are to close together. fahrenheit can give a more detailed reading. :Ð .............. unless you want to use decimals.

Kelvin -> http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008.....ssorBadass.jpg :D

Boo, Celcius, yay, Farenheit!

did i just learn something new?

it's very traumatizing, I'd give you seven months to recover from this deadly incident :D

this is what we call SCIENCE my dear Watson maw ha haaaa

I think the worlds measurement should be standardized.. one way or another, id be more then willing to give up my miles for kilometers any day.

I hate to sound rude, but Celsius is a bitch and should suck it. The point of Fahrenhiet is to measure an inbetween of the human bodies tolerence. Celsius is to vague and generalized.

I'm cheering for Celcius myself, heheh. Or Centigrade. I switch between the two almost mid-sentence at times.

But I'm biased. :P

Fun fact; Mr. Celsius himself would beat the crap out of anyone calling it centigrade.
I prefer the celsius scale shifted -273.15 degrees though. Kelvin for life, but I'm biased... ^^
Which reminds me, I need a new lab coat...

Instant fave

I relate to the old standard units better, but have to use both Metric and standard at work. On the old English bikes, I sometimes have to use Imperial units for volume, and have to have a third set of wrenches (whitworth). Don't even get me started on the old pre-metric English thread patterns :grrr:
I wish we would settle on just one system, it'd be for the best, really.

Why don't we just use Kelvin? It makes more sense! AHHH

Bone-mouse

Impressive

This is very awesome! Amazing artwork with smarts thrown in. 5 stars!

I feel proud over how Anders Celsius is swedish like me :D

I live in US yet I like to use Celsius myself. Easier to understand and I now have trained my mind to understand what clothing for Celsius temp.

Fahrenheit is the most ridiculous temperature out there! C is Such a better one to go on! It cant be more simple! 0 is 0, 100 is 100 and 40 is 40. instead of these arbitrary numbers someone spouted off.

Still wish the US would switch to metric, I mean I live in the US and I prefer the metric system because it is so much easier but the only problem is that everyone else here seems to think otherwise and I am forced to use standard much more often that I can never get a feel of how long/heavy/etc. something is in metric.

AWESOME! ^^

Go Celsius =^_^=

I loll'd. Go Celsius Go!!!

Endlich mal Bildung in Form von Furry-Bildern!

Dear me... what does Lord Kelvin think of this?

Being an American, I really do have to say that both the metric system and the Celsuis temp system makes a lot more sense really, especially on a scientific scale. Also my dad's been agreeing because he now has a job where metric system is a lot more useful and he has to work with European folks a lot too.

Agreed, we just have to do everything backwards in this country. Daylight Savings time... Why? Clearly it's easier to have the whole country change it's clocks twice a year instead of farmers setting their alarms an hour earlier. Clearly.

Yes...And I absolutely LOATHE getting up a fucking hour earlier!! >.<

I have a thermodynamics exam next week; this is relevant to my interests.

I really love the details and the faces. i love the catlike contempt Celcius is showing on his face. Utter confidence is wonderful. Really nice heh.

Education on FA? Nuuuu!!! Make it stop make it stop! AAAAHHH!!

I kid. Awesome pic :)

What about Kelvin!

That's definitely the best of your pictures . Both furry characters and the interesting historical background are groovy

Very funny

Very Funny)))

Physics is full of jokes))

Fahrenheit is pretty senseless.

Good that scientists usually use Kelvins... There are no arguments between them at least. Although Kelvins are just shifted Celsius degrees, so it's basically the same. I could never get the Fahrenheit's sense. Celsius scale is pretty natural, and very convenient for everyday use. Well... it's almost the same as with inches, feet, yards... None of them are based on the powers of 10. This makes recalculating values even harder... And something like pressure... pouds per square inch XD This makes me laugh really hard :D

gotta love the conversion formula for them tho. nice job.

F=1.8*C+32 C=(F-32)/1.8 I use them every day for my job, depending on where the equipment came from its in F or C... -.-

i see.

i finally understand

I'm glad there's a furry version of the Celsius versus Fahrenheit debate.

This represented a noticeable void in modern culture.

Celsius makes way more sense than Fahrenheit :P

This is awesome. All it lacks is Lord Kelvin as a lion sitting high up on a pedestal above the two. :P

I like that, "the more logical [...] metric system." I sure don't know why the imperial system is so popular in the US but its just that, illogical... The metric system is so much easier to use, not to mention its becoming more common, even on US vehicles! I have yet to find a SAE bolt head in my Ford...

Lol, I have often wondered this (I'm a nerd...). Nicely illustrated :)

Wait a second...why does it say the boiling is 0°C and the freezing is 100°C meh

*laughs* Yeah, I was thinking that too. This whole time everyone's going on about "hotted" when the temperatures for freezing and boiling are backwards and you and I seem to be the only two that noticed. :)

Very cute Tani. Though I'm sure as long as there are stubborn people in the world, there will never be an answer to this.

Yeah, hail Farenheit! \m/ Fuck the rest of the world, we will measure our freezing point and damn way we please!

The way America works best. *snrk*

hehe furry science jokes.

Celcius makes WAAAAAY more sense than Farenheit!

Hmmmm, Kelvin macht am meisten Sinn und ist leichter zu berechnen
Aber da hier nur °C und °F zur Verfügung stehen....Celsius FTW xD

BTW, I love this idea for a conbook. Who are some of the other artists that will be featured in the book? I'd love to see what they've come up with.

Exotic work of art, Tani! Fascinating way to draw for this topic!

Fahrenheit for the win!

There could always be the Newton scale.

I much prefer Celsisu. It makes so much more sense. 0 and 100 is easier to remember than 32 and 212.

LOL! I understood all of that. I'm such a nerd!

what about Kelvin?

Celsius..

Typical us swedish bastards =D

Kelvin wins anyway :)

I like this!

I now understand both temperature scales and I learned through anthro art rather than the 17+ years I attended school o.o

Science themed furry pics are total win! *cheers for the Celsius camp*

You didn't explain why Fahrenheit used the references 0, 32, and 96! I know they don't make any sense now, but back then it was essential to creating a good thermometer...way better than the Celsius scale! Glass making was VERY inexact back then. Making a glass tube always created regions of thick and thin inner diameters throughout the length, so every single thermometer had to be calibrated by a chemist when the received it by marking the temperatures themselves. How did they do it? By using two very simple things every chemist had access to, and that were usually the same no matter where you go: body temperature and ice water. Now, why didn't they use a 0-100 scale? Simple! You can't divide 100 evenly by 4, 8, 16, and so on, buy you can divide them evenly into 32, which made creating a reliable scale much easier!

Later, they will have to debate the merits of coke vs pepsi.

Go Celsius. Fahrenheit is stupid, just like the rest of American measurement. (I can say this because I'm American.)

The Siamese is going to kill the doggy! Run doggy!

I love this. How very creative. *gives you a metric clock* Look, it's 10 o'clock! :D

Kelvin owns celsius and fahrenheit.

Who keeps the metric system down? We dooooo! We dooooo!

I'm on teh cat's side..

I never understood Fahrenheit...

Celsius was devised in respect to water, Kelvin was devised in respect to absolute zero. Fahrenheit just seems the odd one out.