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that's what all automobiles should look like.
they'd make great novelty planter boxes.
yes i know i'm a nut, but motor fuels won't always be there.
little trains just big enough to ride on or in may some day replace them.
i know i'm not likely to live long enough to see that happen,
but i can imagine it, and imagine living in a world in which it has.
of course if there's no fuel for cars, well i'm imagining those little trains
propelled by flywheels and batteries with onboard solar recharging,
or from the grid at station stops.
(and the grid from wind/solar and every other way of not burning anything)
they'd make great novelty planter boxes.
yes i know i'm a nut, but motor fuels won't always be there.
little trains just big enough to ride on or in may some day replace them.
i know i'm not likely to live long enough to see that happen,
but i can imagine it, and imagine living in a world in which it has.
of course if there's no fuel for cars, well i'm imagining those little trains
propelled by flywheels and batteries with onboard solar recharging,
or from the grid at station stops.
(and the grid from wind/solar and every other way of not burning anything)
in all reality there would be a way to keep a car like this running even if there was no fossil fuels, Ethanol is a fuel that can possibly burn much more efficiently, also it is much safer for the environment, all you need do is modify the engine a tiny bit and you have internal combustion with another fuel, also Ethanol is highly renewable so no problems there either
yes, i expect there will be internal combustion hobbyists, like there are live steam hobbyists now.
with their club roads in some park somewhere with their methane digesters to fuel them from.
where i grew up, the company that delivered the propane we heated and cooked with, had all their trucks running off of it.
i still think though, as long as we let ourselves remain locked into the box of not thinking beyond the use of combustion to generate energy and propel transportation, whatever the motivation for doing so, the rest of it is pretty much penny wise and dollar foolish.
its good that people have started thinking about the environment, but still too few, even of those who do, really understand why it is as important as it is.
it's not just a matter of what we put into the air, its where the air itself comes from in the first place.
and we can have every bit of the technology that gives us usefulness and gratification without burning anything.
though some of it may look a little different then we've been previously used to.
with their club roads in some park somewhere with their methane digesters to fuel them from.
where i grew up, the company that delivered the propane we heated and cooked with, had all their trucks running off of it.
i still think though, as long as we let ourselves remain locked into the box of not thinking beyond the use of combustion to generate energy and propel transportation, whatever the motivation for doing so, the rest of it is pretty much penny wise and dollar foolish.
its good that people have started thinking about the environment, but still too few, even of those who do, really understand why it is as important as it is.
it's not just a matter of what we put into the air, its where the air itself comes from in the first place.
and we can have every bit of the technology that gives us usefulness and gratification without burning anything.
though some of it may look a little different then we've been previously used to.
while I can see your point, I can't see myself driving anything but internal combustion vehicles. yes I may be stuck in the past, but it is what I love, vehicles had a ton more style back then, and in my eye, are the most beautiful vehicles ever created. so yes, the masses can go to new types of power, but I have to stick to what I love.
well I think that this country is too stagnant to make any changes that drastic, we cannot fathom what life would be like with a major change of that nature, and drastic changes will only come with a long time wait, I most certainly don't think that changes in the nature of which you speak will happen within my lifetime, and as somebody stuck in the past, I can say that if it did happen, I would fight it as hard as I can. as I said, I am stuck in the past, so I must not go against my nature
well its precisely because of that very stagnation, and opposition to change, that conditions that force change happen. the car hasn't always been america's god either. when i was born (62 years ago in 1948) less then half the population had them. (not to mention there was only 1/4 the population if that, with more then twice the public transportation. 20 times per capita. and not just in the cities either.)
well give yourself a couple of more decades and you'll almost certainly observe that everything you might think never changes, because it hadn't yet in your own life time, or even that of parents, grand parents and even great grand parents, can, and eventually does.
the america i was born into, as was the car in that picture, still took pride in having had, not too many decades previously, and would still have been able to regain, had it chosen to go that way, as has europe and asia instead, the best system(s) of public transportation on the face of the planet. (although those who tried to claim it still did, were already deluding themselves)
it also took pride in the freedom, that if you didn't live in a city, and what you were building wasn't intended to be multiple for rent occupancy, you could pretty much build and live in any damd thing you wanted to.
those were the real freedoms it has long since sold down the river for the non-gratifications of ostentation and the pseudo-sophistries of excitement addiction.
what i love and respect is the kind of world we all have to live in. some ways of doing things are better for how they make the experience of living in it better, and some worse. and that some which may seem better in the short term of a single life time, can and do, make it much worse, a very short time longer.
wasteful excess of consumption, is one of those things, that one part of the planet, ours, has been living on, for getting pretty close, to as long as it is possible to do so.
the america i was born into, as was the car in that picture, still took pride in having had, not too many decades previously, and would still have been able to regain, had it chosen to go that way, as has europe and asia instead, the best system(s) of public transportation on the face of the planet. (although those who tried to claim it still did, were already deluding themselves)
it also took pride in the freedom, that if you didn't live in a city, and what you were building wasn't intended to be multiple for rent occupancy, you could pretty much build and live in any damd thing you wanted to.
those were the real freedoms it has long since sold down the river for the non-gratifications of ostentation and the pseudo-sophistries of excitement addiction.
what i love and respect is the kind of world we all have to live in. some ways of doing things are better for how they make the experience of living in it better, and some worse. and that some which may seem better in the short term of a single life time, can and do, make it much worse, a very short time longer.
wasteful excess of consumption, is one of those things, that one part of the planet, ours, has been living on, for getting pretty close, to as long as it is possible to do so.
this is true, I must concede the wisdom in your words. I don't know, although there are some new things I would like to have, I do think that this countries downfall has been consumerism. at one point in time, well even some of the day you had been just knee high to a grasshopper, people didn't need to have the newest of anything, if they bought something, clothes being a main example, and cars are no exception, people expected what they got to last for longer than 5 years. but in these days of age, people will buy what's hot for the week. I don't see the individuality that was so prominent in the days you grew up, in fact most people are just trying to clone this person or that one. These are the reasons that I think that real change won't happen too soon, anybody who thinks outside the box is chastised, and ridiculed, actions that only promote stagnation, and I'm not saying I would join any severe change in the automotive world, but I would like to see it in the socioeconomic spectrum. and in a way, I do believe we need to look beyond our shores at what has been happening in other countries in order to fix what is broken. I don't know, I may just be yammering on.
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