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Covid-19 Pandemic panic
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Today I headed out to try and find by PURE DUMB LUCK some hand sanitizer or bleach. Plus I was seriously craving to obtain something thats NOT peanut butter, but deli meat.
I hit four grocery stores. Not ONE place had any toilet paper, not even the crappy single ply single rolls. ZERO kleenix tissues, paper towels, wipes, even baby wipes. Also ZERO beans, rice, pasta, many canned foods. The deli meats were scarce and what they had was double the price from last week. (Oddly Vegan stock had full shelves!)
No, I got zero deli meat, too broke to afford the deli prices. My shop I work at has seriously felt the effects of the panic and a serious drop in business. I'm financially in panic mode myself!
Oh and the regular luncheon meats were depleted as well. Only chicken stock like Tysons chicken was the crappy, made from ground up bits left over from processing shaped like dinosaurs nuggets that taste like shit anyway. And I cannot afford to buy butcher fresh cuts!
Welcome to New Venezuela!! Thats right, its starting to look like photos of grocery stores in Venezuela...or North Korea (not government run propaganda stores the NK handlers take Western visitors too!).
No, assholes are in panic mode thanks to the media hype and inflated paranoia and grabbing anything and everything, and worse yet, in multiples beyond reasonable needs. And worse yet, scalpers of said hard to find items!! War Profiteers I recall the terminology was once used 70 plus years ago. Whats next? Actual rationing? Lines to buy certain things daily?
Use some damn sense people!! STOP HOARDING!!! STOP BEING OVERLY PARANOID!!
Cause otherwise its going to be Beyond Thunderdome if the assholishness continues!!
Today I headed out to try and find by PURE DUMB LUCK some hand sanitizer or bleach. Plus I was seriously craving to obtain something thats NOT peanut butter, but deli meat.
I hit four grocery stores. Not ONE place had any toilet paper, not even the crappy single ply single rolls. ZERO kleenix tissues, paper towels, wipes, even baby wipes. Also ZERO beans, rice, pasta, many canned foods. The deli meats were scarce and what they had was double the price from last week. (Oddly Vegan stock had full shelves!)
No, I got zero deli meat, too broke to afford the deli prices. My shop I work at has seriously felt the effects of the panic and a serious drop in business. I'm financially in panic mode myself!
Oh and the regular luncheon meats were depleted as well. Only chicken stock like Tysons chicken was the crappy, made from ground up bits left over from processing shaped like dinosaurs nuggets that taste like shit anyway. And I cannot afford to buy butcher fresh cuts!
Welcome to New Venezuela!! Thats right, its starting to look like photos of grocery stores in Venezuela...or North Korea (not government run propaganda stores the NK handlers take Western visitors too!).
No, assholes are in panic mode thanks to the media hype and inflated paranoia and grabbing anything and everything, and worse yet, in multiples beyond reasonable needs. And worse yet, scalpers of said hard to find items!! War Profiteers I recall the terminology was once used 70 plus years ago. Whats next? Actual rationing? Lines to buy certain things daily?
Use some damn sense people!! STOP HOARDING!!! STOP BEING OVERLY PARANOID!!
Cause otherwise its going to be Beyond Thunderdome if the assholishness continues!!
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It's going to get worse for me since I have allergies. I can only rely on a handkerchief for so long until I get fed up with using them and want to move on to something made for blowing a nose into. I'm just glad allergy medicine is still available (for the time being anyway, until China pulls the plug on pharmaceutical product shipments).
These two skeevy fuckers from Tennessee acquired 17,000 bottles of hand sanitizer in order to sell it on Amazon at a markup, only to be stuck with it when Amazon started banning gougers. They were forced to give 1/3 to charity, a 1/3 to the Tennessee authorities, and the final third to Kentucky.
Idiots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/.....-donation.html
Idiots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/.....-donation.html
Actually bought a 4-pk of TP at Dollar Tree this afternoon. Also some Nutty Buddies, frozen shrimp, and a pork egg roll. Wanted a tube of Lay's potato crisps, but they didn't open another case. Forgot to check for facial tissue though. Much of the cleaning supplies were gone, especially anything bleach.
Gas here is about $1.80/gal. I'm filling up some gas cans tomorrow.
Gas here is about $1.80/gal. I'm filling up some gas cans tomorrow.
This whole thing is ridiculous. The hand sanitizer shortage I get but IDK why people felt they needed to hoard paper products for this virus. Now I'm unable to get the stuff I need for everyday shopping because of it and it's infuriating. I still have TP and hand sanitizer at home and I'm hoping it will last long enough until this bullshit blows over and supply is plentiful again.
It's a flu, not nuclear holocaust people!
It's a flu, not nuclear holocaust people!
Yup...My friends SAID they wanted to prep but...
"the poky-klypse wont ever happen...those doomsday dudes are silly..."
"No you idiots but the economy will be crashing at some point...there WILL be a disruption/s in the supply chain and civil disruptions/riots/crime/curfew/etc...Prolly have to be stocked up for 2 weeks to a month but have to be prepped..."
"Well we'll see it coming and just goto walmart before it gets empty..."
"Sigh...this will not be a hurricaine it'll be a tornado..."
"meh"
So theyre being scared now...
SIGH.
"the poky-klypse wont ever happen...those doomsday dudes are silly..."
"No you idiots but the economy will be crashing at some point...there WILL be a disruption/s in the supply chain and civil disruptions/riots/crime/curfew/etc...Prolly have to be stocked up for 2 weeks to a month but have to be prepped..."
"Well we'll see it coming and just goto walmart before it gets empty..."
"Sigh...this will not be a hurricaine it'll be a tornado..."
"meh"
So theyre being scared now...
SIGH.
Well, paper towels you can understand - wiping down things you're disinfecting.
As far as the TP goes? Hah, that's easy. People react to emergencies in the: what do I need to keep myself feeling comfortable if supplies are cut off?
Apparently, not leaving skid marks in your drawers ranks up there.
As far as the TP goes? Hah, that's easy. People react to emergencies in the: what do I need to keep myself feeling comfortable if supplies are cut off?
Apparently, not leaving skid marks in your drawers ranks up there.
Yup, Governor Milktoast is following Illinois and Michigan's lead and playing follow the leader. Even Madison's own PC thought police type of Mayor enacted before Evers did by banning ALL gatherings of 50 or more and demanding restaurants go to carry out and delivery only!
CO just closed all the restaurants in the same way: Only delivery, take out, or "room service" allowed. To add insult to injury, Pueblo also banned foam/plastic takeout containers or plastic bags for drive thru or takeout earlier in the month, so those places are going to be screwed now.
CO has also closed gyms, theaters, and casinos. And also all DMVs, though they'll still allow online renewals. Going to suck to be the bunch of people who can't renew on line, since there are multiple restrictions to it. And they're "strongly encouraging" (may lead to outright ban) any gathering over 10 people.
Most of the buffets and sit-down joints are going to be closing, from what the manager at the place wuff ate at yesterday said. Even "door dash" and uber eats stuff won't be enough to keep the lights on for them, if they even offer it. Many are starting with a 2 week closure. Which isn't going to help their employees at all.
At least the delivery joints ought to eventually see an uptick, since you can't by food from empty market shelves and you can't go out to eat now.
CO has also closed gyms, theaters, and casinos. And also all DMVs, though they'll still allow online renewals. Going to suck to be the bunch of people who can't renew on line, since there are multiple restrictions to it. And they're "strongly encouraging" (may lead to outright ban) any gathering over 10 people.
Most of the buffets and sit-down joints are going to be closing, from what the manager at the place wuff ate at yesterday said. Even "door dash" and uber eats stuff won't be enough to keep the lights on for them, if they even offer it. Many are starting with a 2 week closure. Which isn't going to help their employees at all.
At least the delivery joints ought to eventually see an uptick, since you can't by food from empty market shelves and you can't go out to eat now.
Yeah, its hit me hard , very hard, I normally have my rent by the 15th, 17th at the latest. I'm just over half way towards rent. Plus the University ordered all the students away for at minimum one month, and thats half my deliveries, and despite the cheap assholes most of them are tip-wise, its hurting with them gone more.
I'm freaking how I am going to get the bills paid this month as well. I still need normalcy in my life as well with a replacement bird, but have doubts the annual bird fair will happen April 5th. Even though its only a 4 hour fair, the site location may ban it.
I'm freaking how I am going to get the bills paid this month as well. I still need normalcy in my life as well with a replacement bird, but have doubts the annual bird fair will happen April 5th. Even though its only a 4 hour fair, the site location may ban it.
151 rum and KY jelly. As long as you keep the ethanol over 60%, it works, according to the CDC. Also, 70% ethanol is what we use to clean lab benches in the culture lab. BevMo had like 12 bottles of cheap 151, probably tastes nasty but it’s a good enough reagent. Hidden resources.
70% isopropyl alcohol is very effective sanitizer, any higher and it is not as effective. Put it in a little spritz bottle and you can disinfect your hands, the public toilet seat or what have you for months. I've seen all the bleach and hand sanitizer gone but the isopropyl alcohol isle full and forlorn.
Might want to recheck your math. Putting 250ml of 90% alcohol into a 1000ml bottle then adding 750ml of water will not make a 70% solution of alcohol. 250ml of 90% means you only have 225ml of alcohol to start with and 25ml of water to add to the 750ml for a total of 775ml of water in a 1000ml container. That means you have a solution of 22.5% of alcohol. Not enough to give a virus a bad hair day. 20% water and 80% 90% alcohol will get you to the 70% mark. 60% is the absolute minimum for an effective sanitizer according to the CDC. Alcohol needs water to allow the poison to penetrate deep into the organism to fuck up it's proteins, High percentage alcohol only fucks up the outer proteins and doesn't kill as well.
Ammo panic and frantic arms sales have started, this time no massacre has happened at a school to have Trump say he'll ban guns to spark a panic.
I popped by Cabelahs tonight...Not a single round of 9mm to be had, not even defensive loads. .45ACP was all but wiped out, I grabbed 2 boxes of Herters 10MM cause they had it at $18 for 50 rounds over the regular $29-32 a box for 10MM. They had a single box of .357Sig left I passed on, I may grab that tomorrow if it still sits there, I rarely find that caliber.
I popped by Cabelahs tonight...Not a single round of 9mm to be had, not even defensive loads. .45ACP was all but wiped out, I grabbed 2 boxes of Herters 10MM cause they had it at $18 for 50 rounds over the regular $29-32 a box for 10MM. They had a single box of .357Sig left I passed on, I may grab that tomorrow if it still sits there, I rarely find that caliber.
There used to be a commercial for a water softener that ran locally...
*kids playing with water balloons in the front yard.*
*an errant balloon hits a parked minivan*
*minivan flips onto it's side*
"Got hard water?"
That commercial always made me laugh. =P But yeah, same here. Our tap water is kinda hard and bleh tasting, but it's perfectly healthy. Now, if the power failed and the lines depressurized, then I'd be concerned.
*kids playing with water balloons in the front yard.*
*an errant balloon hits a parked minivan*
*minivan flips onto it's side*
"Got hard water?"
That commercial always made me laugh. =P But yeah, same here. Our tap water is kinda hard and bleh tasting, but it's perfectly healthy. Now, if the power failed and the lines depressurized, then I'd be concerned.
Yeah gotta get some good storage jugs to stock up and a good cheap filter I saved all my arizona tea jugs (Some folks think I have a problem...*Smirk* and I got a small camping filter from hell-mart years ago when I was more active...)...in case the thing gets REALLY bad and the tap gets shut off...
Humans have survived since the first humanoid swung down from a tree and stood on the savanna without toilet paper. It has only been around about 100 years, you can live without it. Trust me.
No bread in the stores? I bet you can find flour, milk and eggs untouched in the stores and with a connection to the internet, you can learn to make your own. It isn't hard.
No bread in the stores? I bet you can find flour, milk and eggs untouched in the stores and with a connection to the internet, you can learn to make your own. It isn't hard.
Actually, the St Patricks holiday brings a GREAT tip for those missing the taste of bread: Irish Soda Bread!
The traditional recipe only needs 4 ingredients; flour, salt, baking soda (NOT Baking Powder!) and Buttermilk. You can "fancy it up" by adding eggs, butter, sugar, raisins, etc., but none of that is necessary.
There's plenty of recipes on line for how much of each ingredient is needed for creation. The traditional form is a "quick bread", so no kneading is necessary.
Can't get much simpler than that!
The traditional recipe only needs 4 ingredients; flour, salt, baking soda (NOT Baking Powder!) and Buttermilk. You can "fancy it up" by adding eggs, butter, sugar, raisins, etc., but none of that is necessary.
There's plenty of recipes on line for how much of each ingredient is needed for creation. The traditional form is a "quick bread", so no kneading is necessary.
Can't get much simpler than that!
Or some of the Bannock recipes - you can make that simple bread by a campfire or if you want to get fancy, in a skillet in the oven.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/6919/bannock/
I've done a gluten free version with that cornmeal stuff used for making tortillas
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/6919/bannock/
I've done a gluten free version with that cornmeal stuff used for making tortillas
Nice! This looks a bit closer to a biscuit, but would still be plenty tasty.
For simple breads, "Johnny Cake" or "Hoe Cake" is also a great choice. Those sound pretty close to your gluten free version, but they were more commonly made from the coarser yellow meal than the white tortilla corn flour.
Folks need to be dialing up their grandparents and asking what they did in the "dark ages", when making do during war rationing and depression taught them how to get by without today's markets full of goods!
There's LOTS of options, if we just look for them.
Speaking of - - here's one if you can't find those sanitizing wipes or a bottle of bleach:
- Pool cleaner/chems are dry chlorine. Approx a Tablespoon in a gallon bucket = effective bleach
- If you have paper towels, stick the roll in a coffee can or bucket with the center tube still in place. Add your bleach solution and let it sit for a time. Eventually, that center tube will get soggy and collapse and you can draw it out. Now, grab one of the paper towels in the center and pull, and you can unwind the roll from the middle, just like those sanitary wipes!
Enjoy!
For simple breads, "Johnny Cake" or "Hoe Cake" is also a great choice. Those sound pretty close to your gluten free version, but they were more commonly made from the coarser yellow meal than the white tortilla corn flour.
Folks need to be dialing up their grandparents and asking what they did in the "dark ages", when making do during war rationing and depression taught them how to get by without today's markets full of goods!
There's LOTS of options, if we just look for them.
Speaking of - - here's one if you can't find those sanitizing wipes or a bottle of bleach:
- Pool cleaner/chems are dry chlorine. Approx a Tablespoon in a gallon bucket = effective bleach
- If you have paper towels, stick the roll in a coffee can or bucket with the center tube still in place. Add your bleach solution and let it sit for a time. Eventually, that center tube will get soggy and collapse and you can draw it out. Now, grab one of the paper towels in the center and pull, and you can unwind the roll from the middle, just like those sanitary wipes!
Enjoy!
Flour, yes...so far...
Some places are out of milk
Eggs are picked over but still there...
really you don't need milk or eggs to make tortillas and hard tack(It's called that for a good reason... )...and you can use some beer foams to make yeast for the bread/s (Not sure about modern beers 'cause of pasteurization but home brew...)
Some places are out of milk
Eggs are picked over but still there...
really you don't need milk or eggs to make tortillas and hard tack(It's called that for a good reason... )...and you can use some beer foams to make yeast for the bread/s (Not sure about modern beers 'cause of pasteurization but home brew...)
It's as if people in this country don't know what a bidet is. You can get portable ones that are basically squirt bottles and you can get fixtures that retrofit onto toilets. My family has both.
Still, I can understand why people are panic buying. This country has an absolutely horrible for-profit healthcare system that isn't built to respond to stuff like this and most people in this country can't even afford it in the first place. On top of that, the Trump Administration really botched the response to this pandemic by not testing enough people fast enough, so we have no idea how many people are infected and how far it's already spread. Now we have no choice but to ban public gatherings, force businesses to close, and ultimately force people to shelter in place for an indefinite period of time in a last ditch effort to try to stem the spread of the virus. Unfortunately, it's probably already too late, and this country may end up having casualties in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, and after that the economic fallout from this pandemic, all these deaths and bringing our infrastructure to a grinding halt to try to prevent them will ultimately lead us into the Great Depression 2.0. That's what's really scaring me right now.
Still, I can understand why people are panic buying. This country has an absolutely horrible for-profit healthcare system that isn't built to respond to stuff like this and most people in this country can't even afford it in the first place. On top of that, the Trump Administration really botched the response to this pandemic by not testing enough people fast enough, so we have no idea how many people are infected and how far it's already spread. Now we have no choice but to ban public gatherings, force businesses to close, and ultimately force people to shelter in place for an indefinite period of time in a last ditch effort to try to stem the spread of the virus. Unfortunately, it's probably already too late, and this country may end up having casualties in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, and after that the economic fallout from this pandemic, all these deaths and bringing our infrastructure to a grinding halt to try to prevent them will ultimately lead us into the Great Depression 2.0. That's what's really scaring me right now.
I really hope that I'm wrong about this, and that it's just my paranoia playing up again, but then I look at what's happening in Italy and with each passing day it increasingly looks like we're following the same pattern as them, just one or two weeks behind. However, it'll be so much worse here than in Italy, because our healthcare system freaking sucks compared literally every other developed nation on the planet.
We have one store chain around here where all the walmart folks go, then there's another place, its a chain but is not a favorite, they get a truck delivery every two days of stuff, so there's some TP, paper towels etc, bread seems to be an issue so their bakery is on overtime making well look at that, bread.
I'm a sunny day DRprepper anyway so when we'd get down to half a dozen rolls I'd by a double 24 pack anyway, Dry goods are pretty well stocked as are canned goods and chef boyardee and spam for special occations! Ammo locker is sexyfull too, though still reloading 50! My arm gets tired.
its probably a long drive out of your way but maybe see about shopping in non assholeville? friend in the city saw someone load up a carriage and just walk out with it sans paying.
I'm a sunny day DRprepper anyway so when we'd get down to half a dozen rolls I'd by a double 24 pack anyway, Dry goods are pretty well stocked as are canned goods and chef boyardee and spam for special occations! Ammo locker is sexyfull too, though still reloading 50! My arm gets tired.
its probably a long drive out of your way but maybe see about shopping in non assholeville? friend in the city saw someone load up a carriage and just walk out with it sans paying.
Here in Tucson, the Walmart near me is absolutely out of paper products. They got in a shipment of toilet paper last Saturday, and there was a line for it clear through the entire grocery section. I've seen shorter lines at Disneyland for Space Mountain. One package per customer, and they had some of their physically largest employees handing it out. I was told that they had armed sheriff's deputies at Costco when they got some TP in.
You can't find soup worth a darn. Walmart had two containers of "Butternut Squash" in the soup aisle (which I guess goes to show how popular that flavor is). Pasta, virtually gone. I had to go to another store to get one of the last three packages of hot dog buns. Very little packaged meat. I was stunned to find canadian bacon. Cereal is pretty picked over, too.
Plenty of Easter candy if you want to try to subsist on chocolate eggs and jelly beans. I find it hilarious that the Vegan section was still well stocked.
You can't find soup worth a darn. Walmart had two containers of "Butternut Squash" in the soup aisle (which I guess goes to show how popular that flavor is). Pasta, virtually gone. I had to go to another store to get one of the last three packages of hot dog buns. Very little packaged meat. I was stunned to find canadian bacon. Cereal is pretty picked over, too.
Plenty of Easter candy if you want to try to subsist on chocolate eggs and jelly beans. I find it hilarious that the Vegan section was still well stocked.
Aren't businesses in the US doing the "only normal quantities" policy? Thats what they did over here.
If you try to check out with more than say...2 packs of flour, or 1 pack of toilet paper, many stores will not let you. The ones with security even have one guard standing by the cash registers. Haven't heard anyone TRYING to pull shit yet but...they are probably just being careful.
That said, stores around here are recuperating by now. I mean, most things were still in stock anyway, but emptied products (flour, pasta, rice, TP) have been recovered by now.
If you try to check out with more than say...2 packs of flour, or 1 pack of toilet paper, many stores will not let you. The ones with security even have one guard standing by the cash registers. Haven't heard anyone TRYING to pull shit yet but...they are probably just being careful.
That said, stores around here are recuperating by now. I mean, most things were still in stock anyway, but emptied products (flour, pasta, rice, TP) have been recovered by now.
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