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I'm using an 80 WAT soldering iron to heat up and destroy glue that is possibly holding these guys in before carefully removing them with a modified end nipper. When I finally got them out I found that these frets had no teeth, but instead had chisel nicks across the bottom of the tang. This means they must be stock because toothless frets haven't been made in decades.
This guitar came to me in unplayable condition. The neck had a forward bow that dipped down about 3/16ths of an inch. For reference, a good amount of forward bow (relief) is about .009, that's 9 thousandths of an inch. What makes this worse is that while this guitar has a "steel re-enforced neck" it doesn't have an adjustable truss rod to help correct the issue. All the fingerboard leveling will have to be done with sanding.
The neck will need to to be re-trued by careful sanding and then re-fretted with some modern frets. This will likely involve re-cutting the fret slots. Hopefully I will be able to do this without loosing any of the inlay dots.
This work is being done for
ithabise who payed for this quite expensive repair job by doing some fursuit work for me at which he is quite good. Normally I charge $300.
The photo was taken by
32bites who I'm sure would have done a much better photo had I given him a real camera to work with.
This guitar came to me in unplayable condition. The neck had a forward bow that dipped down about 3/16ths of an inch. For reference, a good amount of forward bow (relief) is about .009, that's 9 thousandths of an inch. What makes this worse is that while this guitar has a "steel re-enforced neck" it doesn't have an adjustable truss rod to help correct the issue. All the fingerboard leveling will have to be done with sanding.
The neck will need to to be re-trued by careful sanding and then re-fretted with some modern frets. This will likely involve re-cutting the fret slots. Hopefully I will be able to do this without loosing any of the inlay dots.
This work is being done for
ithabise who payed for this quite expensive repair job by doing some fursuit work for me at which he is quite good. Normally I charge $300.The photo was taken by
32bites who I'm sure would have done a much better photo had I given him a real camera to work with.
Category All / Tutorials
Species Vulpine (Other)
Size 1280 x 960px
File Size 609.7 kB
hte neck is a bolt on so I am removing it to do the fretwork. A reset would only be effective if the angle or "pitch" of the neck were wrong. It wouldn't do much to the forward bow. In a new fender replacing the neck would be a cheaper solution, however I will never be able to find a a replacement neck for a 196-blah Decca. I could have thrown some other neck on there but then you need to find one that's exactly the same scale length and will fit the neck pocket, which can be pretty hard to do unless you have it on hand to try it out.
"Truing" is making the fretboard flat:)
The bar on the headstock is actually there to create "dangle angle" on the stings. these are sometimes called "string trees." On most fender style headstocks the strings don't get a steep enough break over the nut to give them a good amount of bite, which leads to them popping out of their slots while playing and a loss of tone. There shouldn't be an "extra nut" on a guitar, though some including this one have whats called a "zero fret" witch is a fret that that serves as a contact point for the end of the scale. The nut on guitars that have this serves only as a guide to set the distance between the strings. Its a shame that zero frets became associated with cheap guitars, they are actually quite nice to have.
"Truing" is making the fretboard flat:)
The bar on the headstock is actually there to create "dangle angle" on the stings. these are sometimes called "string trees." On most fender style headstocks the strings don't get a steep enough break over the nut to give them a good amount of bite, which leads to them popping out of their slots while playing and a loss of tone. There shouldn't be an "extra nut" on a guitar, though some including this one have whats called a "zero fret" witch is a fret that that serves as a contact point for the end of the scale. The nut on guitars that have this serves only as a guide to set the distance between the strings. Its a shame that zero frets became associated with cheap guitars, they are actually quite nice to have.
no problem :) this is really the only topic on which I think i have geek super powers. Plus, I am uploading this as a kind of tutorial. I plan to put up a few more pics of the process as I get more into it. I just ordered the fret's and other parts so that should be relatively soon:)
if you are writing tutorials, i could really use one on measuring, cutting, and installing frets. pretty much a tutorial on fret installation on a new instrument(not refurb type work but construction). the frets are the hardest part for me. some of my earlier attempts at instrument building remain fretless (which i still cant play very well...)
The one thing I like about lutes, viols and baroque guitars is that one can fix their own frets! They're literally tied on, though I doubt that a neck problem would be so easily fixable!
Good luck with that, I'm certain that you'll be able to make this guitar finger worthy again!
Good luck with that, I'm certain that you'll be able to make this guitar finger worthy again!
Sitars are the same way. I have to wonder how they managed to set them up with no fret buzz. as a modern luthier the idea of frets that are freely removable would make me cringe, Especially considering the stuff that players end up messing with that they really shouldn't.
Example:
me: "wow, your truss rod is completely stripped!"
costomer: "you mean that's not were i adjust the tone of my pickups?"
or
me: "wow, your intonation is so bad your playing almost a quarter step out of tune up the neck!"
tone deaf customer: "did i do that when i was fiddling with those bridge thingies? I was trying to raise the string height after this article
I read in guitar world about blues players"
me: "ahh that would explain why your strings are a half inch from your 12th fret"
The list goes on.
Even in this guitar, some guy down the line decided to do a leval crown and polish on these frets. He gown some almost down to the fretboard and didn't crown them (reround the tips witch makes the guitar play in tune) and he left what looks like 80 grit sanding scratches all over the surface of them:(
At least the slots seem to be pretty well intact as well as the board, so the new frets it gets will look great:)
Example:
me: "wow, your truss rod is completely stripped!"
costomer: "you mean that's not were i adjust the tone of my pickups?"
or
me: "wow, your intonation is so bad your playing almost a quarter step out of tune up the neck!"
tone deaf customer: "did i do that when i was fiddling with those bridge thingies? I was trying to raise the string height after this article
I read in guitar world about blues players"
me: "ahh that would explain why your strings are a half inch from your 12th fret"
The list goes on.
Even in this guitar, some guy down the line decided to do a leval crown and polish on these frets. He gown some almost down to the fretboard and didn't crown them (reround the tips witch makes the guitar play in tune) and he left what looks like 80 grit sanding scratches all over the surface of them:(
At least the slots seem to be pretty well intact as well as the board, so the new frets it gets will look great:)
Well, that's some good news. Though I'm sure that we know what we're doing when playing the lute! (I myself am learning how to play, problem is I need nails to play guitar but you can't play the lute properly with nails)
Fret buzz, easy, the frets are made from organic material, so they don't make any sound (at least not loudly enough to be heard).
What people will do with their instruments (god knows what I did to my piano! I'm thinking of putting a harmonics pedal in one one day... so that I have even more sounds to work with!)
Fret buzz, easy, the frets are made from organic material, so they don't make any sound (at least not loudly enough to be heard).
What people will do with their instruments (god knows what I did to my piano! I'm thinking of putting a harmonics pedal in one one day... so that I have even more sounds to work with!)
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