Another case of concept design brainstorming. This is not on any real world aircraft or real proposed design. It does incorporate some ideas that were being proposed by various aviation companies in the early post-war era.
In appearance the aircraft came out looking like the love child of De Havilland Vampire and Horton 229 flying wing. It struck me as one of those fighter aircraft that went into production before supersonic speed were a requirement. It would be quickly eclipsed as front line interceptor by later more advanced designs, but might have a long and useful career as a ground attack/ fighter bomber role.
Speaking of Horton flying wings the National Geographic channel ran a program on the Horton brothers flying wing recently. I think they brought up some interesting points in the program, but their premise had some problems that they never addressed.
In appearance the aircraft came out looking like the love child of De Havilland Vampire and Horton 229 flying wing. It struck me as one of those fighter aircraft that went into production before supersonic speed were a requirement. It would be quickly eclipsed as front line interceptor by later more advanced designs, but might have a long and useful career as a ground attack/ fighter bomber role.
Speaking of Horton flying wings the National Geographic channel ran a program on the Horton brothers flying wing recently. I think they brought up some interesting points in the program, but their premise had some problems that they never addressed.
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With powerful enough jet engines, you can make ANYTHING fly.
"There isn't enough [engine] power in all Christendom to make that airplane [the F-111B for the US Navy] what we want!" - Vice Admiral Thomas F. Connolly, then Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Air Warfare, in response to a question as to whether a more powerful engine would cure the aircraft's woes.
"There isn't enough [engine] power in all Christendom to make that airplane [the F-111B for the US Navy] what we want!" - Vice Admiral Thomas F. Connolly, then Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Air Warfare, in response to a question as to whether a more powerful engine would cure the aircraft's woes.
I seem to remember the biggest problems with flying wings in general was the "busy" cockpit. With most aircraft, if you let go of the controls, the airplane will fly itself for the most part. For instance, flying a Cessna 172 and you start "rollercoastering" the best thing to do is center the controls and the stable nature of the plane's design will correct the problem. On the flying wing you don't have that luxury, you are constantly having to fly the airplane. That's why the B2 bomber is computer controlled, the pilots would be overwhelmed just keeping it in the air if it were manual.
On the other hand, with vectored thrust on that bad boy no conventional fighter, like a Mig 15 or F-86 for instance, could out turn you and in dogfighting that is the determining factor in most encounters. Typically though, the age of the air to air missile ended that scenario in the minds of most strategists before the start of the Vietnam War and why F4 Phantoms were being swatted out of the sky by inferior Migs because they had no guns and just a few missiles.
On the other hand, with vectored thrust on that bad boy no conventional fighter, like a Mig 15 or F-86 for instance, could out turn you and in dogfighting that is the determining factor in most encounters. Typically though, the age of the air to air missile ended that scenario in the minds of most strategists before the start of the Vietnam War and why F4 Phantoms were being swatted out of the sky by inferior Migs because they had no guns and just a few missiles.
True, until relatively recently the fact was that after the first turn, all dogfights were subsonic.
And, of course, how do you down a Phantom equipped with six Sidewinders? Send up seven MiGs. Or one SA-2 and watch the pilot run out of fuel as he outran it.
As for 172s... my instructor once said that if you ever became completely disoriented and you had a few thousand feet of altitude, reduce throttle a little and take your hands off the controls for about 15 seconds. The 172 would right itself and settle into a slow up-and-down gyration with a near-standard-rate turn to the right. I tried it once from a climbing 45-degree-banked left at 8500 feet, and by 6500 it was stabilized.
It may be a spam can, but it's a damned safe spam can.
And, of course, how do you down a Phantom equipped with six Sidewinders? Send up seven MiGs. Or one SA-2 and watch the pilot run out of fuel as he outran it.
As for 172s... my instructor once said that if you ever became completely disoriented and you had a few thousand feet of altitude, reduce throttle a little and take your hands off the controls for about 15 seconds. The 172 would right itself and settle into a slow up-and-down gyration with a near-standard-rate turn to the right. I tried it once from a climbing 45-degree-banked left at 8500 feet, and by 6500 it was stabilized.
It may be a spam can, but it's a damned safe spam can.
Looks more like it traces its ancestry back to the Blohm und Voss BV P.212.03 design (http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp212.html). But Germany had a lot of tailless designs sitting on drawing boards at the end of the war, and the fundamental design constraints are going to give you designs with a lot of commonality of appearance. The state of jet engine design in the immediate postwar period would make it a pig with that load of external stores, but that's just due to the low-thrust engines of the period; the design looks sound, and with a suitable engine would probably be a solid workhorse of a plane.
Looks like a BV P.212 (single-engined) or P.215 (twin-engined) variation crossed with a bit of Junkers EF 128 and modernized. Still, it's an attractive enough aircraft and looks like it'd be an interesting addition to an air force. it looks like it'd be fun to model and not too difficult a subject.
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