Patreon question - thy wishes?
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Last time I got wishes about mythological creatures included - did several, adding popular feet-related themes as well - and no result or reaction was achieved, alas.
Thus, again - what might tempt you?
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/raysh
Description for Patreon services: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33874179/
Last time I got wishes about mythological creatures included - did several, adding popular feet-related themes as well - and no result or reaction was achieved, alas.
Thus, again - what might tempt you?
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/raysh
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People take really well to comics and consistency, its rare for an artist to gain support for off set kinks or just sketches. I only say that because I had the same issue and then I switch to comics and it started picking up again
most the successful patreon artists either run off comics or fan art like pokemon, games or shows. theres very few I've seen that have a super successful patreon back up with sketches unless its a reward for a pledge
most the successful patreon artists either run off comics or fan art like pokemon, games or shows. theres very few I've seen that have a super successful patreon back up with sketches unless its a reward for a pledge
I mean actual rewards, not suggestions for later sketches. Unless I didnt see it, theres no option for that, but again the whole comic thing. It's a lot more appealing to most people when you're able to support a comic or a show. Kind of like if a new manga or episode came out, there would be more people eager to see it earlier than be willing to wait til next month KNOWING it's something they would be interested in, apposed to sketches here and there they might not even look at because its a singular image not a drawn out plot
not saying you have to, thats just my experience in speaking with my own following and clientele, what works for some might not work for others
not saying you have to, thats just my experience in speaking with my own following and clientele, what works for some might not work for others
I do think the tiers may have to get reorganized again to a degree. Granted, I haven't run a Patreon ever, so don't take my input as a proven fact, either. I just know based off on what I've seen other people doing for quite some time. voregence also makes a very good point about doing a comic, especially since it'd give a perfect opportunity for you to plot out a story based on your lore to follow: either as a series of shorter stories, or a larger arcing plot line.
My opinion on what to do with the tiers would be:
$3 - Keep the same.
$5 - Also the same, but add on the comic pages, posted as they're complete. Most artists hold them for a specific amount of time as Patreon-only (I've seen anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for comics) before posting them publicly. That way you don't alienate anyone that just flat-out can't afford it for whatever reason, while also showing something enticing that other people may want to get in on if they're able.
$7 - As it is now, but also add the "in progress" work for the comic pages once the main page goes up, so people can see your general process and flow, and can inquire about it.
Then there's the hard part, with promised art things. Thankfully with doing the Patreon pre-pay in general, it'll help stop people from grabbing and running, but there's also the point that you don't want to completely overload yourself with work to the point you can't get anything else done, either. Putting a limit on the number of slots is basically a must, which thankfully Patreon has settings to enable something like that. Based off what's already there in the $10 tier along with your listing on your Commission Info page, I'd do something like:
$10 - Remove entirely. Then add:
$12 - (Limit of somewhere between 5-10 slots) Includes the previous tiers, and guarantees 1 Rough Sketch a month, as long as the pledge stays good. Obviously as your normal rough sketch price ranges from 15-20, people have to at least keep the sketch within reason, but they do get a slight discount on it for continued, monthly support.
$24 - (Limit of 5) Includes all but the previous tier, and guarantees 1 Clean Sketch a month, for the people that want to spring for something a little fancier. I tightened the money range on it since the 25-35 is a much larger spread, and it also allows for slightly more involved pieces without hurting your time as much (or at least that's the thinking behind it).
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In short, the two higher tiers basically become like a long-term reward for coming on board and staying there, while the others focus mainly on at (your) will sketches, and continued comic progress. I do know the one other artist I'm currently supporting on Patreon doesn't open the requests from his final two tiers until around the mid point of the month, mainly to reduce the risk of someone pulling out ahead of time, but it all comes down to what you feel comfortable doing/handling month to month.
But, that's what I came up with, so use it or not as you see fit; heh.
My opinion on what to do with the tiers would be:
$3 - Keep the same.
$5 - Also the same, but add on the comic pages, posted as they're complete. Most artists hold them for a specific amount of time as Patreon-only (I've seen anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for comics) before posting them publicly. That way you don't alienate anyone that just flat-out can't afford it for whatever reason, while also showing something enticing that other people may want to get in on if they're able.
$7 - As it is now, but also add the "in progress" work for the comic pages once the main page goes up, so people can see your general process and flow, and can inquire about it.
Then there's the hard part, with promised art things. Thankfully with doing the Patreon pre-pay in general, it'll help stop people from grabbing and running, but there's also the point that you don't want to completely overload yourself with work to the point you can't get anything else done, either. Putting a limit on the number of slots is basically a must, which thankfully Patreon has settings to enable something like that. Based off what's already there in the $10 tier along with your listing on your Commission Info page, I'd do something like:
$10 - Remove entirely. Then add:
$12 - (Limit of somewhere between 5-10 slots) Includes the previous tiers, and guarantees 1 Rough Sketch a month, as long as the pledge stays good. Obviously as your normal rough sketch price ranges from 15-20, people have to at least keep the sketch within reason, but they do get a slight discount on it for continued, monthly support.
$24 - (Limit of 5) Includes all but the previous tier, and guarantees 1 Clean Sketch a month, for the people that want to spring for something a little fancier. I tightened the money range on it since the 25-35 is a much larger spread, and it also allows for slightly more involved pieces without hurting your time as much (or at least that's the thinking behind it).
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In short, the two higher tiers basically become like a long-term reward for coming on board and staying there, while the others focus mainly on at (your) will sketches, and continued comic progress. I do know the one other artist I'm currently supporting on Patreon doesn't open the requests from his final two tiers until around the mid point of the month, mainly to reduce the risk of someone pulling out ahead of time, but it all comes down to what you feel comfortable doing/handling month to month.
But, that's what I came up with, so use it or not as you see fit; heh.
Those are great, but:
- I can not do comics alone. Commissions, 3-day-steady sketches, freebies, own lore, side works. Add a comics for me alone - and I need to evolve to semi-god entity to be able to do those all physically.
- I already include in-progress and everything else in addition to 3-days-sketches for said 5$.
- I can not do comics alone. Commissions, 3-day-steady sketches, freebies, own lore, side works. Add a comics for me alone - and I need to evolve to semi-god entity to be able to do those all physically.
- I already include in-progress and everything else in addition to 3-days-sketches for said 5$.
I figured there'd be some hiccups with the idea. The in-progress part I had mentioned in the $7 one was only for the comic though, since that'd of course involve more work on it.
Sorting out the Heavensilver tier though would still likely be a good idea though, since I already see 9 of us in the Discord. I haven't asked for any myself yet cause I wanted to wait a few months to make sure everything was a good fit first, but if people really start to jump on it, that could get overbearing in a hurry.
Sorting out the Heavensilver tier though would still likely be a good idea though, since I already see 9 of us in the Discord. I haven't asked for any myself yet cause I wanted to wait a few months to make sure everything was a good fit first, but if people really start to jump on it, that could get overbearing in a hurry.
People are leaving instead. Even though I follow their wishes and requests as much as I can so far. Even after I started doing regular sketches twice detailed and even semi-coloured and shaded a little - yet should've done it after reaching the current Patreon goal only.
As if doing better things results in worse result, somehow. Can not figure out how it works yet.
As if doing better things results in worse result, somehow. Can not figure out how it works yet.
Since you've asked about Patreon feedback multiple times, I'll say something. Although what I want to say might not go over well.
I can only speak for myself, but I only have so much money and generally speaking, there are things I'd prefer to spend it on than Patreon.
This is why, even though I like your work, I can't think of any way you could get me to support your Patreon. Even if I did support your Patreon, it would be sporadic.
I can only speak for myself, but I only have so much money and generally speaking, there are things I'd prefer to spend it on than Patreon.
This is why, even though I like your work, I can't think of any way you could get me to support your Patreon. Even if I did support your Patreon, it would be sporadic.
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