Formula Writing for Television - a Thursday Prompt
Open at your own risk - I couldn't help myself.
V.
PS As an 'aside', believe it or not, the Hallmark channel has a whole slue of sleuth mystery shows that are really good. Sure, somebody has to be a victim (Coronal Mustard in the hallway with a candlestick), but for what we knew as a B grade woman's television show production company, they've grown. The acting is top notch and the plots, though they are mysteries, are actual plots that keep you interested.
V.
PS As an 'aside', believe it or not, the Hallmark channel has a whole slue of sleuth mystery shows that are really good. Sure, somebody has to be a victim (Coronal Mustard in the hallway with a candlestick), but for what we knew as a B grade woman's television show production company, they've grown. The acting is top notch and the plots, though they are mysteries, are actual plots that keep you interested.
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oh yes.... and further than that, the relationship between the partners which leaves you thinking they are a 'thing' just for political correctness's sake... not to mention the everyone from everything tokens...
gotta run, there's a loud pounding on my front door, and this time it ain't the pun police...
thanks for the read Walt...
V.
gotta run, there's a loud pounding on my front door, and this time it ain't the pun police...
thanks for the read Walt...
V.
That was a fun read, and yes I think you're about right on the plot layout and skullduggery to be found in the shows. That's one of the reasons why I enjoy the Babylon 5 over Star Trek next Generation. Babylon 5 was an ongoing story where Star Trek next Generation was it given plot now you could count on it which I thought was kind of boring after a while.
yeah I don't yeah I don't have a television anymore and if I'm seeing sweetie in Seattle generally will be watching some documentary or something.
What shows you find on the mainstream media is just garbage as far as I'm concerned add not worth my time to watch. I find more stuff on YouTube that is more enlightening then on the boob tube
What shows you find on the mainstream media is just garbage as far as I'm concerned add not worth my time to watch. I find more stuff on YouTube that is more enlightening then on the boob tube
cat videos, cab rides on trains in places i've never been and will probably never be, and home made animations that don't have to tell any bid deal emotional story but just flying the 'camera' around through imaginatively shaped spaces.
and 'back yard and kitchen table engineering' all of which are the whole point of the internet, which corporate big deal entertainment are not.
i don't know about story though, most of my images just start with putting shapes i like together with each other in or to make a landscape, interior scape, what have you, with the hope of encouraging others to both do so and allow each other to live in a kind of world were we allow each other to do so.
when i sleep in my dreams that's the kind of world they take place in.
i want to be, and people allowed to be, to live in spaces that look like play structures and garden sheds, with minimal form factor infrastructure.
no creating vast empty spaces first to build things. (larger construted spaces to be mazelike agglomerations)
i haven't watched tv in more then a decade now. by that i mean not having owned on nor watched it regularly.
what i do regularly is get on the internet and spend many rewarding hours on the computer making imaginary solid things.
people give up a lot of their lives just to have things they don't pay that much attention to the design of,
and i don't really entirely understand that. i mean i know the words that claim to explain this, but that's still not really understanding it.
i admit i feel good when i have money, but that's because of the creative potential of what i might do with it.
but if i could live in a world without the whole idea of that, a world of peaceful anarchy where no one wanted anyone else to be afraid of them,
i don't think i'd have much hesitation.
if anything, what i'd want to conserve from my previous lives and my dream life, is just such a world.
one if the characters in sitcoms were real people, i doubt very much that vary many of them, could even imagine.
b5 yes, star trek maybe, star wars just pretty eye candy, zootopia, the real post apocalypse, though less urban, less populated, more improvising from scrap from the ruins we're leaving behind. but just spaces, spaces without story, is why i make pictures instead of trying to write. though if the plots of my dreams could somehow be automatically transcribed, some of them might make stories. but more often i wander around in spaces that interest me, and try not to miss the last bus or train home, and wake up wondering why i worried about that so much in the dream.
and 'back yard and kitchen table engineering' all of which are the whole point of the internet, which corporate big deal entertainment are not.
i don't know about story though, most of my images just start with putting shapes i like together with each other in or to make a landscape, interior scape, what have you, with the hope of encouraging others to both do so and allow each other to live in a kind of world were we allow each other to do so.
when i sleep in my dreams that's the kind of world they take place in.
i want to be, and people allowed to be, to live in spaces that look like play structures and garden sheds, with minimal form factor infrastructure.
no creating vast empty spaces first to build things. (larger construted spaces to be mazelike agglomerations)
i haven't watched tv in more then a decade now. by that i mean not having owned on nor watched it regularly.
what i do regularly is get on the internet and spend many rewarding hours on the computer making imaginary solid things.
people give up a lot of their lives just to have things they don't pay that much attention to the design of,
and i don't really entirely understand that. i mean i know the words that claim to explain this, but that's still not really understanding it.
i admit i feel good when i have money, but that's because of the creative potential of what i might do with it.
but if i could live in a world without the whole idea of that, a world of peaceful anarchy where no one wanted anyone else to be afraid of them,
i don't think i'd have much hesitation.
if anything, what i'd want to conserve from my previous lives and my dream life, is just such a world.
one if the characters in sitcoms were real people, i doubt very much that vary many of them, could even imagine.
b5 yes, star trek maybe, star wars just pretty eye candy, zootopia, the real post apocalypse, though less urban, less populated, more improvising from scrap from the ruins we're leaving behind. but just spaces, spaces without story, is why i make pictures instead of trying to write. though if the plots of my dreams could somehow be automatically transcribed, some of them might make stories. but more often i wander around in spaces that interest me, and try not to miss the last bus or train home, and wake up wondering why i worried about that so much in the dream.
I was going to guess 'big bang' until you all but wrote one of those ncis shows ...
(both types my mom loves ...)
I sometimes 'try' to watch TV, but the ad comes on and I hit mute and look at something else (or pound out a line or three on a in-work story.) I can't count the number of times that I missed most if not all of the show because the ads ensured that I never got into the show.
Then there are the shows so bad they kill themselves so badly they don't even need to run any ads (Netflex has plenty of them, though so does everybody else it seems) with bad plots, bad acting, physics a five-year-old will point out don't work that way ...
By looking around right now I can see five screens. Two 23" LGs that my computers are hooked to, an old 19" CRT that's old enough to vote (sometimes hooked to an old W2000 box also old enough to vote), and two large TV screens (both unplugged at the moment, last used as computer monitors but while larger they have poorer resolution than the LGs.)
TV? No thanks, I mounted a car stereo into the W2000 case and Meat Loaf if playing me 'Blind as a bat'!
(both types my mom loves ...)
I sometimes 'try' to watch TV, but the ad comes on and I hit mute and look at something else (or pound out a line or three on a in-work story.) I can't count the number of times that I missed most if not all of the show because the ads ensured that I never got into the show.
Then there are the shows so bad they kill themselves so badly they don't even need to run any ads (Netflex has plenty of them, though so does everybody else it seems) with bad plots, bad acting, physics a five-year-old will point out don't work that way ...
By looking around right now I can see five screens. Two 23" LGs that my computers are hooked to, an old 19" CRT that's old enough to vote (sometimes hooked to an old W2000 box also old enough to vote), and two large TV screens (both unplugged at the moment, last used as computer monitors but while larger they have poorer resolution than the LGs.)
TV? No thanks, I mounted a car stereo into the W2000 case and Meat Loaf if playing me 'Blind as a bat'!
after i posted the other and haven't read you your story through yet, something else ocured to me.
tv scripts and flying,
you know, something like sanford and son only instead of a scrap yard,
airframe mechanics and part time substitute pilots, for a small time air cargo contract company,
most of the stories taking place in the hanger, with a few in the cockpit or on the tarmak,
but mostly in the hanger, only the two indoor and one outdoor sets required.
maybe five regular characters, and a couple of revolving guest spots.
tv scripts and flying,
you know, something like sanford and son only instead of a scrap yard,
airframe mechanics and part time substitute pilots, for a small time air cargo contract company,
most of the stories taking place in the hanger, with a few in the cockpit or on the tarmak,
but mostly in the hanger, only the two indoor and one outdoor sets required.
maybe five regular characters, and a couple of revolving guest spots.
Sounds like she was watching one of those NCSI Law and Order shows, could never get into those *chuckles*
I think its quite strange how, in America particularly, we're completely fine with showing characters being shot, beheaded, gutted, disemboweled etc. But gods forbid one shows even a centimeter of a man's staff or a female's teat. I know its the other way around in some other countries though.
On the topic of adverts, ever run into a moment where its evident two advertisers may be fighting over a time slot? Where one advert will just cut to another, mid-scene. Its kind of hilarious...
I think its quite strange how, in America particularly, we're completely fine with showing characters being shot, beheaded, gutted, disemboweled etc. But gods forbid one shows even a centimeter of a man's staff or a female's teat. I know its the other way around in some other countries though.
On the topic of adverts, ever run into a moment where its evident two advertisers may be fighting over a time slot? Where one advert will just cut to another, mid-scene. Its kind of hilarious...
To add in a bit of variety, don't they usually have moronic office assistants or other peripheral employees who, during their barely tolerable screw up of the day, happen to say something that makes a main character view important evidence in just the right way?
"Hyuk hyuk I thought the plants would look better upside down for a change."
"Upside...down!? Of COURSE! woW was really Mom all along! Let's roll out."
"Hyuk hyuk I thought the plants would look better upside down for a change."
"Upside...down!? Of COURSE! woW was really Mom all along! Let's roll out."
I just got around to reading this....we're in Wurzburg, Germany on a long riverboat waiting for the cocktail hour and watching it rain off and on like it's been doing since we landed in Amsterdam on Sunday. It's supposed to clear up tomorrow. I hope....
Back on topic - We don't watch TV either (we cut the cord 5 years ago) except for the Boss watching the news. I sit in the other room when she does since the just the sound of it drives my BP up, not to mention the incessant commercials. Remember when the evening news was just 15 minutes? It's still only 15 minutes, but with 15 minutes of commercials. And if I hear the words Breaking News!!! one more time..................................
Back on topic - We don't watch TV either (we cut the cord 5 years ago) except for the Boss watching the news. I sit in the other room when she does since the just the sound of it drives my BP up, not to mention the incessant commercials. Remember when the evening news was just 15 minutes? It's still only 15 minutes, but with 15 minutes of commercials. And if I hear the words Breaking News!!! one more time..................................
Ah yes, the almighty formula for TV sitcoms, crime shows, made-for-TV-movies, etc.
I kind of feel like I've watched every formula unfold over the years, and even hybrid formulas used when the old tropes no longer get the coveted ratings. I mean, back when TV was THE main form of entertainment for the majority of us (before the Internet came along), and cable TV was still for the well-to-dos...
It actually kind of made sense, and was at least a familiar space to always have the Main Good Guy (TM) face off against the Bad Guy of the Week (TM). And those formulas meant we knew what to expect out of a show. But holy cow, if they ever broke from formula and actually SURPRISED the viewers with something unexpected (and sometimes genuinely original)!
Even those fleeting moments have been parodied by the endless recycling of intellectual properties.
I don't really "make" time for TV these days...or what we commonly refer to as "TV", which is just on demand programs. I occasionally watch a show here and there on Netflix or Prime. And if there is a really standout show I will make an exception (like "The Expanse"! Wow, now that show is quite amazing)
Thanks for the journey, V.
I kind of feel like I've watched every formula unfold over the years, and even hybrid formulas used when the old tropes no longer get the coveted ratings. I mean, back when TV was THE main form of entertainment for the majority of us (before the Internet came along), and cable TV was still for the well-to-dos...
It actually kind of made sense, and was at least a familiar space to always have the Main Good Guy (TM) face off against the Bad Guy of the Week (TM). And those formulas meant we knew what to expect out of a show. But holy cow, if they ever broke from formula and actually SURPRISED the viewers with something unexpected (and sometimes genuinely original)!
Even those fleeting moments have been parodied by the endless recycling of intellectual properties.
I don't really "make" time for TV these days...or what we commonly refer to as "TV", which is just on demand programs. I occasionally watch a show here and there on Netflix or Prime. And if there is a really standout show I will make an exception (like "The Expanse"! Wow, now that show is quite amazing)
Thanks for the journey, V.
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