I have to say. That's pretty cool! I like the glowing effects on his fur.

COPY PASTA!

Agreed.

You should post a link to your ref pic.

Very good work, non the less!

hahah, I see what you are doing here. any reason for this theme of yours?

i want to learn more about how to make cartoon-styled images so i take some pictures that impress me and see if i can remake them.
the question is if i should post them ...

I lol'd at the emerging theme, and I hope we can see more.

There are two questions you have to answer: is it permitted under copyright law (as modified by any license you may have received), and is it ethical?

The copyright question is answered by deciding if the work is derivative, and whether it competes commercially with it. Arguably a remake for practice using your own characters with a knowing nod to Karabiner's Renamon-clutching-her-arse pic should be fine to distribute on a limited basis provided it isn't a trace (fans hate that) and you don't intend to sell your version (Karabiner will hate that).

The ethical question is a bit looser, but you should certainly give credit for the pose to avoid accusations of plagiarism :)

I think i made that pose in real life once. WAS IT ETHICAL?!?! MAYBE NOT D:

Actually, you can't really copyright a pose. It's like, impossibuhls. You can copyright the image as a whole, the character, and the general composition, but not the physical pose the character is making. If you could copyright a pose, i know a lot of pin up artists who would be in deep trouble.

The only copyright issue would be if they had copied the image exactly, and claimed it as their own work. Since this is neither a direct copy, nor is it "competing commercially with the original", there really isn't a plagiarism issue at all.

Concession #1 of art, sometimes copying poses helps to develop better skills.

I don't think it's really necessary to credit the original, either. If you recognize the pose, fine, that's cool, but poses are generic and don't represent the work of art as a whole.

People draw fan art of copyrighted OCs all the time without crediting the copyright holder, and i think that's a way bigger issue than not crediting a pose.

I'll probably be hated by a bunch of folk for saying so, but i really don't see an issue with this picture at all.. what so ever.

P.S. I think this is totally way better done than the Renamon original anyway. :P

Jameberlin wrote:I think i made that pose in real life once. WAS IT ETHICAL?!?! MAYBE NOT D:

I say, I say, is that what they call a moral stance? *rimshot*

Actually, you can't really copyright a pose. It's like, impossibuhls. You can copyright the image as a whole, the character, and the general composition, but not the physical pose the character is making. If you could copyright a pose, i know a lot of pin up artists who would be in deep trouble.

Agreed, poses fall the wrong side of the idea/expression divide (and IMO, character copyright is on pretty shaky ground there too).

Though, if you were to reuse somebody's entire dance routine... well, let's just say that some copyright maximalist tossers might get unduly aroused at the idea and start being dicks about it.

I don't think it's really necessary to credit the original, either. If you recognize the pose, fine, that's cool, but poses are generic and don't represent the work of art as a whole.

Hmm. Not quite my point: plagiarism's about unearned increments to one's reputation, and it isn't a copyright thing. Not even close, completely different fields. F'r'ex you can plagiarise ideas and poses even if you can't copyright-infringe that sort of intangible thing.

But yeah. Conversely. People copy, people even ohmigawsh! trace, and that's how artists experiment and grow. It should be tolerated and encouraged, and let's burn all the lawyers

P.S. I think this is totally way better done than the Renamon original anyway. :P

Oh hell yes. Agreed.

I get a "just waking up" vibe from this for some reason.

I feel is a good work, yes I remember I saw a similar position in another pic from another artist, but what? me like that pic and I feel is a much better work with the colors. Congradulations man for it.

This is based on a Renamon pic by Carabiner, isn't it?

Yes and what? I feel is good, whatever.

That's bloody good.
I guess you got the pose of one of Karabiner's of Renamon?

You should at least give Karabiner some credit for this, either on the image or in the description.