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In my ongoing quest to obtain one (or more) of every standardized body armor issued by the US military, Ive recently obtained one which many people would never have heard of.
This vest is the U.S. Navy's Mk1Mod0 NFV (or, Navy Flak Vest) For any that might remember it, this was also called the General Quarters vest. It is, for all intents and purposes, the Navy's version of the then standard PASGT vest.
There are few major differences however. Firstly, and most obviously, the vest is solid OD green rather then woodland camo.
There are no pockets or grenade hangers. These have been replaced by adjustable elastic webbing which lets you make it tight or loose as you want. This is because the vest only comes in medium and extra large sizes. The shoulder straps are also adjustable having 3 positions they can be snapped down in. The ballistic properties are a bit higher then that of the PASGT but considering they were still designed for fragments its barely worth noting.
The outer cover for the NFV, rather then being nylon canvas like the PASGT, is made from fire retardant aramid fabric (likely nomex).
Later next week, I should be obtaining one of the hardest to get flak jackets, and the first ever issued to US ground troops back in 1944, the M12 (T64).
This vest is the U.S. Navy's Mk1Mod0 NFV (or, Navy Flak Vest) For any that might remember it, this was also called the General Quarters vest. It is, for all intents and purposes, the Navy's version of the then standard PASGT vest.
There are few major differences however. Firstly, and most obviously, the vest is solid OD green rather then woodland camo.
There are no pockets or grenade hangers. These have been replaced by adjustable elastic webbing which lets you make it tight or loose as you want. This is because the vest only comes in medium and extra large sizes. The shoulder straps are also adjustable having 3 positions they can be snapped down in. The ballistic properties are a bit higher then that of the PASGT but considering they were still designed for fragments its barely worth noting.
The outer cover for the NFV, rather then being nylon canvas like the PASGT, is made from fire retardant aramid fabric (likely nomex).
Later next week, I should be obtaining one of the hardest to get flak jackets, and the first ever issued to US ground troops back in 1944, the M12 (T64).
Category All / All
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 672 x 906px
File Size 668.9 kB
This is awesome. Haven't heard of many people with body armor collections! Do you collect a lot of other army stuff? (Vintage weapons, tank parts, uniforms, etc)
Oh! And I was wondering if it is at all even close to possible to obtain this body armor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon.....kin_body_armor
There's a ton of hype and speculation floating about it, especially since it couldn't withstand a 7.62x51mm NATO round at some weird, super high temperature. I don't know, the stuff looks pretty sound to me. If there's an armor that can take a grenade blast and still not be penetrated, you've gotta give it some cred. Very interesting collection you got going on here! Awesome good stuff!
Oh! And I was wondering if it is at all even close to possible to obtain this body armor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon.....kin_body_armor
There's a ton of hype and speculation floating about it, especially since it couldn't withstand a 7.62x51mm NATO round at some weird, super high temperature. I don't know, the stuff looks pretty sound to me. If there's an armor that can take a grenade blast and still not be penetrated, you've gotta give it some cred. Very interesting collection you got going on here! Awesome good stuff!
I collect a lot of old military stuff, but body armor is my big thing right now. I have one or two old uniforms lying around not counting my own. Mostly WWII stuff.
Just about any vest can withstand a grenade, even the old flak jackets from Vietnam and Korea. That's what they were designed for. The problem is stopping rifle bullets, which up until the early 90's wasn't really feasible on a large scale (they did have ceramic plate armor in Vietnam that would stop a direct AKM hit but they were too heavy for ground forces).
Dragon skin armor has a lot of downsides. One being that it is not inherently fire resistant like Kevlar. Also it seems that Pinnacle has just invented their own ballistics rating. they offer a Level V vest, for example. The NIJ does not have a Level V rating, so no one really knows what that's supposed to mean. And if they're going to make that up, who knows what they're rating system means at all. Either way, the Military needs armor that is based on one standard rating system, which is why they use NIJ standards. If protection cannot be guaranteed then a piece of armor is essentially useless.
As for availability, sure, you can get a dragon skin vest. A lot of suppliers wont sell to civilians for one reason or another, but there is nothing illegal about them if you find one that will. The reason Dragon skin doesn't interest me is that, for one, it isn't a U.S. Issue item, so its not something that belongs in my collection. Also they cost like $2000, which is stupid expensive for something that might not even work.
I'm basically only interested in in older issue armor. I'm not really interested in anything that is still manufactured, since I already have my own personal body armor should I need it. Its the stuff they used 40 or 50 years ago that really interests me.
Just about any vest can withstand a grenade, even the old flak jackets from Vietnam and Korea. That's what they were designed for. The problem is stopping rifle bullets, which up until the early 90's wasn't really feasible on a large scale (they did have ceramic plate armor in Vietnam that would stop a direct AKM hit but they were too heavy for ground forces).
Dragon skin armor has a lot of downsides. One being that it is not inherently fire resistant like Kevlar. Also it seems that Pinnacle has just invented their own ballistics rating. they offer a Level V vest, for example. The NIJ does not have a Level V rating, so no one really knows what that's supposed to mean. And if they're going to make that up, who knows what they're rating system means at all. Either way, the Military needs armor that is based on one standard rating system, which is why they use NIJ standards. If protection cannot be guaranteed then a piece of armor is essentially useless.
As for availability, sure, you can get a dragon skin vest. A lot of suppliers wont sell to civilians for one reason or another, but there is nothing illegal about them if you find one that will. The reason Dragon skin doesn't interest me is that, for one, it isn't a U.S. Issue item, so its not something that belongs in my collection. Also they cost like $2000, which is stupid expensive for something that might not even work.
I'm basically only interested in in older issue armor. I'm not really interested in anything that is still manufactured, since I already have my own personal body armor should I need it. Its the stuff they used 40 or 50 years ago that really interests me.
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