The theme of this float is that electric cars are a great idea - if you ignore that fact that the coltan necessary to build the batteries as many electric cars (and smart phones) as the german gouverment wants, is mined in african mines under inhumane slavery-like conditions.
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Yeah, the greens ignore whatever is inconvenient. I read that the fossil fuel that goes into the production of a wind tower exceeds what that wind tower is expected to generate over its lifetime. And where does the electricity for electric cars come from? Mostly from fossil fuel energy plants, and when you consider the loss of energy over the transmission lines it makes more sense just to burn the fossil fuel in a car. Less pollution that way.
I'm sorry to be 'that guy', but both the things you've said here aren't really accurate. They're the kind of thing that gets passed around on social media.
First that wind turbine thing. It's only true in certain circumstances, like building a turbine in an area with insufficient wind. The author states that the return on a wind turbine paying back it's total fossil fuel cost to produce can be as little as 3 years in a good location. The point was: don't build them in dumb spots because it's counterproductive, not wind turbines = bad
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/w.....d-idiot-power/
The electric car thing is more accurate, but transmission loss isn't that much of a problem. The real issue is with fossil fuels used in building the cars (batteries especially) and being used to power them. If we move more power production over to renewable this problem decreases (which is the eventual hope). But, even now, an electric motor (which are very efficient) driving a car is still more efficient (when comparing just the gas vs electric power, not production cost of batteries etc) even when you include transmission loss and assume the electricity comes from a coal plant. This is because electric motors are more efficient at translating the stored electricity into motive force, and fossil fuel plants are more efficient at extracting electricity from their fuel source than burning gasoline individually in each car. These efficiencies overcome the power lost in transmission. In most parts of the us, the effective c02 output of an electric vehicle powered from the grid comes out well above 50mpg (average is 80mpg) with only a few spots being as low as 38mpg or so. So for a gasoline car to be more efficient, you have to be beating that number for your location. Not to mention the energy costs of refining and distributing gasoline.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti.....-electric-cars
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti.....s-rely-on-coal
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichm.....to-get-cleaner
Now I can say all this, but the trick with the post-truth world we live in now is A: you'll probably get mad at me for contradicting you, and B: it was so much easier for someone to make up and pass to you the misinformation you were given. Because its short and sounds good.
A lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on :(
First that wind turbine thing. It's only true in certain circumstances, like building a turbine in an area with insufficient wind. The author states that the return on a wind turbine paying back it's total fossil fuel cost to produce can be as little as 3 years in a good location. The point was: don't build them in dumb spots because it's counterproductive, not wind turbines = bad
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/w.....d-idiot-power/
The electric car thing is more accurate, but transmission loss isn't that much of a problem. The real issue is with fossil fuels used in building the cars (batteries especially) and being used to power them. If we move more power production over to renewable this problem decreases (which is the eventual hope). But, even now, an electric motor (which are very efficient) driving a car is still more efficient (when comparing just the gas vs electric power, not production cost of batteries etc) even when you include transmission loss and assume the electricity comes from a coal plant. This is because electric motors are more efficient at translating the stored electricity into motive force, and fossil fuel plants are more efficient at extracting electricity from their fuel source than burning gasoline individually in each car. These efficiencies overcome the power lost in transmission. In most parts of the us, the effective c02 output of an electric vehicle powered from the grid comes out well above 50mpg (average is 80mpg) with only a few spots being as low as 38mpg or so. So for a gasoline car to be more efficient, you have to be beating that number for your location. Not to mention the energy costs of refining and distributing gasoline.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti.....-electric-cars
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti.....s-rely-on-coal
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichm.....to-get-cleaner
Now I can say all this, but the trick with the post-truth world we live in now is A: you'll probably get mad at me for contradicting you, and B: it was so much easier for someone to make up and pass to you the misinformation you were given. Because its short and sounds good.
A lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on :(
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