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Couch Kitties: Haulin' Coal...
In a chat a few days back, 
EOCostello wondered aloud whether Sylvia Siamese and Norma Bates Kitteh would behave themselves better knowing that Santa was arriving soon...
Now, he should know better than that!
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sharra. Tali and the kittehs © me.
http://couchkitties.comicgenesis.com/
EOCostello wondered aloud whether Sylvia Siamese and Norma Bates Kitteh would behave themselves better knowing that Santa was arriving soon... Now, he should know better than that!
Zeph ©
sharra. Tali and the kittehs © me. http://couchkitties.comicgenesis.com/
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given I usually get around $100 to 150 A ton for scrap metal . The fact that coal is only 40 A ton almost doesn't seem to make it worth it. You know how bad they'd have to be just to get $40 in coal ? My point being they could be up there with global terrorism and still probably not make much in how much coal They get.$40 a ton that's just sad. No wonder there was somebody that had an and that had a fair bit of it on their property looking to get it removed. I forget if they were giving it away out right or what And nobody seemed to be interested because it was a fairly remote spot. Vaguely remember the ad turning up a few months ago and at the time I thought to myself. I was under the impression cold was more valuable. But as I suspected. Apparently it's not worth much. I can are member it used to be a running gag about selling the coal that Santa gave you and making good Christmas money. At that kind of price you wouldn't make much when you factor in hauling it.
Woah, Woah, Woah. Slow down there. Take a deep breath. Okay. I feel what you've written is very important as I'm on the fringes of Ironwork and restoration/recycling myself. I was also very surprised to discover that the price of Coal was so low compared to other fossil fuels. Of course the site where I checked the prices on listed the transportation costs added something like $11.00 and some change to the cost of the price per ton. In some instances the cost of the coal itself seems really inexpensive, but there are added on charges that the companies don't bother to mention that drives the costs up.
When I was living in the Mojave, occasionally I'd see ten to twenty hopper cars loaded with coal sitting on a siding, most likely heading to the powerplant just outside of Laughlin, NV, and my friend Jim and I calculated just how long that shipment of coal might last. If I recall correctly, that string of ten hopper cars would barely last five days, given the rate of consumption of the furnaces. It boggles my mind to consider those days in Fontana CA and Pittsburgh PA when the Iron production plants were in full swing. It took decades to remove the toxins and damage done to the area from the mountains of coal piled up near the plant, and clear the areas around the slag dumps.
It does make me wonder though, about how much coal is actually out there. The minerals are still being mined in Kentucky, Texas, and Wyoming, but sooner or later the supply will reach a "Critical" state, and when that happens, what will we do? I'm hoping we'll have found remedies in alternative, renewable resources, but those advances and adaptations in industry seem to be progressing at a very slow state. Especially when Oil and Coal are being touted as very inexpensive and abundant.
When I was living in the Mojave, occasionally I'd see ten to twenty hopper cars loaded with coal sitting on a siding, most likely heading to the powerplant just outside of Laughlin, NV, and my friend Jim and I calculated just how long that shipment of coal might last. If I recall correctly, that string of ten hopper cars would barely last five days, given the rate of consumption of the furnaces. It boggles my mind to consider those days in Fontana CA and Pittsburgh PA when the Iron production plants were in full swing. It took decades to remove the toxins and damage done to the area from the mountains of coal piled up near the plant, and clear the areas around the slag dumps.
It does make me wonder though, about how much coal is actually out there. The minerals are still being mined in Kentucky, Texas, and Wyoming, but sooner or later the supply will reach a "Critical" state, and when that happens, what will we do? I'm hoping we'll have found remedies in alternative, renewable resources, but those advances and adaptations in industry seem to be progressing at a very slow state. Especially when Oil and Coal are being touted as very inexpensive and abundant.
I actually know that. Only point I was making was cold being less than scrap metal was kind of said. When you think about how much it would take to make a tun those kitty cats wouldn't be getting a lot. That was all I meant.
The question isn't really about alternatives. I hate to come right out and say this multiple alternatives have Artie been found, tested, and then the research seized or just out right shut down and what a way it's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy It's public record. I'm going to mention something that'll have a lot of people pointing at me and calling BS, but if you go through Canadian media records, which I frankly couldn't be bothered to do. You can fact check this.
When I was in high school the Canadian government announced in the media. They had built and were using 1 for more Proteau type passenger buses in Newfoundland that ran on saltwater it cost him several million dollars to build each one. When they released this to the public. They were in the process of building multiple larger ones as a secondary pilot program. The larger buses were almost complete and due to go into public service. Bear in mind they had at least one prototype on the road shuttling around passengers. That particular news story was never mentioned again. Nobody ever thought anything about it and went about their lives. This was a government run pilot program, not some college student in a laboratory. This was back around 95 or 96 and run by a major world government, not some crackpot out of his workshop. Were not talking about a motor being tested in a laboratory were talking about something on the road chugging away. I forget at the time. I know it was in the millions. They spent on the first one and they figure the bigger ones might be cheaper to build where they were refining the process. What they were looking to discover was how cost effective. It was built. These buses and what kind of Lifespan they would have . It blows my mind. You never hear anybody asking what happened. Everybody just forgot about it like it never happened.
During the Ronald Reagan administration, the American government created a series of artificially formed gases that would run conventional automobiles. One formula was diesel made from Lance that grow in the swamp. The other couple of fuels were artificially created gasoline that would run regular combustion engines. The entire project was scrapped because they claimed it was not cost effective that nobody would pay around five dollars a gallon for gasoline. When the alternative was significantly cheaper than this new laboratory created formula and the project was shut down. Over here in Canada, if I remember correctly, were paying well over five dollars a gallon with the taxes and everything. In fact, the price of the gas here is mostly so I do to all the taxes . All that research should still be out there somewheres from that project in the 1980s and I'm sure if somebody was in a position to continue the research the price could be dropped significantly. Nobody wants to do it because it would interfere with a existing financial ecosystem. You can't build a new wheel if it puts So much of a financial ecosystem in jeopardy.
do you know how many times the electric car was destroyed quite literally by the world oil industry? There is a documentary about thousands of electric cars that were built and never allowed to reach the public that were all taken and destroyed in the United States. Nobody ever got a choice to even touch the vehicles they were all taken out and crushed the documentary is called who killed the electric car. For the record, I can't say I've ever watched the documentary itself. What I do know is several automotive manufacturers lost a crap ton of money where they had produced these vehicles to be sold to the public, and had the rug pulled out from under them, and it's a big part of what led to that automotive bailout, some years back I still are member there being news stories showing brand-new cars being loaded onto transport units driven away and crushed. Were not talking about five or six prototypes were talking about whole dealerships worth of vehicles. To this day the electric current market is still being heavily restrained when you realize what's actually on the market versus what could actually be on the market.
Personally in my opinion electric cars are not even the answer. The answer is to create a artificial fuel substance that will run existing engines and the technology has long been out there and it keeps being taken away from the public. Any time somebody tries to research it. This has literally led to people refusing to continue doing research. Because of what happened to others that it's public record. Today's electric cars are literally based on the work of a individual who built one in the early 70s and lost. Basically everything and was shot down. He spent I think 10 years of his life. Initially on the prototype and a couple of years ago got a knock on the door about his research and still had the prototype in storage. This guy right up into the 80s was in court I forget which automotive manufacture came along to talk to him about the prototype where they were having trouble with what they were trying to do and found out about what this guy built back in the late 60s and was testing in the 70s for GM or Dodge, 40 got shut down. Once again I caught up on that because of the documentary on the history Channel.
They already have artificially created in general oil on the market and the reason it's so expensive is actually due to the fact it's being Expensive where it challenges the regular oral market and in order for it to be a product on the market the price has to be High or it would've been removed from the market long ago.
I hate to come right out and say it, but several world governments already have gasoline alternatives developed and the information has not been released to the public. In some cases it literally has been released to the public but basically nobody's allowed to do anything with the research.
I know I sound like a tin foil hat guy but what it actually boils down to is things that risk large amounts of the world's global financial ecosystem are just going to keep being shut down until there in a position to not risk a particular financial ecosystem. There's plenty of examples of things being shut down because of how much risk It presented to financial markets.
Right now there's talk about automating periods aspects of our lives that would do away with over 20 or 30% of the world labor force. The reason these jobs haven't been automated years ago is due to the fact how many people would with snap your fingers have no jobs and no other jobs available to them. Imagine if you woke up to moral and another 15% of the American people that morning were all unemployed, on top of what the other limit rate already is. Were just talking one country were not talking globally. If they continue to raise the minimum wage in countries like the US most minimum wage and always will quite quickly be replaced by automation. The only reason they haven't already been replacer is the initial cost of replacing them. If it becomes a position of the cost being recuperated in a proximately six months of their replacement. Most major corporations will simply and very quickly replace their human labor force and those people will all be without a job without anything to turn to. As an alternative, let's say this is done in several major countries like Britain, America, Canada, etc. the financial backlash will be quite staggering and it may still take ladies in your lifetime and mine.
There were protesters waving signs that read that they wanted wage increases that they are not machines that were workers for Amazon. Some of us were literally choking that they should be very careful waving those signs around at any given time. Those workers could already have been replaced by machines, which Amazon would recuperate the cost in a very short time and literally replacing them with machines would take about six months or less through automation. The only reason they haven't been replaced already is. It's still cheaper to have a human labor force. But the minute it's no longer cheaper and convenient. The more minimum wage employees complain about being treated like slaves. The sooner they're going to be without work is what it boils down to. Right here in Canada. They're already doing away with cashiers and clerks at stores and it's very inconvenient for the shopping public and nobody gets a say in the matter. It's becoming more and more of a situation where the clerks they are employing our flat out not doing their jobs on top of being replaced. There's literally comments like welcome to Walmart. How may we not help you! Similar slogans like that for businesses such as Best Buy and so forth.
You ask a clerk for assistance at any number of chain stores and you'll get some are marked like bats not my department, I'm on my break, go look it up on the Internet, that's on our website, they're all too happy to avoid doing any work. Last eight months or so a new trend. I'm noticing is stores looking like Russia, entire sections of stores empty shelves not being stalked and the big insult is older merchandise is literally at the store sitting out back and the clerks are slacking off from even Robert Lee stalking the stores and getting away with it. It's like laziness is the new virus. I sound like I'm crazy right?
Local convenience store, where I live. I walked in do something right out of a George Romero zombie movie normally there'd be about, give or take 20 employees in the store. There was one cashier in the store, not a single other cashier or floor personnel items were clearly visible sitting waiting to be brought out from the employee only zones and put on the shelves and remain untouched. Customers are not allowed to merely go in, pick up the items and go about their day. I got pretty pissed off for the simple and plain fact the next grocery store is 60 miles away and I couldn't get anything whole shelves work please leave vacant. I even question the cashier and wasn't formed only three people showed up to work from the entire days staff. The other two had already clocked out once they served their shift. She was the last remaining who shift and ended yet. Her job was strictly to operate the cash register and did not include stocking the shelves or anything else, so it wasn't her problem nor was it her problem. Nobody else showed up to work. Once her shift was over. She'd merely locked up the store and laughed despite the fact nobody came to take over, which resulted in the store closing several hours earlier than normal. It only happened once and there's been no discussion about exactly what happened that almost none of the staff showed up that day. Little stunts like that are what's going to hasten complete removal of cashiers all together and most stores are already significantly cutting back on the amount of people they bother having to stock shelves. Most people they employ as cashiers can't stock shelves and that's why they're cashiers in the first place. If they start increasing automation it's going to result in more unemployment.
The same reason that they're fighting braying in artificially generated and alternate energy generation is going to be what's going to cripple the world in a whole different ballpark overnight loss of revenue due to a new product is what's holding back alternate energy sources. Ironically, the labor force is what's going to cause the same problem a reduction in the labor force is going to cause global economy problems and human beings are what's going to cause it. It's kind of funny when you think about it all the fighting that's been done to stop the crash of the fossil fuel market but at the same time it's going to be the branch of the labor market that's going to cause the same problem.
The question isn't really about alternatives. I hate to come right out and say this multiple alternatives have Artie been found, tested, and then the research seized or just out right shut down and what a way it's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy It's public record. I'm going to mention something that'll have a lot of people pointing at me and calling BS, but if you go through Canadian media records, which I frankly couldn't be bothered to do. You can fact check this.
When I was in high school the Canadian government announced in the media. They had built and were using 1 for more Proteau type passenger buses in Newfoundland that ran on saltwater it cost him several million dollars to build each one. When they released this to the public. They were in the process of building multiple larger ones as a secondary pilot program. The larger buses were almost complete and due to go into public service. Bear in mind they had at least one prototype on the road shuttling around passengers. That particular news story was never mentioned again. Nobody ever thought anything about it and went about their lives. This was a government run pilot program, not some college student in a laboratory. This was back around 95 or 96 and run by a major world government, not some crackpot out of his workshop. Were not talking about a motor being tested in a laboratory were talking about something on the road chugging away. I forget at the time. I know it was in the millions. They spent on the first one and they figure the bigger ones might be cheaper to build where they were refining the process. What they were looking to discover was how cost effective. It was built. These buses and what kind of Lifespan they would have . It blows my mind. You never hear anybody asking what happened. Everybody just forgot about it like it never happened.
During the Ronald Reagan administration, the American government created a series of artificially formed gases that would run conventional automobiles. One formula was diesel made from Lance that grow in the swamp. The other couple of fuels were artificially created gasoline that would run regular combustion engines. The entire project was scrapped because they claimed it was not cost effective that nobody would pay around five dollars a gallon for gasoline. When the alternative was significantly cheaper than this new laboratory created formula and the project was shut down. Over here in Canada, if I remember correctly, were paying well over five dollars a gallon with the taxes and everything. In fact, the price of the gas here is mostly so I do to all the taxes . All that research should still be out there somewheres from that project in the 1980s and I'm sure if somebody was in a position to continue the research the price could be dropped significantly. Nobody wants to do it because it would interfere with a existing financial ecosystem. You can't build a new wheel if it puts So much of a financial ecosystem in jeopardy.
do you know how many times the electric car was destroyed quite literally by the world oil industry? There is a documentary about thousands of electric cars that were built and never allowed to reach the public that were all taken and destroyed in the United States. Nobody ever got a choice to even touch the vehicles they were all taken out and crushed the documentary is called who killed the electric car. For the record, I can't say I've ever watched the documentary itself. What I do know is several automotive manufacturers lost a crap ton of money where they had produced these vehicles to be sold to the public, and had the rug pulled out from under them, and it's a big part of what led to that automotive bailout, some years back I still are member there being news stories showing brand-new cars being loaded onto transport units driven away and crushed. Were not talking about five or six prototypes were talking about whole dealerships worth of vehicles. To this day the electric current market is still being heavily restrained when you realize what's actually on the market versus what could actually be on the market.
Personally in my opinion electric cars are not even the answer. The answer is to create a artificial fuel substance that will run existing engines and the technology has long been out there and it keeps being taken away from the public. Any time somebody tries to research it. This has literally led to people refusing to continue doing research. Because of what happened to others that it's public record. Today's electric cars are literally based on the work of a individual who built one in the early 70s and lost. Basically everything and was shot down. He spent I think 10 years of his life. Initially on the prototype and a couple of years ago got a knock on the door about his research and still had the prototype in storage. This guy right up into the 80s was in court I forget which automotive manufacture came along to talk to him about the prototype where they were having trouble with what they were trying to do and found out about what this guy built back in the late 60s and was testing in the 70s for GM or Dodge, 40 got shut down. Once again I caught up on that because of the documentary on the history Channel.
They already have artificially created in general oil on the market and the reason it's so expensive is actually due to the fact it's being Expensive where it challenges the regular oral market and in order for it to be a product on the market the price has to be High or it would've been removed from the market long ago.
I hate to come right out and say it, but several world governments already have gasoline alternatives developed and the information has not been released to the public. In some cases it literally has been released to the public but basically nobody's allowed to do anything with the research.
I know I sound like a tin foil hat guy but what it actually boils down to is things that risk large amounts of the world's global financial ecosystem are just going to keep being shut down until there in a position to not risk a particular financial ecosystem. There's plenty of examples of things being shut down because of how much risk It presented to financial markets.
Right now there's talk about automating periods aspects of our lives that would do away with over 20 or 30% of the world labor force. The reason these jobs haven't been automated years ago is due to the fact how many people would with snap your fingers have no jobs and no other jobs available to them. Imagine if you woke up to moral and another 15% of the American people that morning were all unemployed, on top of what the other limit rate already is. Were just talking one country were not talking globally. If they continue to raise the minimum wage in countries like the US most minimum wage and always will quite quickly be replaced by automation. The only reason they haven't already been replacer is the initial cost of replacing them. If it becomes a position of the cost being recuperated in a proximately six months of their replacement. Most major corporations will simply and very quickly replace their human labor force and those people will all be without a job without anything to turn to. As an alternative, let's say this is done in several major countries like Britain, America, Canada, etc. the financial backlash will be quite staggering and it may still take ladies in your lifetime and mine.
There were protesters waving signs that read that they wanted wage increases that they are not machines that were workers for Amazon. Some of us were literally choking that they should be very careful waving those signs around at any given time. Those workers could already have been replaced by machines, which Amazon would recuperate the cost in a very short time and literally replacing them with machines would take about six months or less through automation. The only reason they haven't been replaced already is. It's still cheaper to have a human labor force. But the minute it's no longer cheaper and convenient. The more minimum wage employees complain about being treated like slaves. The sooner they're going to be without work is what it boils down to. Right here in Canada. They're already doing away with cashiers and clerks at stores and it's very inconvenient for the shopping public and nobody gets a say in the matter. It's becoming more and more of a situation where the clerks they are employing our flat out not doing their jobs on top of being replaced. There's literally comments like welcome to Walmart. How may we not help you! Similar slogans like that for businesses such as Best Buy and so forth.
You ask a clerk for assistance at any number of chain stores and you'll get some are marked like bats not my department, I'm on my break, go look it up on the Internet, that's on our website, they're all too happy to avoid doing any work. Last eight months or so a new trend. I'm noticing is stores looking like Russia, entire sections of stores empty shelves not being stalked and the big insult is older merchandise is literally at the store sitting out back and the clerks are slacking off from even Robert Lee stalking the stores and getting away with it. It's like laziness is the new virus. I sound like I'm crazy right?
Local convenience store, where I live. I walked in do something right out of a George Romero zombie movie normally there'd be about, give or take 20 employees in the store. There was one cashier in the store, not a single other cashier or floor personnel items were clearly visible sitting waiting to be brought out from the employee only zones and put on the shelves and remain untouched. Customers are not allowed to merely go in, pick up the items and go about their day. I got pretty pissed off for the simple and plain fact the next grocery store is 60 miles away and I couldn't get anything whole shelves work please leave vacant. I even question the cashier and wasn't formed only three people showed up to work from the entire days staff. The other two had already clocked out once they served their shift. She was the last remaining who shift and ended yet. Her job was strictly to operate the cash register and did not include stocking the shelves or anything else, so it wasn't her problem nor was it her problem. Nobody else showed up to work. Once her shift was over. She'd merely locked up the store and laughed despite the fact nobody came to take over, which resulted in the store closing several hours earlier than normal. It only happened once and there's been no discussion about exactly what happened that almost none of the staff showed up that day. Little stunts like that are what's going to hasten complete removal of cashiers all together and most stores are already significantly cutting back on the amount of people they bother having to stock shelves. Most people they employ as cashiers can't stock shelves and that's why they're cashiers in the first place. If they start increasing automation it's going to result in more unemployment.
The same reason that they're fighting braying in artificially generated and alternate energy generation is going to be what's going to cripple the world in a whole different ballpark overnight loss of revenue due to a new product is what's holding back alternate energy sources. Ironically, the labor force is what's going to cause the same problem a reduction in the labor force is going to cause global economy problems and human beings are what's going to cause it. It's kind of funny when you think about it all the fighting that's been done to stop the crash of the fossil fuel market but at the same time it's going to be the branch of the labor market that's going to cause the same problem.
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