One thing I totally admit is that this idea is at least 2 months too late, but between getting this idea rather late (about late August) on top of me not wanting to compromise some silly personal schedule (I can be pretty pushy sometimes XD), this ends up showing up only now.
Oh well.
By the way, that's supposed to be Gideon Grey. I know, it's a bit rare for me to draw foxes, especially the chubby ones.
Oh well.
By the way, that's supposed to be Gideon Grey. I know, it's a bit rare for me to draw foxes, especially the chubby ones.
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I'm suspecting that the movie will go on, but I made this drawing as such since based on a few previous cases in multiple media I've read, having an ongoing franchise suddenly being handled by someone else at the helm, especially without the original creator/director's input, may result in quality drop or poorer fan reception. Thus the doomsaying atmosphere: With James Gunn probably gonnabe out of the franchise, who knows what may happen to the end result...
And yeah, I think that's why Gid isn't living in Zootopia. The tech-savvy kids won't let him live that down XD
And yeah, I think that's why Gid isn't living in Zootopia. The tech-savvy kids won't let him live that down XD
It WAS part of a deliberate pushback by conservatives against the rash of incidents involving more rightwing media personalities. It was deliberately engineered to cause pain and annoyance, a case of 'Let's see how you feel when it happens to something YOU like!' It may end up becoming a vicious cycle.
But Disney especially tries its hardest to avoid any and all controversy, playing it extra safe. They try to woo both sides of any issue and backtrack at the slightest issue.
Also I can just see it.
'Well your bakery is quite an impressive establishment Mr. Grey."
"Thankyou Mr. Wollerton."
"However our social media expert was doing some reasearch-"
"Aaah crud."
"'Today one of those buttheads asked me if I could make him a cake, so I did, but it was hard to get all the wool outta the batter.'"
"Now y'see..."
"Goodbye Mr. Grey."
But Disney especially tries its hardest to avoid any and all controversy, playing it extra safe. They try to woo both sides of any issue and backtrack at the slightest issue.
Also I can just see it.
'Well your bakery is quite an impressive establishment Mr. Grey."
"Thankyou Mr. Wollerton."
"However our social media expert was doing some reasearch-"
"Aaah crud."
"'Today one of those buttheads asked me if I could make him a cake, so I did, but it was hard to get all the wool outta the batter.'"
"Now y'see..."
"Goodbye Mr. Grey."
Yeah, I only discovered about the political elements of this scandal later, so to be frank I don't really have much to say other than "That jerk!". Really miffed about the entire thing, regardless, though.
And speaking of avoiding controversy, you have a point. Having said that though, I am partially worried (if I should be, that is) that even if Disney rehires James later to continue on Guardians 3, the reasons will be nothing benevolent such as "Dear Mr. Gunn, we are sorry that we have taken such an extreme measure and caused you distress, so we are taking back our verdict", and more like "Hey, let's hire him back when the time is right so all the drama surrounding his firing before could help boost the popularity of this movie". It may sound weird, but I've seen a few works being mostly (in)famous due to off-universe controversies, and in some of those cases it's almost as if the publisher deliberately wanted such controversies to happen so that they get popular... Ah, well, I guess I can only say I hope for the best for him; To me, James absolutely doesn't deserve this crap after that long.
Lastly, I wonder if you'd like to make a quick fanfiction to expand about what you just wrote? XD
And speaking of avoiding controversy, you have a point. Having said that though, I am partially worried (if I should be, that is) that even if Disney rehires James later to continue on Guardians 3, the reasons will be nothing benevolent such as "Dear Mr. Gunn, we are sorry that we have taken such an extreme measure and caused you distress, so we are taking back our verdict", and more like "Hey, let's hire him back when the time is right so all the drama surrounding his firing before could help boost the popularity of this movie". It may sound weird, but I've seen a few works being mostly (in)famous due to off-universe controversies, and in some of those cases it's almost as if the publisher deliberately wanted such controversies to happen so that they get popular... Ah, well, I guess I can only say I hope for the best for him; To me, James absolutely doesn't deserve this crap after that long.
Lastly, I wonder if you'd like to make a quick fanfiction to expand about what you just wrote? XD
It's Disney, their reasons are NEVER benevolent. Zootopia itself was a cash-in aimed at the left, they courted furries then denied they even knew what the word meant and made sure that predators as a minority couldn't be linked to any real-world (and thus offensive) group. There may be people there who care, but from day 1 Gunn was hired for sheer financial reasons. If they DO take him back it WILL be couched in 'Terrible mistake... support of fans... shown contrition...' but it will be again purely financial.
Because they DO stoke controversy for cash. Nike's Kapernik adverts? They got a lot of free advertizing from that. Sure they lose a few rightwing customers, but they pull in more lefties (Who were already their mainstay.) Pepsi's tone-deaf advert about saving the world with softdrink? Sales jumped. iHOP's iHOB campaign? Ridiculous but caused a 64% increase in burger sales. And as for movies hoo boy. It's not even new. The Rescuers? Rather medicore-performing cartoon piece. But, surprise surprise, when it was released to video someone found a single frame with a nude woman in it. Cue apologies, offers of refunds and a nearly 4'000% increase in sales when a previously almost unknown release popped up on the daily news.
How quick is quick'? My comment fics have ranged from a paragraph to one that lasted nearly a year and went to 90'000 words.
Because they DO stoke controversy for cash. Nike's Kapernik adverts? They got a lot of free advertizing from that. Sure they lose a few rightwing customers, but they pull in more lefties (Who were already their mainstay.) Pepsi's tone-deaf advert about saving the world with softdrink? Sales jumped. iHOP's iHOB campaign? Ridiculous but caused a 64% increase in burger sales. And as for movies hoo boy. It's not even new. The Rescuers? Rather medicore-performing cartoon piece. But, surprise surprise, when it was released to video someone found a single frame with a nude woman in it. Cue apologies, offers of refunds and a nearly 4'000% increase in sales when a previously almost unknown release popped up on the daily news.
How quick is quick'? My comment fics have ranged from a paragraph to one that lasted nearly a year and went to 90'000 words.
True. In a way this case is pretty much a sobering wake-up call that at the end of the day, Disney is a company, and a company cares only about one thing: Making money. Whether the movies they publish are bread-and-butter, or if they actually have fair points about contemporary situations etc doesn't really matter in the end. The actual film makers (as in, the directors, scriptwriters etc) may actually care, but for the company, what matters is income, whatever method it takes.
But holy hell, that Rescuers case is frikkin ridiculous.....
As for length, well, I don't really want much, maybe just a short one scene kind-of-thing, if you get what I mean :)
But holy hell, that Rescuers case is frikkin ridiculous.....
As for length, well, I don't really want much, maybe just a short one scene kind-of-thing, if you get what I mean :)
Ridiculous...ly brilliant. So many of us are being played like grand pianos.
How's this, fic-wise?
Gideon Grey sat with his hands crossed over his ample stomach, fingers fidgeting nervously as he waited for the ram in the adjoining room to sit down behind his desk and give the final verdict on whether or not he'd be catering next month's Gazelle concert. He'd provided some samples of both predator and prey focused treats three days ago and had been walking on eggshells ever since.
Equity Productions, which handled Gazelle's tour schedule and preparations, was not a smal-timel customer. In fact they'd be by far the largest order he and his business would have ever had... if he got the contract. The Tri-Burrows concert was widely considered by outsiders to be some small affair in the middle of nowhere. Quite possibly they envisioned a home-made stage with a crowd of a few dozen hick bunnies. They didn't understand that the area held a population to rival that of Zootopia itself. They were smaller, but much more plentiful. The concert venue itself had been renegotiated no less than six times as it became obvious that a crowd of several thousand would show up. There wasn't a building near big enough to contain it and a poorly chosen field would be churned into mud in half an hour. A small construction crew was even now setting things up, a month in advance!
And as for the refreshments... he wouldn't be handling those, not nearly. Drinks weren't his forte, nor were savory options or the whole health-food fad. It was pies, pastries and biscuits for him. But even so, even as a small fraction of the edibles that would be on offer, the order ran into the thousands of each. He'd have to start baking a week before and come the end he'd have rolling ovens going a full 48 hours straight. It'd be exhausting and near impossible... but it'd put him on the map. From there he could do anything.
IF he got the contract.
After a seeming eternity the ram whose desk plaque proclaimed him to be David S. Wollerton, Chief Strategist, opened the door, walked over and sat down. He shuffled some papers while the fox sweat bullets; always unable to tell exactly where a sheep was looking with those weird eyes of theirs. Finally he looked up and spoke.
"Well Mr... Grey isn't it? 'E' or 'A'?"
"Yes... what...? Oh! 'E', family is from Bristol."
"Right."
He seemed calm and composed enough, level-headed. Was that a good sign? It didn't look like he had bad news, but then again city folk were famed for being able to tell you your house was being foreclosed upon with a straight face and no mercy.
"We've passed around your samples and we, and especially I, must say they certainly meet our standards in regard to quality. There was some initial concern that you wouldn't be able to increase production to meet the order but we had some of our guys poke around and ask questions and it seems you've cultivated quite the reputation for reliability among the townsfolk. Normally I wouldn't hesitate to approve your bid-"
Gideon's heart leapt and he struggled to maintain his composure and not simply break out in a goofy grin. He was a professional and this wasn't a bake sale. This was good news... wait did he say 'normally'? What did that-
"-however during our standard investigation some... issues came to light."
His heart sank. What could they be talking about? had someone badmouthed him perhaps? Did they simply think he couldn't cut it? His mind raced as he ran through any number of possible rebuttals to any objection the sheep might raise.
"Our social media expert was doing some research-"
"Aaah crud."
Wollerton tapped away primly at a keyboard; surprisingly quickly for someone with hooves for hands. Gideon had a terrible, terrible feeling that a long-forgotten webpage was being dredged up from the depths of the internet. But what could it be? He'd had his issues in the past of course, done things he'd regretted... anyone who knew him knew that. But surely there wasn't anything on him around now? He'd made up and settled scores years ago, and everyone had got past it.. hadn't they?
"'Today one of those buttheads asked me if I could make him a cake, so I did, but it was hard to get all the wool outta the batter.'"
Gideon was perplexed. It took a few seconds for his brain to recall the joke, one of the many poor-taste and stupid ones that got passed around schoolyards by kids too dumb to know better. But he was sure ha hadn't said any such thing to anyone... well he was sure until the sheep turned his monitor around, revealing an old Snoutbook profile he'd been Zoogling. His profile... from at least a decade years prior. He'd joined when the network was new, mostly to vent the same kind of garbage that all teens did online, then and now. He'd completely forgotten it was there... how had anyone been able to dig that up? He spluttered incoherently as he tried to make an excuse.
"That... that... that's from years ago! I don't... I wouldn't..."
"In today's world age is just a number Mr. Grey, if we could find this, anyone could. And people DO go searching, Mr. Grey. We here at Equity Productions must be seen to be... principled in all of our dealings and in regards to all we deal with. Ms Gazelle sets a very VERY high bar and any trace of hypocrisy is immediately pounced upon by her legions of fans and detractors alike."
"I can delete that... I think! I have th' password somewhere..."
For a moment the sheep considered this, looking slightly concerned.
"You must understand Mr. Grey, this is a tough business. You will not believe how tough. I don't know if you've ever heard of one Officer Hopps?"
Would that be a good or a bad thing? Did he know about his history with her? What was the right answer? The fox decided to try and play both sides of the field and be noncommittal.
"I may have..."
"We supported her early on,before her... controversial media statements. Then there were the revelations about her family, the fox-taser issue... It's all dead and buried now, especially with the big mess in Zootopia she saw to, that took the heat off to be sure. But it cost us nearly fifty million in canceled gigs and endorsements before it was through and that's not counting what we lost picking a side on the whole predators-vs-prey thing that developed.."
"It was only ever just youthful nonsense sir! We all got past it, y' can ask anyone!"
The sheep nodded understandingly.
"Perhaps, perhaps. It's not that bad, the joke about the tuberat is rather witty, I think. But it's all about appearances these days. If we're to employ you, we need a guarantee that all of this... thisness can be neatly swept under the rug, then the house burned down. Can you assure me that nobody outside of this office need ever see this page again?"
Gideon sighed with relief.A lifeline. If he could just delete all of that nonsense from the past then everyone could just forget about it and he could get onto doing what he was good at, making pies and pastries. Mentally he cursed the internet and its inability to ever forget what anyone had ever said to anyone else, ever. It had all seemed so private back then, so self-contained. He didn't expect anything to be broadcast to the world.
"I can assure you sir, on my honor as a fox, that no trace of that will be left by tomorrow morning."
"Very well then. Once that's taken care of I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to do business. That and the Tweeter account and... huh, you had a Pawspace?"
There was the click of a mouse. Oh crud.
Automatically the computer's speaker began to make a sound. It was blatantly digital chiptune music. Few would have recognized it, but the fox knew it immediately to be Ewe-thenasia by The Barnyard Boys. It was probably a good thing Pawspace didn't have the ability to play mp3s with the vocals. But he knew he had the lyrics posted right on his old profile...
"Now y'see..."
"Goodbye Mr. Grey."
How's this, fic-wise?
Gideon Grey sat with his hands crossed over his ample stomach, fingers fidgeting nervously as he waited for the ram in the adjoining room to sit down behind his desk and give the final verdict on whether or not he'd be catering next month's Gazelle concert. He'd provided some samples of both predator and prey focused treats three days ago and had been walking on eggshells ever since.
Equity Productions, which handled Gazelle's tour schedule and preparations, was not a smal-timel customer. In fact they'd be by far the largest order he and his business would have ever had... if he got the contract. The Tri-Burrows concert was widely considered by outsiders to be some small affair in the middle of nowhere. Quite possibly they envisioned a home-made stage with a crowd of a few dozen hick bunnies. They didn't understand that the area held a population to rival that of Zootopia itself. They were smaller, but much more plentiful. The concert venue itself had been renegotiated no less than six times as it became obvious that a crowd of several thousand would show up. There wasn't a building near big enough to contain it and a poorly chosen field would be churned into mud in half an hour. A small construction crew was even now setting things up, a month in advance!
And as for the refreshments... he wouldn't be handling those, not nearly. Drinks weren't his forte, nor were savory options or the whole health-food fad. It was pies, pastries and biscuits for him. But even so, even as a small fraction of the edibles that would be on offer, the order ran into the thousands of each. He'd have to start baking a week before and come the end he'd have rolling ovens going a full 48 hours straight. It'd be exhausting and near impossible... but it'd put him on the map. From there he could do anything.
IF he got the contract.
After a seeming eternity the ram whose desk plaque proclaimed him to be David S. Wollerton, Chief Strategist, opened the door, walked over and sat down. He shuffled some papers while the fox sweat bullets; always unable to tell exactly where a sheep was looking with those weird eyes of theirs. Finally he looked up and spoke.
"Well Mr... Grey isn't it? 'E' or 'A'?"
"Yes... what...? Oh! 'E', family is from Bristol."
"Right."
He seemed calm and composed enough, level-headed. Was that a good sign? It didn't look like he had bad news, but then again city folk were famed for being able to tell you your house was being foreclosed upon with a straight face and no mercy.
"We've passed around your samples and we, and especially I, must say they certainly meet our standards in regard to quality. There was some initial concern that you wouldn't be able to increase production to meet the order but we had some of our guys poke around and ask questions and it seems you've cultivated quite the reputation for reliability among the townsfolk. Normally I wouldn't hesitate to approve your bid-"
Gideon's heart leapt and he struggled to maintain his composure and not simply break out in a goofy grin. He was a professional and this wasn't a bake sale. This was good news... wait did he say 'normally'? What did that-
"-however during our standard investigation some... issues came to light."
His heart sank. What could they be talking about? had someone badmouthed him perhaps? Did they simply think he couldn't cut it? His mind raced as he ran through any number of possible rebuttals to any objection the sheep might raise.
"Our social media expert was doing some research-"
"Aaah crud."
Wollerton tapped away primly at a keyboard; surprisingly quickly for someone with hooves for hands. Gideon had a terrible, terrible feeling that a long-forgotten webpage was being dredged up from the depths of the internet. But what could it be? He'd had his issues in the past of course, done things he'd regretted... anyone who knew him knew that. But surely there wasn't anything on him around now? He'd made up and settled scores years ago, and everyone had got past it.. hadn't they?
"'Today one of those buttheads asked me if I could make him a cake, so I did, but it was hard to get all the wool outta the batter.'"
Gideon was perplexed. It took a few seconds for his brain to recall the joke, one of the many poor-taste and stupid ones that got passed around schoolyards by kids too dumb to know better. But he was sure ha hadn't said any such thing to anyone... well he was sure until the sheep turned his monitor around, revealing an old Snoutbook profile he'd been Zoogling. His profile... from at least a decade years prior. He'd joined when the network was new, mostly to vent the same kind of garbage that all teens did online, then and now. He'd completely forgotten it was there... how had anyone been able to dig that up? He spluttered incoherently as he tried to make an excuse.
"That... that... that's from years ago! I don't... I wouldn't..."
"In today's world age is just a number Mr. Grey, if we could find this, anyone could. And people DO go searching, Mr. Grey. We here at Equity Productions must be seen to be... principled in all of our dealings and in regards to all we deal with. Ms Gazelle sets a very VERY high bar and any trace of hypocrisy is immediately pounced upon by her legions of fans and detractors alike."
"I can delete that... I think! I have th' password somewhere..."
For a moment the sheep considered this, looking slightly concerned.
"You must understand Mr. Grey, this is a tough business. You will not believe how tough. I don't know if you've ever heard of one Officer Hopps?"
Would that be a good or a bad thing? Did he know about his history with her? What was the right answer? The fox decided to try and play both sides of the field and be noncommittal.
"I may have..."
"We supported her early on,before her... controversial media statements. Then there were the revelations about her family, the fox-taser issue... It's all dead and buried now, especially with the big mess in Zootopia she saw to, that took the heat off to be sure. But it cost us nearly fifty million in canceled gigs and endorsements before it was through and that's not counting what we lost picking a side on the whole predators-vs-prey thing that developed.."
"It was only ever just youthful nonsense sir! We all got past it, y' can ask anyone!"
The sheep nodded understandingly.
"Perhaps, perhaps. It's not that bad, the joke about the tuberat is rather witty, I think. But it's all about appearances these days. If we're to employ you, we need a guarantee that all of this... thisness can be neatly swept under the rug, then the house burned down. Can you assure me that nobody outside of this office need ever see this page again?"
Gideon sighed with relief.A lifeline. If he could just delete all of that nonsense from the past then everyone could just forget about it and he could get onto doing what he was good at, making pies and pastries. Mentally he cursed the internet and its inability to ever forget what anyone had ever said to anyone else, ever. It had all seemed so private back then, so self-contained. He didn't expect anything to be broadcast to the world.
"I can assure you sir, on my honor as a fox, that no trace of that will be left by tomorrow morning."
"Very well then. Once that's taken care of I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to do business. That and the Tweeter account and... huh, you had a Pawspace?"
There was the click of a mouse. Oh crud.
Automatically the computer's speaker began to make a sound. It was blatantly digital chiptune music. Few would have recognized it, but the fox knew it immediately to be Ewe-thenasia by The Barnyard Boys. It was probably a good thing Pawspace didn't have the ability to play mp3s with the vocals. But he knew he had the lyrics posted right on his old profile...
"Now y'see..."
"Goodbye Mr. Grey."
To put it into perspective, Zootopia is one of the only two movies in the entire Disney line-up that I actually at least care about and love. So yeah, I love Zootopia for many reasons, but primarily the world-building (that movie is so ripe for sequels and franchise works) and the message of the story.
Update to those who see this art:James Gunn is already done with Vol:3 of GOTR as in matter of fact that the Film is still alive and was developed under his guidelines and was suddenly resumed and finished After he done with DC's Suicide squad (the Film that leads him to DCU)....and later he is now leaving Marvel After Three Films of Guardians of the Galaxy....and go to DC due to a star Search lead by that Darn David Zaslav,and a advice by MCU's Kevin Feige and John Cena,also,Although we may see that James has deleted his old tweet that leads to controversial insult,but,we Will never forget how he fuck out and redeem for a reason we little knew If we Watch Movie too much,but I'm glad he is now fine,i guess he might be a fool afterall,a fool that Hire a psychologist to advice him to delete his disgusting old tweet and start anew by himself....i dunno Why,i guess i just a one of the dummy in a big pile of confusing After all,James Gunn,could you explain better about what happen to ya?
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