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Respecting the identity of others is so much fun!
It makes people happy, and lets people learn about things they didn't know about!
A gender is something personal, and everyone is allowed to express it in their own unique way.
I mean, it doesn't hurt anyone, and respecting genders only makes people who have genders other than the ones you know makes them happy.
And if we can have happy people and no one hurt, I think it's easy to know what to do!
It makes people happy, and lets people learn about things they didn't know about!
A gender is something personal, and everyone is allowed to express it in their own unique way.
I mean, it doesn't hurt anyone, and respecting genders only makes people who have genders other than the ones you know makes them happy.
And if we can have happy people and no one hurt, I think it's easy to know what to do!
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Yes can agree with that point. My phrasing seemed to be bad.
Was more talking about the extremely young. The ones who don't need to know about this kind of stuff. It doesn't need to be forced on them from my perspective.
However, yes indeed, if anyone is willing to listen and learn and consider alternate concepts that is useful and important.
Was more talking about the extremely young. The ones who don't need to know about this kind of stuff. It doesn't need to be forced on them from my perspective.
However, yes indeed, if anyone is willing to listen and learn and consider alternate concepts that is useful and important.
Oh, well, in my opinion, either don't teach the kids about gender, or tell them about all of it :P
The main problem with teaching is that kids ARE taught about "boy" and "girl" from birth, but they're VERY rarely told there is more.
I believe that the right age to talk about it would be when the kids start school. This is generally the age they'll start seeing more children, start making friends, develop social interests. And simply being told that there are people who look like boys but are not, and people who look like girls but are not, and that the way anyone looks doesn't mean anything. Have children know that it's ok, and normal. Children are much brighter than we think, they catch up on that kinda stuff really easily, and don't actually get confused. And if they do, it's all a matter of answering "yep, really!" when they ask "Really?". (funny fact while on this subject, my friend's daughter thought it was weirder that her uncle had named his dog "potato" than it was to use the right pronouns for me)
Many trans people start wondering about their own identity as soon as they start having a social life, and many of us wish we had simply known that it was possible to not be a boy or a girl when you've been told you were, and that it was possible to be a boy or a girl or even other things than boy or girl, even if you'd been told you're not.
No need to get deep into it, or to talk about the sexual aspect of things.
Sorry for dropping all of this on you, but you seem pretty open to seing the sides of this argument :P
And I could go on and on and on but I really should be working right now!
The main problem with teaching is that kids ARE taught about "boy" and "girl" from birth, but they're VERY rarely told there is more.
I believe that the right age to talk about it would be when the kids start school. This is generally the age they'll start seeing more children, start making friends, develop social interests. And simply being told that there are people who look like boys but are not, and people who look like girls but are not, and that the way anyone looks doesn't mean anything. Have children know that it's ok, and normal. Children are much brighter than we think, they catch up on that kinda stuff really easily, and don't actually get confused. And if they do, it's all a matter of answering "yep, really!" when they ask "Really?". (funny fact while on this subject, my friend's daughter thought it was weirder that her uncle had named his dog "potato" than it was to use the right pronouns for me)
Many trans people start wondering about their own identity as soon as they start having a social life, and many of us wish we had simply known that it was possible to not be a boy or a girl when you've been told you were, and that it was possible to be a boy or a girl or even other things than boy or girl, even if you'd been told you're not.
No need to get deep into it, or to talk about the sexual aspect of things.
Sorry for dropping all of this on you, but you seem pretty open to seing the sides of this argument :P
And I could go on and on and on but I really should be working right now!
Telling kids about all of it would take a very long time. Unless you simplify, I guess.
Hypothetically something like this: Gender is usually attached to chromosomes and how you genetically are, your biological sex. For the vast majority of individuals gender is a binary. There are some outliers, they are rare but they happen. There are numerous genetic and mental conditions that may result in someone straying from the binary, and that is fine. Please don't bully others if they are a little strange. You are a really small group here, and the world has billions of people, you will probably encounter many different people in your lifetime, it is better to be accepting than to be hostile to something that you haven't seen or experienced before.
Putting more onto young children, especially at the age that you suggested of when they start school would be very very difficult to understand and even more difficult to teach, without heading into the 'propaganda' or 'brainwashing' areas. When it comes to understanding the complexities of genetics and gender, that might have to come much later, and include stats of how rare such things are. However from the young age, it should be taught that bulling is wrong and should not be done. That would be the more important aspect, personally.
Please don't be sorry for dropping all of this on me! I am pretty open to a lot of things. I tend to collect information and ask hard questions and see what kind of responses there are. Talking with differing views and opinions is important to better develop a more balanced view of the world as a whole. : 3
Hypothetically something like this: Gender is usually attached to chromosomes and how you genetically are, your biological sex. For the vast majority of individuals gender is a binary. There are some outliers, they are rare but they happen. There are numerous genetic and mental conditions that may result in someone straying from the binary, and that is fine. Please don't bully others if they are a little strange. You are a really small group here, and the world has billions of people, you will probably encounter many different people in your lifetime, it is better to be accepting than to be hostile to something that you haven't seen or experienced before.
Putting more onto young children, especially at the age that you suggested of when they start school would be very very difficult to understand and even more difficult to teach, without heading into the 'propaganda' or 'brainwashing' areas. When it comes to understanding the complexities of genetics and gender, that might have to come much later, and include stats of how rare such things are. However from the young age, it should be taught that bulling is wrong and should not be done. That would be the more important aspect, personally.
Please don't be sorry for dropping all of this on me! I am pretty open to a lot of things. I tend to collect information and ask hard questions and see what kind of responses there are. Talking with differing views and opinions is important to better develop a more balanced view of the world as a whole. : 3
Kids are already told that bullying is wrong, though.
And really, the gender thing doesn't even have to be that complicated!
A simple: "people's gender isn't always what it seems, and there are all kind of people! You can use "they" if you're not sure!" would be enough. At that age, they don't have to know why things happen, just that the thing exists. Unless they ask about it. And if it's too complicated for them to understand yet, or for you to explain, it's ok to say that. But if the child REALLY wants to know, there are online resources made exactly for that!
But believe me, yound children are all about learning new things. They want to know about everything.
They want to know how rainbows work.
Or why water boils.
Or why they blink.
They will nit get distressed or confused like people say they will, because they're at a point in their life when learning is the easiest. They're like sponges for knowledge.
And really, the gender thing doesn't even have to be that complicated!
A simple: "people's gender isn't always what it seems, and there are all kind of people! You can use "they" if you're not sure!" would be enough. At that age, they don't have to know why things happen, just that the thing exists. Unless they ask about it. And if it's too complicated for them to understand yet, or for you to explain, it's ok to say that. But if the child REALLY wants to know, there are online resources made exactly for that!
But believe me, yound children are all about learning new things. They want to know about everything.
They want to know how rainbows work.
Or why water boils.
Or why they blink.
They will nit get distressed or confused like people say they will, because they're at a point in their life when learning is the easiest. They're like sponges for knowledge.
It all comes down to realising that kids won't be scared or confused by it, but they are still children. Of course, there is the life at home which COULD make it confusing if the parents themselves are intolerant of trans and/or nb people, but that's an entire other aspect of the whole thing.
But yeah. As far as teaching to young children, force feeding information is never good. They need to be in a situation where learning comes from interest, and not of fear of being told they are bad if they don't know something. And as it currently is, many children feel broken and wrong from being taught things that don't apply to them as a person, because they're not aware of other possibilities than being a "wrong boy" or a "wrong girl" seeing as they never were taught about anything else.
But yeah. As far as teaching to young children, force feeding information is never good. They need to be in a situation where learning comes from interest, and not of fear of being told they are bad if they don't know something. And as it currently is, many children feel broken and wrong from being taught things that don't apply to them as a person, because they're not aware of other possibilities than being a "wrong boy" or a "wrong girl" seeing as they never were taught about anything else.
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