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GENDER AND SEXUALITY IN THE FURRY FANDOM (survey!)
You might remember a while ago there was a survey to see what species peoples characters were (results of that here)
That was me! And I'm back with another survey!
So because I'm curious and apparently like to punish myself with manually entering data, I've decided to make a survey to look at the genders and sexualities in the furry fandom!
It is 100% anonymous!
You can submit a response to the survey here
And you can check out the results here
Please note the results are manually entered and it may take up to 24 hours for new results to be entered. please only submit 1 response!
comments on this post wont be added to the results, only responses for the form will be entered.
If you wanna share the survey on twitter you can RT this tweet
That was me! And I'm back with another survey!
So because I'm curious and apparently like to punish myself with manually entering data, I've decided to make a survey to look at the genders and sexualities in the furry fandom!
It is 100% anonymous!
You can submit a response to the survey here
And you can check out the results here
Please note the results are manually entered and it may take up to 24 hours for new results to be entered. please only submit 1 response!
comments on this post wont be added to the results, only responses for the form will be entered.
If you wanna share the survey on twitter you can RT this tweet
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Heyo! Just a little comment on this because I'm having trouble, even as a transgender person who is more up-to-date on identities as your average Joe... Is they any chance you can add definitions next to each type of gender and sexuality for those that are unfamiliar with the terms but still understand the concepts? I usually default to bisexuality but that's more me not having memorized all the other terms than anything.
I submitted. On another note. As someone here who is gay but remains more traditional in original orientations, why do more gender id's keep being made up? Does anyone feel its more for attention or its really a thing or perhaps someone popular came up with it and everyone made a big deal and auto adopted it into the community?
Im not calling anyone out here nor am I picking on anyone. I myself am just curious to what other peoples actual thoughts are (not influenced by friends because of worry that their status will drop).
Im not calling anyone out here nor am I picking on anyone. I myself am just curious to what other peoples actual thoughts are (not influenced by friends because of worry that their status will drop).
Gender is based on how someone sees themself in their mind, some of the terms may have overlaps with others and be a case someone preferring to use one term over another for various reasons eg people choosing an umbrella term like Non-Binary (as in not identifying as wholly male or female) or Queer or deciding to be more specific.
The invention and increase in use of the internet may make it seem like a lot have popped up recently, and in some cases the internet has helped to create new words that people like to use to identify themselves. But it's mostly a case of information on different pre-existing gender identities being more freely shared between different cultures and peoples across the world. New names might pop up for some things that already have names in other cultures as an attempt to not encroach upon their culture as some gender terms are specifically related to roles in specific cultures.
There are a LOT of genders that have actually existed for hundreds or thousands of years but have been mostly erased or ignored as westernization spread across the world, some are still common and accepted in some cultures. Many cultures have historically recognised that gender is on a spectrum and the shape of a newborns genitals generally has nothing to do with who they are as a person. This is an interesting article that lists some of the genders seen on other cultures: http://listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-.....ghout-history/
Quoting from that article:
"In today’s world, the word “genderqueer” has become a form of identity for many people who feel frustrated by a gender binary system. This expression was created in the 1990s as an umbrella term for anyone who felt that they fell outside of strict “male” or “female” categories. The genderqueer movement grew tremendously because of the Internet, and today, many people prefer to identify as “genderqueer” rather than “male,” “female,” “transgender,” or something else."
Biological sex is based on a babies genitals appearance at birth and assigned by doctors. Though even people who go by this generally ignore the fact that Intersex people exist.
While there are some cases of people (usually younger teens in my admittedly limited experience) who say they're another gender because they thin kit's cool or trendy, it's not really anyone elses place to question it because honestly no one knows you better than you, and if you feel a word expresses who you are more accurately than societies defaults, then that's for you to decide.
I guess it's kind of a hard concept to understand for many people who have never questioned themselves like that or needed to, since they've never felt anything different and readily accept whatever's stamped on their birth certificate.
The invention and increase in use of the internet may make it seem like a lot have popped up recently, and in some cases the internet has helped to create new words that people like to use to identify themselves. But it's mostly a case of information on different pre-existing gender identities being more freely shared between different cultures and peoples across the world. New names might pop up for some things that already have names in other cultures as an attempt to not encroach upon their culture as some gender terms are specifically related to roles in specific cultures.
There are a LOT of genders that have actually existed for hundreds or thousands of years but have been mostly erased or ignored as westernization spread across the world, some are still common and accepted in some cultures. Many cultures have historically recognised that gender is on a spectrum and the shape of a newborns genitals generally has nothing to do with who they are as a person. This is an interesting article that lists some of the genders seen on other cultures: http://listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-.....ghout-history/
Quoting from that article:
"In today’s world, the word “genderqueer” has become a form of identity for many people who feel frustrated by a gender binary system. This expression was created in the 1990s as an umbrella term for anyone who felt that they fell outside of strict “male” or “female” categories. The genderqueer movement grew tremendously because of the Internet, and today, many people prefer to identify as “genderqueer” rather than “male,” “female,” “transgender,” or something else."
Biological sex is based on a babies genitals appearance at birth and assigned by doctors. Though even people who go by this generally ignore the fact that Intersex people exist.
While there are some cases of people (usually younger teens in my admittedly limited experience) who say they're another gender because they thin kit's cool or trendy, it's not really anyone elses place to question it because honestly no one knows you better than you, and if you feel a word expresses who you are more accurately than societies defaults, then that's for you to decide.
I guess it's kind of a hard concept to understand for many people who have never questioned themselves like that or needed to, since they've never felt anything different and readily accept whatever's stamped on their birth certificate.
I probably cant say anything overly negative against these sorts of things since the LGBT+ movement values inclusion, but I think a lot of these labels are overdone and unnescessary. Like one example, Based on actual scientific knowledge of sex and how we feel of gender, there are only two sexes, anything in between isnt a whole new sex/gender just a gray area between male/female with mixed characteristics which could leave someone being genderfluid/queer or agender, but nothing like polygender. (three plus genders isnt a thing, nor a brand new gender). Nor is "androgynous" a gender but mainly a description of someone who's physical appearance can be read as either male or female, people who take it on as a gender are deviating from it's original meaning.
A more accurate and less sparkly gender polling system would probably be Male, Female, Genderfluid/queer, Agender, (Transgender, maybe. Though a lot of trans people are either male or female), and Other
I'll keep it like that since I honestly dont intend to start a wild argument on gender or anything. I guess there are people out there who want to value the inclusivity and specialness of people's emotional states of being rather than the physical identity of being, so its probably best to let people be, but I wanted to throw my understanding of the gender movement in case people wanted to read.
A more accurate and less sparkly gender polling system would probably be Male, Female, Genderfluid/queer, Agender, (Transgender, maybe. Though a lot of trans people are either male or female), and Other
I'll keep it like that since I honestly dont intend to start a wild argument on gender or anything. I guess there are people out there who want to value the inclusivity and specialness of people's emotional states of being rather than the physical identity of being, so its probably best to let people be, but I wanted to throw my understanding of the gender movement in case people wanted to read.
biological sex and gender identity are not the same thing. Gender doesn't really have anything to do with physical appearance and someone's outward gender expression (eg how they present themselves) can be yet different again. The human mind is insanely complex and even science doesn't completely understand it. Gender may be determined by various things and is not always linked to a person's physical appearance, though for many it can be.
This is a poll to record how people view THEMSELVES and that varies widely from person to person. As i said in an earlier comment, some terms may be used for the same thing but are chosen based on a person's individual preference of they they with to describe themselves for various reasons.
Also between male and female there actually IS a third sex, it's intersex (historically called hermaphrodism but that term has been considered offensive and outdated by intersex people and by science for many years) this is a term that is used for people who do not have the typical genital arrangement of male or female. There are also multiple conditions were someone may not have strictly XX or XY chromosomes. Some of these chromosomal differences may result in an outward difference in primary and secondary sexual characteristics but not always.
Basically even science tells us that biological sex isn't as clear cut as 100% male 100% female and suggesting it is that simple is inaccurate and overly simplistic.
life doesn't always fit into a few neat little boxes that were invented by humanity to understand things better.
This is a poll to record how people view THEMSELVES and that varies widely from person to person. As i said in an earlier comment, some terms may be used for the same thing but are chosen based on a person's individual preference of they they with to describe themselves for various reasons.
Also between male and female there actually IS a third sex, it's intersex (historically called hermaphrodism but that term has been considered offensive and outdated by intersex people and by science for many years) this is a term that is used for people who do not have the typical genital arrangement of male or female. There are also multiple conditions were someone may not have strictly XX or XY chromosomes. Some of these chromosomal differences may result in an outward difference in primary and secondary sexual characteristics but not always.
Basically even science tells us that biological sex isn't as clear cut as 100% male 100% female and suggesting it is that simple is inaccurate and overly simplistic.
life doesn't always fit into a few neat little boxes that were invented by humanity to understand things better.
Gender is the sex which a person experiences which may be different from their physical self assigned at birth. (It is not an emotion, a badge, or a label)This does indeed have to do with physical abnormalities in growth and development whether it's neurological, chromosomal, or physical (secondary sex traits or primary sex traits). When it comes to human identification of self or others, the signs and tells we have are based on distinct traits that are typical for the majority of species of that sex. This is why when people look at someone theyre subconsciously looking for biological aspects that mark humans of either sex (although some contain traits of both and are ambiguous to pinpoint). Vice versa, a transgender person, who has traits of the other sex which they were not born with, typically seek to transition by completing the process of physically transitioning going as far as the individual may typically need.Gender isn't just an idea based on gender roles or the word "boy" or "girl", if there was no sense of physical dysphoria or social dysphoria (Again, not based on gender roles but based on internal identity traits), then it would just be a word and carry no meaning<br>
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Regarding "third gender" which is a canonical term in India and existing in various forms in other countries, it isn't literally a third (or fourth or fifth) gender, but a catch-all term for gender variant people, as in people who haved mixed traits that dont fall under typical physical traits of a sex. Intersex people are part of an "other" category, they are the gray area between male and female. There are various combinations of traits which make up intersexuality or a person's gender experience, each combination of such isn't a brand new gender. Even among intersex individuals a lot of them still identify as male or female based on the dominant traits they feel. <br>
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The thing about the LGBT community and the modern gender movement is it started by opening people up to fight against discrimination, but as the popularity of the community went on the rise it becomes part of a fashion statement to not just be cis/straight. The thing about gender and sex is it is NOT a way to be different and describe yourself, it is just what you are, and isn't any more special than someone who is cisgender heterosexual. Nobody chooses what they are. The bandwagon effect causes a rise in people to take upon labels and expressions which may or may not apply to themselves for the sake of being open and descriptive of who they are and fitting into a community. <br>
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As an example, For most transgender people, being transgender is not a source of pride or happiness. It's a source of pain. A source of pain that stems from the discrimination, the hate (from self and others), the dysphoria (the crushing physical and social dysphoria of being confused and sad in a body and neurological role that doesnt make sense), the overwhelming despair that there are aspects of yourself that you cannot be 100% male or 100% female. Being transgender is NOT happy. It is NOT proud. So where does the pride come from with these people? It comes from people who learn to accept the fate they were given, it comes from those who have the strength of character to push on and control what they can in life, and it comes from those who learn that they can be happy in a world where it is confusing to be born in a state of disparity.<br>The "neat little boxes" you're referring to aren't random and escalating labels for people to invent to BE different for the sake of different; they are trans* people, agender people, and genderfluid people that are all part of a complex combination of what is based on physical traits (always, always, always physical in some sense), in the way that modern people are struggling to understand a minority that is and always has existed breaking out of the boxes people place on us means breaking out of the little known fact that males and females and all things in between do not come in all the same form and we are allowed to be different and embrace what makes us different from the majority rather than live in shame.<br>
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I know I'm sounding very inflammatory and argumentative about people's gender expressions so where am I going at this point? I'm not necessarily meaning to put down others for gender expression, and I'm not saying who out there is the "true" transgender person. What I'm saying is a lot of people who are openly accepting are suffering from misinformation based on a rapidly expanding base. This misinformation causes a lot of dissaray in terminology and understanding of what sex and gender is based on actual facts, not just emotional states and reasoning. My main idea I think is there needs to be that information for young people out there. Many young people are struggling to understand themselves, whether its gender roles or dysphoria or loneliness or lack of confidence. In the end, I'm not one that can tell anyone who or what they are, that's a decision that they should be 100% honest to themselves to discover.<br>
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I dont know how many people are going to read this entire thing and agree with me, or read this entire thing and go "Oh! I didnt know that! I understand now!", or so "I totally disagree and this is a very negative view that I believe is wrong of this person", etc.<br>
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The one thing you did say that invalidates everything I have to say is it's a survey based on other people's perception of their OWN gender, whatever the case may be. It was a silly post to make sure but I wanted to throw it out there for people to read and maybe think about.<br>
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(I'm sorry for mucking up your thread, again. If you disagree with anything I have to say feel free to correct me and I'll just end it here).
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Regarding "third gender" which is a canonical term in India and existing in various forms in other countries, it isn't literally a third (or fourth or fifth) gender, but a catch-all term for gender variant people, as in people who haved mixed traits that dont fall under typical physical traits of a sex. Intersex people are part of an "other" category, they are the gray area between male and female. There are various combinations of traits which make up intersexuality or a person's gender experience, each combination of such isn't a brand new gender. Even among intersex individuals a lot of them still identify as male or female based on the dominant traits they feel. <br>
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The thing about the LGBT community and the modern gender movement is it started by opening people up to fight against discrimination, but as the popularity of the community went on the rise it becomes part of a fashion statement to not just be cis/straight. The thing about gender and sex is it is NOT a way to be different and describe yourself, it is just what you are, and isn't any more special than someone who is cisgender heterosexual. Nobody chooses what they are. The bandwagon effect causes a rise in people to take upon labels and expressions which may or may not apply to themselves for the sake of being open and descriptive of who they are and fitting into a community. <br>
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As an example, For most transgender people, being transgender is not a source of pride or happiness. It's a source of pain. A source of pain that stems from the discrimination, the hate (from self and others), the dysphoria (the crushing physical and social dysphoria of being confused and sad in a body and neurological role that doesnt make sense), the overwhelming despair that there are aspects of yourself that you cannot be 100% male or 100% female. Being transgender is NOT happy. It is NOT proud. So where does the pride come from with these people? It comes from people who learn to accept the fate they were given, it comes from those who have the strength of character to push on and control what they can in life, and it comes from those who learn that they can be happy in a world where it is confusing to be born in a state of disparity.<br>The "neat little boxes" you're referring to aren't random and escalating labels for people to invent to BE different for the sake of different; they are trans* people, agender people, and genderfluid people that are all part of a complex combination of what is based on physical traits (always, always, always physical in some sense), in the way that modern people are struggling to understand a minority that is and always has existed breaking out of the boxes people place on us means breaking out of the little known fact that males and females and all things in between do not come in all the same form and we are allowed to be different and embrace what makes us different from the majority rather than live in shame.<br>
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I know I'm sounding very inflammatory and argumentative about people's gender expressions so where am I going at this point? I'm not necessarily meaning to put down others for gender expression, and I'm not saying who out there is the "true" transgender person. What I'm saying is a lot of people who are openly accepting are suffering from misinformation based on a rapidly expanding base. This misinformation causes a lot of dissaray in terminology and understanding of what sex and gender is based on actual facts, not just emotional states and reasoning. My main idea I think is there needs to be that information for young people out there. Many young people are struggling to understand themselves, whether its gender roles or dysphoria or loneliness or lack of confidence. In the end, I'm not one that can tell anyone who or what they are, that's a decision that they should be 100% honest to themselves to discover.<br>
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I dont know how many people are going to read this entire thing and agree with me, or read this entire thing and go "Oh! I didnt know that! I understand now!", or so "I totally disagree and this is a very negative view that I believe is wrong of this person", etc.<br>
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The one thing you did say that invalidates everything I have to say is it's a survey based on other people's perception of their OWN gender, whatever the case may be. It was a silly post to make sure but I wanted to throw it out there for people to read and maybe think about.<br>
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(I'm sorry for mucking up your thread, again. If you disagree with anything I have to say feel free to correct me and I'll just end it here).
>< Ich...FA messed up my response so here's a clean version, http://m.imgur.com/a/YVmo7
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