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I can't take Antifa furs seriously because all they do is harass people on twitter that aren't even actually Nazis and they play the victim card when people call them out on their bull shit.
They advocate and employ violence against anyone that disagrees with them, labeling them as Nazis. The irony is they employ the same fear tactics and anti freedom of speech ideology that fascists do throughout history.
Then they justify violence because they compare drawings and twitter posts to what the Nazis did in world war 2. What a fucking joke.
They advocate and employ violence against anyone that disagrees with them, labeling them as Nazis. The irony is they employ the same fear tactics and anti freedom of speech ideology that fascists do throughout history.
Then they justify violence because they compare drawings and twitter posts to what the Nazis did in world war 2. What a fucking joke.
I'm gonna leave it at this:
Alt-right are advocating the exact same ideologies the nazis did, and there are still people who align as nazis today, the neo-nazi movement is strong even where I am from.
Where you see us "employing violence" you fail to see how the antifa movement is anti-fascist; the definition for fascist is someone who supports the regime of fascism, and fascism is defined as "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization." Currently, our right-wing government is xenophobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic, racist, and classist and is working to further institutionalize harmful policies which translate into more violent social atmospheres for marginalized people both nationally and globally. When you identify as antifa, you are pledging to go against harmful, and narrow minded regimes that are/have been present in American society the day we first began to colonize this land. So to recap this; right wing government: regressing on minority rights and are being supported by people who identify themselves as fascists, or people who see themselves as right wing and are simply just going along with whatever their elected leaders are telling them. Antifa: fighting against this rising, regressive, and exclusionary regime.
If this means we must use force to protect ourselves then so be it. In my hometown, 60 so odd alt-right/neo-nazis gathered at the capitol, abut 200 or so antifa and radical leftists gathered to counter protest. Of the ten people who were stabbed, they were all antifa members.
Now, to the second point on freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, as written into the bill of rights states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Notice, this says "Congress", the first amendment protects you from the Government, not the People. You can say and believe whatever you want sure, but you are in no way shape or form legally protected from the consequences or reparations of another. When neo-nazis/Alt-right attempt to hold rallies or panels, they can be counter acted upon. When you try and use the argument to "protect someones free speech" in ordinary discussion or in a gathering of people, not only are you just blatantly misinterpreting the bill of rights, you're also (more importantly) trying to defend words that illicit hate, violence, white-supremacy, xenophobia, racism, and a plethora of other biases. Allowing that to happen is a moral shortcoming on all those who defend it.
Now, I only recently got a twitter, yes a furry twitter, but I don't do politics there. Some people do, no matter what ideology you have I don't think you should be limiting your self to a place that only allows you 140-some-odd-characters. Of course people are going to cut facts, be blunt or be seemingly confrontational with such limited modes of expression. Widen your scope. Now see, you say "antifa-furs", but you may not actually realize, that my friend and I call ourselves just antifa, this isn't about the fandom, this is about people. Not two days ago for May Day I was linking hands with anfia members, radical-leftists, POC, trans youth, and immigrant rights activists, actually PHYSICALLY participating in a campus wide blockade and march through the streets, rallying behind worker, immigrant, and refugee rights. Blocking traffic may be an inconvenience sure, but it's not violent, and looking at the greater picture here, isn't it more violent to drop bombs on Syria to "help them" but then turn them away from our "borders"? Blocking traffic for maybe like 4 minutes of someones commute is peanuts, okay. BUT, Violence is the 7 people I personally witnessed who screamed at us and then shortly after tried to run us over with their cars/motorcycles. I literally had to help 7 of our fellow protesters stop a man on a motorcycle from trying to mow us over (thank god he was only on some tiny dual sport), he proceeded to get off his bike, shove one person, then grab another by the neck and hold his fist up as if he was about to punch them. Meanwhile, we just said "shame on you" got him to release our friend, and opened a path for him to get the fuck away from us. But nah, this dude wanted to sit there and continue arguing and be confrontational, so we just left him, THEN HE TRIED TO RAM US AGAIN and at this point for our safety we just ushered him through to get him from out behind us. Our message that day was peaceful, and to not illicit confrontation, but nonetheless confrontation found us, so we deescalated the situations.
In the long run, have some questionable and down right wrong things happened on both sides? Sure. But I would rather be on the side that calls for freedom and inclusiveness to all rather than the genocide, silencing, and binding of all those that don't fit the norm of American society, aka, white, cisgender, heteronormative, and androcentric.
Maybe next time, don't look at this as a fandom thing and look a little further from twitter. And before you call me or my friend a joke, i'd like to see you on the frontlines of some protests, involved in some movements, and receiving gospel from some other places than the internet, and not just sit there crying out into cyberspace as a right wing troll that doesn't know entirely what they're really supporting because they can exist in society comfortably without changing anything from behind a movement (cus ur a white dude).
Alt-right are advocating the exact same ideologies the nazis did, and there are still people who align as nazis today, the neo-nazi movement is strong even where I am from.
Where you see us "employing violence" you fail to see how the antifa movement is anti-fascist; the definition for fascist is someone who supports the regime of fascism, and fascism is defined as "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization." Currently, our right-wing government is xenophobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic, racist, and classist and is working to further institutionalize harmful policies which translate into more violent social atmospheres for marginalized people both nationally and globally. When you identify as antifa, you are pledging to go against harmful, and narrow minded regimes that are/have been present in American society the day we first began to colonize this land. So to recap this; right wing government: regressing on minority rights and are being supported by people who identify themselves as fascists, or people who see themselves as right wing and are simply just going along with whatever their elected leaders are telling them. Antifa: fighting against this rising, regressive, and exclusionary regime.
If this means we must use force to protect ourselves then so be it. In my hometown, 60 so odd alt-right/neo-nazis gathered at the capitol, abut 200 or so antifa and radical leftists gathered to counter protest. Of the ten people who were stabbed, they were all antifa members.
Now, to the second point on freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, as written into the bill of rights states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Notice, this says "Congress", the first amendment protects you from the Government, not the People. You can say and believe whatever you want sure, but you are in no way shape or form legally protected from the consequences or reparations of another. When neo-nazis/Alt-right attempt to hold rallies or panels, they can be counter acted upon. When you try and use the argument to "protect someones free speech" in ordinary discussion or in a gathering of people, not only are you just blatantly misinterpreting the bill of rights, you're also (more importantly) trying to defend words that illicit hate, violence, white-supremacy, xenophobia, racism, and a plethora of other biases. Allowing that to happen is a moral shortcoming on all those who defend it.
Now, I only recently got a twitter, yes a furry twitter, but I don't do politics there. Some people do, no matter what ideology you have I don't think you should be limiting your self to a place that only allows you 140-some-odd-characters. Of course people are going to cut facts, be blunt or be seemingly confrontational with such limited modes of expression. Widen your scope. Now see, you say "antifa-furs", but you may not actually realize, that my friend and I call ourselves just antifa, this isn't about the fandom, this is about people. Not two days ago for May Day I was linking hands with anfia members, radical-leftists, POC, trans youth, and immigrant rights activists, actually PHYSICALLY participating in a campus wide blockade and march through the streets, rallying behind worker, immigrant, and refugee rights. Blocking traffic may be an inconvenience sure, but it's not violent, and looking at the greater picture here, isn't it more violent to drop bombs on Syria to "help them" but then turn them away from our "borders"? Blocking traffic for maybe like 4 minutes of someones commute is peanuts, okay. BUT, Violence is the 7 people I personally witnessed who screamed at us and then shortly after tried to run us over with their cars/motorcycles. I literally had to help 7 of our fellow protesters stop a man on a motorcycle from trying to mow us over (thank god he was only on some tiny dual sport), he proceeded to get off his bike, shove one person, then grab another by the neck and hold his fist up as if he was about to punch them. Meanwhile, we just said "shame on you" got him to release our friend, and opened a path for him to get the fuck away from us. But nah, this dude wanted to sit there and continue arguing and be confrontational, so we just left him, THEN HE TRIED TO RAM US AGAIN and at this point for our safety we just ushered him through to get him from out behind us. Our message that day was peaceful, and to not illicit confrontation, but nonetheless confrontation found us, so we deescalated the situations.
In the long run, have some questionable and down right wrong things happened on both sides? Sure. But I would rather be on the side that calls for freedom and inclusiveness to all rather than the genocide, silencing, and binding of all those that don't fit the norm of American society, aka, white, cisgender, heteronormative, and androcentric.
Maybe next time, don't look at this as a fandom thing and look a little further from twitter. And before you call me or my friend a joke, i'd like to see you on the frontlines of some protests, involved in some movements, and receiving gospel from some other places than the internet, and not just sit there crying out into cyberspace as a right wing troll that doesn't know entirely what they're really supporting because they can exist in society comfortably without changing anything from behind a movement (cus ur a white dude).
I cringed the moment you mentioned alt right, so gut wrench in the first sentence, bravo. Any way, you side with domestic terrorists that use fear tactics, there's no justice in that. Why does fascism have to be right wing? If you look at it objectively, fascists try to shut down dissenting opinion, they attack freedoms like freedom of speech, they use fear tactics, these seem to be all the things the regressive left and antifa do. Sure there are neo nazi's, but you guys consider everyone that's not on your side alt-right fascists, with no fucking proof, you just can't seem to fathom you could be wrong so you look at things through your ideological lense and you see everything in a way that suits your narrative and you people seem to think you have to have a boogie man to chase. I rarely see antifa furs especially going after actual fascists or actual skin heads, if you saw some skin head who probably just got out of prison with ss tattooed under his ear, you'd probably shit your pants.
Antifa is guilty of attacking people and vandalizing public property that had NOTHING to do with their stupid agenda, really noble of you. Also shouldn't we be setting a higher standard for human behavior instead of resulting to domestic terrorism and the same tactics actual fascists used? You know what I find a moral short coming, you saying it's okay to answer gatherings with violence, you and your movement was grossly hypocritical it's nauseating. As long as what a person is saying isn't direct slander, and they're not harming any one physically or their property, it falls under free speech. Sure there are personal consequences, but you combat bad ideas with better ideas, not acts of violence and use of fear tactics and force, that's the solution of a FASCIST. You don't have to condone what someone is saying to defend their right to say it, I personally, for example, hate the west borough baptist church. BUT, as long as they're not directly interfering with gatherings, causing any sort of harm outside of someones feelings, I defend their right to say it. You honestly think that trying to force people to stay quiet will alleviate hate? It will just EMBOLDEN people who are truly hateful, and make people who were neutral on the subject, fucking hate minority groups for trying to curtail their rights when they weren't even involved, or you know, bash their face in for being falsely accused of being a nazi, which antifa and the regressive left do all the damn time.
Widen my scope? I'd recommend you do that, you people are very misinformed and your movement is contingent on your own lies to survive. Your rhetoric is blind and misguided, and pretty much a cult movement that uses violence with a false veil of "justice". Cisgender, heteromnormative? That's fucking biology, it's how we even exist, because your ancestors wanted to fuck in a heterosexual setting. There's nothing wrong with LGBT, I'm bi myself, but I'm so tired of people trying to put negative labeling on it, I'm tired of people saying, if you're white and male, you're fucking hitler by default, it's fucking stupid and I hate it.
I don't just look at it as a fandom thing, it's a problem with our country, I'm not even right wing, I consider myself a moderate skeptic, and I don't side with anything other than logic, objectivity, science and the human race as a whole regardless of who they are, how they identify, or w/e. You call me right wing, yet I spout liberal ideals for freedom of speech, or at least freedom used to be the agenda of liberals, but lately they love putting quotation marks over the phrase, or even say to my face freedom of speech is silly.
Wow, so, you're basically admitting you're not only a sexist, but also a fucking racist, you're trying to discredit me on part because of my gender and race, that's pretty fucked up. Now what? You're gonna tell me you can't be racist to white people? You can't be sexist to a man? What the actual fuck?
I really don't care you were there and they let you brain wash you, you can still look at something from an outside perspective looking in, do a bit of research, and apply logic to it. Besides why would I want to ally myself with domestic terrorists that hate me by default because I have a penis and white skin? They would probably try to attack me the moment I'd say, I don't agree with you guys, and I believe you're curtailing the rights of others that aren't involved with actual fascists.
Antifa is guilty of attacking people and vandalizing public property that had NOTHING to do with their stupid agenda, really noble of you. Also shouldn't we be setting a higher standard for human behavior instead of resulting to domestic terrorism and the same tactics actual fascists used? You know what I find a moral short coming, you saying it's okay to answer gatherings with violence, you and your movement was grossly hypocritical it's nauseating. As long as what a person is saying isn't direct slander, and they're not harming any one physically or their property, it falls under free speech. Sure there are personal consequences, but you combat bad ideas with better ideas, not acts of violence and use of fear tactics and force, that's the solution of a FASCIST. You don't have to condone what someone is saying to defend their right to say it, I personally, for example, hate the west borough baptist church. BUT, as long as they're not directly interfering with gatherings, causing any sort of harm outside of someones feelings, I defend their right to say it. You honestly think that trying to force people to stay quiet will alleviate hate? It will just EMBOLDEN people who are truly hateful, and make people who were neutral on the subject, fucking hate minority groups for trying to curtail their rights when they weren't even involved, or you know, bash their face in for being falsely accused of being a nazi, which antifa and the regressive left do all the damn time.
Widen my scope? I'd recommend you do that, you people are very misinformed and your movement is contingent on your own lies to survive. Your rhetoric is blind and misguided, and pretty much a cult movement that uses violence with a false veil of "justice". Cisgender, heteromnormative? That's fucking biology, it's how we even exist, because your ancestors wanted to fuck in a heterosexual setting. There's nothing wrong with LGBT, I'm bi myself, but I'm so tired of people trying to put negative labeling on it, I'm tired of people saying, if you're white and male, you're fucking hitler by default, it's fucking stupid and I hate it.
I don't just look at it as a fandom thing, it's a problem with our country, I'm not even right wing, I consider myself a moderate skeptic, and I don't side with anything other than logic, objectivity, science and the human race as a whole regardless of who they are, how they identify, or w/e. You call me right wing, yet I spout liberal ideals for freedom of speech, or at least freedom used to be the agenda of liberals, but lately they love putting quotation marks over the phrase, or even say to my face freedom of speech is silly.
Wow, so, you're basically admitting you're not only a sexist, but also a fucking racist, you're trying to discredit me on part because of my gender and race, that's pretty fucked up. Now what? You're gonna tell me you can't be racist to white people? You can't be sexist to a man? What the actual fuck?
I really don't care you were there and they let you brain wash you, you can still look at something from an outside perspective looking in, do a bit of research, and apply logic to it. Besides why would I want to ally myself with domestic terrorists that hate me by default because I have a penis and white skin? They would probably try to attack me the moment I'd say, I don't agree with you guys, and I believe you're curtailing the rights of others that aren't involved with actual fascists.
omg okay it's really nice that you have all this time to photo shop stuff onto mine and other's art, I ain't even mad, this is more just a waste of my time like trying to argue with some 32 yr old man. I'm not going to engage with you if you're going to shit on minorities from literally the most powerful position in our society (those who look like a majority of our CEOs and political leaders), because literally all of my friends are minorities and if I'm friends with cis white dudes they stand in solidarity with antifa ideology and my friends.
I'm not going to apologize for hurting your sensitive feelings as a white guy, and that's great you're bi, but here u are spoutin' off "Biology", doesn't sound like you aren't fully caught up with LGBTQAI+ rights bruh bruh, ur sounding a lot like Milo out there. And if you're afraid of a little damaged property and alt-right/neo-nazis getting punched in the face, then you should see what slavery was like, what jim crow was like, what the average day is like for a minority living in a hostile climate, what conversion therapy is like, what domestic abuse is like, what the ever present fear of rape and attack is like, you just don't understand because in this society that institutionalized and socially backed oppression that faces minorities isn't present for white folk and cis men. So yeah I'm going to tell you you can't be racist to white folk; you can be biased, but not racist. Racism is a systemic oppression, white people were never enslaved in mass because of their heritage or skin color, and it was never law that white people were second class anywhere (and don't bring up the Irish they were never enslaved). Now b e i n g s e x i s t towards men, i don't even know where to start here, like did you understand what I meant by androcentric?? that means the contentedness and rewarding nature of our society for "masculinity" and that's something very rampant in the LGBTQAI+ community. Men make and meet the standard in almost every corner of society and their opinions are treated in higher regards, trans men say that once they begin passing as cis men in society that they notice a lot more respect than they had ever received when they were perceived as any other gender.
So lmao call me a domestic terrorist if you want, I think marching and believing in the destruction of harmful oppression and anarchy ain't shit to actual domestic terrorists like the Charleston shooter, the KKK, or white-pride folk. Smashed windows and black eyes and parades and cons shut down over the fight to protect minorities instead of killing them or discriminating against them is peanuts. Freedom of speech aint shit if it's being used to mobilize hate against minorities. I poke fun at white cis dude day and fucking night, but do I wish harm on them? no. Do I wish that they would stop supporting and inflicting violence upon marginalized communities? yes. You're going to call yourself a nazi and advocate for the systematic killing of all those that don't fit your aryan model? A punch in the face is itsy-bitsy for what they want to do to minorities. Honestly I'm not all for some of the really big shit that sometimes goes down at antifa events, but I think our hearts and morals are in the right place rather than letting systematic violence exist under an aryan dominated government and capitalism.
"If you identify as a white, cisgender, heteroxesual male, I'd like to thank you for being out here today, that shows a lot of solidarity." That's what was said in our march. When I say "cis white dudes" i'm talking about people like you and worse who gaslight minority issues and are reeling in their desktop chairs because they're seeing bias against them for the first time in their lives. If you're willing to check your privilege and help your fellow humans that have been marginalized you are damn welcome in the movement. You're just problematic as hell dude, you have a lot of shit to unlearn. Maybe both of us are brain washed but i ain't gonna be a dick to minorities to let the oppressors off the hook, cus they've gotten away with far to fucking much.
I'm not going to apologize for hurting your sensitive feelings as a white guy, and that's great you're bi, but here u are spoutin' off "Biology", doesn't sound like you aren't fully caught up with LGBTQAI+ rights bruh bruh, ur sounding a lot like Milo out there. And if you're afraid of a little damaged property and alt-right/neo-nazis getting punched in the face, then you should see what slavery was like, what jim crow was like, what the average day is like for a minority living in a hostile climate, what conversion therapy is like, what domestic abuse is like, what the ever present fear of rape and attack is like, you just don't understand because in this society that institutionalized and socially backed oppression that faces minorities isn't present for white folk and cis men. So yeah I'm going to tell you you can't be racist to white folk; you can be biased, but not racist. Racism is a systemic oppression, white people were never enslaved in mass because of their heritage or skin color, and it was never law that white people were second class anywhere (and don't bring up the Irish they were never enslaved). Now b e i n g s e x i s t towards men, i don't even know where to start here, like did you understand what I meant by androcentric?? that means the contentedness and rewarding nature of our society for "masculinity" and that's something very rampant in the LGBTQAI+ community. Men make and meet the standard in almost every corner of society and their opinions are treated in higher regards, trans men say that once they begin passing as cis men in society that they notice a lot more respect than they had ever received when they were perceived as any other gender.
So lmao call me a domestic terrorist if you want, I think marching and believing in the destruction of harmful oppression and anarchy ain't shit to actual domestic terrorists like the Charleston shooter, the KKK, or white-pride folk. Smashed windows and black eyes and parades and cons shut down over the fight to protect minorities instead of killing them or discriminating against them is peanuts. Freedom of speech aint shit if it's being used to mobilize hate against minorities. I poke fun at white cis dude day and fucking night, but do I wish harm on them? no. Do I wish that they would stop supporting and inflicting violence upon marginalized communities? yes. You're going to call yourself a nazi and advocate for the systematic killing of all those that don't fit your aryan model? A punch in the face is itsy-bitsy for what they want to do to minorities. Honestly I'm not all for some of the really big shit that sometimes goes down at antifa events, but I think our hearts and morals are in the right place rather than letting systematic violence exist under an aryan dominated government and capitalism.
"If you identify as a white, cisgender, heteroxesual male, I'd like to thank you for being out here today, that shows a lot of solidarity." That's what was said in our march. When I say "cis white dudes" i'm talking about people like you and worse who gaslight minority issues and are reeling in their desktop chairs because they're seeing bias against them for the first time in their lives. If you're willing to check your privilege and help your fellow humans that have been marginalized you are damn welcome in the movement. You're just problematic as hell dude, you have a lot of shit to unlearn. Maybe both of us are brain washed but i ain't gonna be a dick to minorities to let the oppressors off the hook, cus they've gotten away with far to fucking much.
If it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook.
He wears a hat
he's tall and black
but that's how they describe him in his book.
A rumbling sound, than three sharp knocks
you better run, or he'll hold you in his locks.
ba-ba-ba-dook-dook-dook...
Your closet opens
and your honestly hopin'
that he won't hear a sound
but that's when you know that he's around.
The book close
you have an itch under your nose
and that's just how the story goes.
So close your eyes and count to ten
better hope you don't wake up again.
'Cause if it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook
.... you'll see him if you look
you can't get rid of the Babadook.
He wears a hat
he's tall and black
but that's how they describe him in his book.
A rumbling sound, than three sharp knocks
you better run, or he'll hold you in his locks.
ba-ba-ba-dook-dook-dook...
Your closet opens
and your honestly hopin'
that he won't hear a sound
but that's when you know that he's around.
The book close
you have an itch under your nose
and that's just how the story goes.
So close your eyes and count to ten
better hope you don't wake up again.
'Cause if it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook
.... you'll see him if you look
If it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook.
He wears a hat
he's tall and black
but that's how they describe him in his book.
A rumbling sound, than three sharp knocks
you better run, or he'll hold you in his locks.
ba-ba-ba-dook-dook-dook...
Your closet opens
and your honestly hopin'
that he won't hear a sound
but that's when you know that he's around.
The book close
you have an itch under your nose
and that's just how the story goes.
So close your eyes and count to ten
better hope you don't wake up again.
'Cause if it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook
.... you'll see him if you look
you can't get rid of the Babadook.
He wears a hat
he's tall and black
but that's how they describe him in his book.
A rumbling sound, than three sharp knocks
you better run, or he'll hold you in his locks.
ba-ba-ba-dook-dook-dook...
Your closet opens
and your honestly hopin'
that he won't hear a sound
but that's when you know that he's around.
The book close
you have an itch under your nose
and that's just how the story goes.
So close your eyes and count to ten
better hope you don't wake up again.
'Cause if it's in a word, or if it's in a book
you can't get rid of the Babadook
.... you'll see him if you look
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