OOOOHHH SI!!! X3

Those are some cool pages. :3

love this!

Voodoo!!!

Nothing can beat the belly

I cant Belly it!
Haa.

Man how is that big guy even able to walk outside without a harem of hot ladies (or guys, I'm not discriminating) laying all over that majestic belly?

look forward to it :)

You brought up three characters, but I only see two. I don't see Rando.

Rando is in this comic but once again he main focus are these two.

Reagan, I like you, and you draw pictures like you really like fellow fatfurs... but you write comics like you hate them. I've always felt somewhat depressed reading your comics since I always feel sad when I see the little guys beating up the big guys all the time, always wanting to see someone do things the opposite way of seeing the big guy prevail over the smaller fat guys. I've looked for a while, and it looks like I have to take that matter into my own hands, which I do with Earthquake Warriors and My Life as a Really Fat Hero. I've seen a lot of your comics, and so rarely are the big fat guys goodguys. Even when they are, they're still often used in an antagonist role like Jensu and Yama were. It would be cool to see Rando in some real action against some evil skinnies, but if he's just a sideline viewer, and once again a skinny hero is going to beat up a big, fat villain, then I don't know if this is the comic for me. I'd rather see Rando getting the action.

I'll admit, there's a somewhat satisfying feeling from seeing the big fat guy have a lot of stuff thrown at him, and some people do think it's satisfying to beat up a big opponent, but I always felt just as much satisfaction, if not more, when the big guys are the goodguys and they get beat up a lot and power through it.

''always wanting to see someone do things the opposite way of seeing the big guy prevail over the smaller fat guys'' Basically what most furries do with in this fandom and in this comic Rando just beat the crap out of a skinny muscular boss and his hechmen.

And yeah in part I'm agreed with you that why I have some as good guy that join the party Jensu and Yama where never antagonist or evil they just got in a tournament and I got valid reason of why they LOST, Rando in the other hand is not even a super hero this comic is not even canon it is just some silly I decide to do, he is simply a boxer an athlete that Joel look up to.

You are just expecting too much from me because I can't handle all the whole stropes by myself I don't think is fair, so that why I do it by little but enough to see the difference because there's no point in jump from a box just to get into another box like this fandom often do, you run away from cliches but you create your own cliches, instead of simply break the mold a bit.

Critic that if you want but I think you are projecting your justice on me too much and loosing the point of what writting stories it's really about.

I'm my defence again I just like belly punch the rest is just a coincidence but don't go and tell me that I'm not doing the diference with adding actualy anthros who are importan characters fat or not which is not what the media do or very very rarely do.

*Sigh* You're right, it's your comic. I feel kind of bad bringing up my emotions towards your comics. I actually DON'T want to come off as rude or demanding, and I'm wondering if there aren't other people who feel the same way, they just want to be the better person than I and move on without responding.

Can I say one thing though: You commented that most fatfur lovers draw the big fat guy prevailing over the smaller guy, but no one else makes actual visual stories with fatfurs fighting smaller guys, and mostly just draw one-shots. You're one of the only people I know who actually writes comics involving fatfurs.

"You are just expecting too much from me because I can't handle all the whole stropes by myself I don't think is fair, so that why I do it by little but enough to see the difference because there's no point in jump from a box just to get into another box like this fandom often do, you run away from cliches but you create your own cliches, instead of simply break the mold a bit."

I'm not sure I get this post, but I think by that you mean that I try to differentiate myself from a cliche and create my own cliche. I'll admit, there's truth to it, but you kind of fell into your own cliche, but all in all: is that bad? Sometimes people use "cliche" like its a bad thing, yet often times a "cliche" is a classic, to-the-point idea that one person never gets sick of. Boxing kangaroos, fat moles with glasses, giant dragons: lots of ideas that have been done to death, and yet I still love them every time I see them. ...I do have one story where the main villains are fat, though it's a nutrition-based story. Billy the Beef is kind of based on the grim reality of being fat, while MLAARFH and Earthquake Warriors are based off of the fantasy aspects of it that I like.

In other words I don't take thing so personal, Bigger characters help to see things more challenging a big guy taking on a litte guy don't give the same effect, it feel like a god taking on a mortal, it's about the challege the travel, no who is the stronger.

And to be honest I do have a fat character who is not introduced as a antagonist in my comic Dragon Trigger but he is not overly exagerated as Jensu or Rando in size but there he is, he is serious he is a main character and not a glutton joke who actually help.

Actually, that's not 100% true. The bigger guy isn't always seen as a god. Often times the bigger guy is very slow, and that is often seen as such a huge drawback that it often makes the character come off as useless despite his strength. In addition the big guy's often dumber than the smaller guy. A smaller, faster guy can often run laps around the bigger guy, being incredibly hard to hit. Even lacking the strength the bigger guy has, the smaller guy is usually considered to be the one with the advantage. Yeah, the big fat guys are hard to hurt in their bellies, but that's why the smaller guy wouldn't attack his belly. Often times he'd aim for the head or (even better depending on the thickness) the leg, using the heavier guy's own weight against him. In one of the stories I wrote about MLAARFH (which was a Pokemon fanfic called Mightyfats at the time I wrote it) the villains, who were a team of fast, speedy yet skinny without much muscle to their anatomy type characters, were able to kick butt against the bigger heroes due to their speed, with the bigger and slower guys having a really hard time fighting them until they had to use some actual strategy in order to beat them instead of all-out brute force.

Long story short, I wouldn't call the bigger guy a god or stronger or harder to beat, just that he has some good strength backed by lots of body armor, but at the same time has plenty of drawbacks that would work against him including sluggishness and weight. In my opinion, I don't think either creature would be truly more godlike than the other, just that they'd have different sizes and abilities. Now, if we were talking about a small guy verses, say, a fat Godzilla like creature, then that would be a different story. Not saying your wrong for what you said, just stating a different viewpoint on the matter.


By the way, I do like your drawings. I hope you don't think of me as a bad person. Still, do what you want, it's your art.

I think you missed the point of what im trying to explain...so nevermind...

No, I did get it. I was just making a counter-argument, but I understood your point.

This.

Honestly, you're making me out to be more venomous and spiteful than I'm trying to be. I'm not trying to command him or be rude, and he's perfectly fine to do what he wants, I'm just making a suggestion that I think it would be cool to see him switch the roles around at least once, and that I kind of feel bad reading his comics. Another problem I have is that I want to say something, but I'm not sure how to say it as politely as possible. "I will take this into my own hands," isn't something I meant in a spiteful tone, just that I meant that sometimes if I want something that no one else wants it the same way I do, so they won't make it, then maybe the only person who can make what I want is myself.

It's kind of a like/dislike situation I have with him: I love his artwork and seeing all these huge guys, but then I read his comics and the big guys are usually villains, while every once in a while there WILL be an exception and the big guys will be goodguys, usually they're minor protagonists who fight for a limited time and, often times, still get their butts kicked, which from what I'm getting fits Rando in this comic, while basically "One-Punch-Man" gets most of the action and fights, once again, the big-fat villain. It's not that I dislike Reagan, it's just that his comics elicit an emotion in me that is sad and I want to bring it up, but I try to be as respectful as possible. I'm not trying to change him, but I still kind of want him to know how I feel. Is that wrong? I'm not trying to be mean.

He also mentioned that the big guys beating up the smaller guys is what other fatfur lovers do, but none of them make comics or write stories: just a bunch of one-shots of them squashing their opponent, and while I'm a fatfur fan, I'm just not into that. Reagan is one of the only people who actually makes comics with big, giant fatfurs in them that I can find.

Also, you're talking about coming off as rude, and then use comments like "Your projected self righteousness" as well as "It comes off as rude, attention grabby, and whiny like a child who did not get something his way" not to mention " "They did not make it especially just for me." I'm all for being respectful, but I hate it when people think the other person needs to be respectful, but they can be a jerk all they want. I'm not saying that's you, but using comments like that usually elicits retaliation as opposed to understanding.

Again, I'm not condemning him, I was just saying that it makes me feel sad to see Reagan do the same thing with his stories in having the big fat guys always being villains. He's fine to do what he wants, and just because I'm telling him how I feel doesn't mean I'm trying to change him. I mean, okay, maybe a little bit. In truth, it WOULD be nice to see a big goodguy fatfur beat up smaller villains instead of the other way around, but as I said: I'm only trying to make a suggestion. I'm not actually trying to force him to do it. If he doesn't do it, then that's his decision. It doesn't mean his comics are bad, it just means they're not for me.

...But seriously, Reagan has some great artwork and I do love looking at his drawings. I hope he keeps his style up, as I really do like it.

I understand that I shouldn't have said what I did. However...

"The point of larger characters in stories is symbolism for the Protagonist. A literal hurdle for them to overcome. They don't just effortlessly beat them, it is a struggle. To have the role reversed is sorta pointless due to "Well, it just boils down to a big guy destroying a small guy." That isn't really symbolism for the reader or viewer. By removing that form of symbolism, you just remove a struggle."

Pardon my argument, but I do beg to differ on this topic. Yes, seeing a big, strong, relatively fit character being the antagonist to a smaller character does have its own symbolism, but one that's fat usually just comes off as a slow target since fatness is considered an undesirable body type (rightfully so. I like fat characters, but they're still fantasy characters). People generally don't see a fat character as powerful, just a character who's out of shape and generally useless athletically. One point I made above is that, yeah, the big fat guy is massive and often very strong, but he's also very, VERY slow. In addition, he often times is effortlessly defeated merely by being toppled over. Meanwhile, the smaller guy is super fast, and while not incredibly strong is often at the very least strong enough to dropkick the bigger guy to bring him down like London Bridges.

Reversing the role actually has somewhat of a different effect of that of a person trying to fight a virus-carrying mosquito or a venomous spider. It may be much smaller than you, but it doesn't mean it can't easily kill you, and often times it's easier for it to kill you than for you to kill it, as it's faster than you and needs only to hit you once. Take a few of my characters. In the story revolving around my character Richter the Hedgepossum, there's an antagonist team made of sleek, skinny creatures known as the Range Rangers who are fast, smart and resourceful. Often times Richter and his friends have a very hard time landing a hit on these pesky characters, and most of the time it takes more than one hit for them to actually put-out a Range Ranger, but the Range Rangers have an easier time dealing with them. They may be big, but their size, speed and weight all work against them when fighting the Range Rangers. Their only real strength is that their main weakness is their head and (depending on the version) their legs, where the Range Rangers are vulnerable anywhere, so using their belly to block attacks till they can find an opening is what they often have to resort to. Again, an example of the man and the fly.

Let me make another point: In a lot of Monster Collecting games and fighting games, with very few exceptions is the bigger characters usually considered low tier due to being both big and slow, while the smaller character who usually can't deal damage to save its life is often considered high-tier due to speed. This could also be another argument made for the bigger characters in that speed is often considered the be-all-end-all of attributes, and big guys are RARELY fast.

The point I'm trying to make is that if you pit a large fat guy against a skinny but relatively fit acrobat, the big guy is actually going to come off as the underdog given his poor athleticism. If he was Godzilla and still fat and lethargic, then it's be a different story, but still. I do see the point both you and Reagan are trying to make, but I also think there's a counter-argument to be made.

...But overall, you are right that I shouldn't be projecting my feelings as profusely as I have. The stories still make me feel sad, but again they're not for me. I still really like his art, though.

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The whole Belly Armor aspect, while there's a bit of truth to it, is exaggerated most of the time. In addition, the main reason they'd have to use their bellies to block is because other areas, like again their legs, are vulnerable, and the smaller guy generally wouldn't be dumb enough to strike where he's NOT vulnerable. Also, being pushed back by the bigger guy's belly isn't going to do much but prolong the fight, since not only would the smaller guy be less effected by being toppled over, but he would likely have a much easier time getting up as well.

Not much the smaller guy can do in a fight? ...Hahahaha, yeah good one. In most cases, speed is all they need to prevail. That's why, again, characters who are absolutely AWFUL at everything else besides speed (Sheik from Smash Brothers, Yun from Ultra Street Fighter 4, Omega Partokolos from Soul Calibur 5, all characters with really low power but high speed) are usually considered the best character in the game. It's also not effortless for the big guy to win, either, as even THEY would have to use strategy. The bigger guy's also not always going to be strong enough to take out the smaller guy in one shot. Bass is one, very RARE exception.

You're acting like your point is completely factual and subjective, but it really isn't. Your argument relies around a warped idea that the bigger guy is ALWAYS going to be more capable than the smaller guy, which I'm sorry but I disagree with. The whole argument you're making is an opinion, and so is mine.

It also doesn't change the fact that some people, like me, still don't like seeing the fat-guy getting beaten up all the time for a multitude of reasons. And if we WERE to use your argument, what if tubby actually WASN'T the biggest guy in the arena? What if the athletic guy is, in fact, taller? For example, Hunter, the leader of the Range Rangers, is taller than Richter. Another member, Sun the Giraffasaur, is taller than any of the members of Team Meteor except the boss who only accompanies them for a few missions. Not only could your argument be seen from a reversed point of view, but as well so could the situation.