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![[NO] Lucy Handpaws & Tail by FuzzWorks](http://d.furaffinity.net/art/fursuitreview/1481359216/1481359216.fursuitreview_fuzzworksbundle.jpg "Click to change the View")
FURSUIT REVIEW FORMYour Username
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/anukacat/
Item Being Reviewed
Character name, type of commission, etc. This will be used to help title the submission on FursuitReview
Lucy Fursuit Tail and Handpaws
Name of Maker and Links
https://www.facebook.com/FuzzWorks-.....18016/?fref=ts
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/blixfox
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/darbydeer
Are you reviewing a friend?
No
Do you have any prior experience with fursuits?
I've worn a Fullsuit of someone else once
I've also started making my first Fursuit shortly
after comissioning these parts.
I have worn my partial multiple times before
recieving their parts. I also have upgraded
my partial to a fullbody now.
Character Concept Art
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/15754935/
Photos of Completed Product
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20555671/
http://sta.sh/0ikx2064ni5
Date Commissioned or Bought
Paid on 16th Nov 2015
Date Completed or Shipped
Tail was completed 17th May 2016
Paws were completed in August 2016
It was shipped on 9th August 2016
Price Paid
$125 with shipping
Date of Review
8th December 2016
Do you currently still own the item(s) you're reviewing?
Yes
Price Sold For
If you have sold the sitem(s) since this review, how much did you sell for?
Did the maker meet your deadline?
Didn't have any deadline.
But in the progress they told me they'd get it done
this month (April) which didn't happen. I've then
told them i'd like it to be ready for Eurofurence
which happened (The package arrived at the starting
day of EF, without my mother i wouldn't have been
able to get it).
Did you tell the maker about any issues you had?
I've told them multiple times, that i'm a bit
annoyed, that they wouldn't respond to me. I've
also told them, when i didn't like how they cut out
the fur for my tail (they did not show me a pattern,
the picture of the cut out fur was the first i got)
which they fixed.
How many hours have you worn/used the item(s) you're reviewing?
Give your best estimate.
40
HANDS AND FEET
The following questions ask you to explain how satisfied you are with each feature of the hands and feet of the costume.Wear Satisfaction
Please describe how it is to wear these pieces of your costume.
The paws are comfortable to wear, even though they
are not lined inside (i don't really care about
lining). I can put them on easily and they are long
enough, so no skin shows when wearing them with
clothes. I can move my hands easily. The paws are
a bit too big though, if i don't tuck them under
my clothes they will slide off when hanging my arms
down. Even though i sent hand measurements.
The seam of one paw pad was already popped when i
recieced them, 2 more popped after Eurofurence.
The seams are a very basic stitch, that doesn't seem
to be enough with fake leather. I could pull off
the pads easily if i wanted to.
http://sta.sh/0v8if0rxfh6
http://sta.sh/0q8pqoy1iwh
Appearance Satisfaction
Please describe how satisfied you are with how your costume pieces look from the outside.
The markings and colors match the character design,
the shape looks good and symmetrical.
I like that they shaved the fingers and let the rest
of the fur long, the transition looks fine. The
shaving on the fingers is kinda messy, especially
at the edges of the seams (fur was also sewn in
the seams).
http://sta.sh/01gw55usqi7o
They completely forgot my claws. The reason they
told me was not enough time.
I also feel like the fur on the fingers could've
been shorter but that's just preference.
The fur has good quality and looks/feels very nice.
One thing i've noticed, is that the paw pads fold
when i move my hand because they are so big and
not stuffed. Doesn't look too great.
TAILS
The following questions ask you to explain how satisfied you are with each feature of the tail(s) of the costume.Wear Satisfaction
Please describe how it is to wear these pieces of your costume.
The tail is easy to put on. I really like how light
the tail is, that's good for wearing. It's flexible,
which i sepcifically asked for.
However, it's a bit twisted, which leads to it
constantly tangling between my legs (it's a miracle,
i haven't tripped over it yet).
The seams don't seem to be very durable either, the
straps popped off nearly completely after EF. The
seams in the fur also had 3 holes after the con.
The makers put a hard round plate into the base
of the tail, they never told me which material it is.
Appearance Satisfaction
Please describe how satisfied you are with how your costume pieces look from the outside.
It is not symmetrical, as it is twisted.
http://sta.sh/0gidc14vuvk
The transitions between the fur scraps do not always
match together completely, creating unwanted sharp
edges.
Colors are the ones i requested, fur quality is
great and the markings match the character design.
OVERALL VISUAL SATISFACTION
The following questions ask how satisfied you are with the overall visual aspects associated with the costume.How satisfied are you with how closely the suit matches the concept art?
If there was no concept art, please state N/A
Very satisfied. Colors and markings match concept art.
How satisfied are you with how well everything fits together and matches up?
Do you markings match up at the seams? Are the colors consistent?
The markings don't always match up at the seams.
Colors are consistent.
MAKER INTERACTION AND COMMISSION PROCESS
The following questions ask how satisfied you are with all the aspects of communication between you and the maker.How satisfied are you with how easy it was to initially contact the maker for a quote?
Initial contact was great. Fast responses with very
detailled information.
How satisfied are you with the response time from the maker?
How long did it take them to respond?
In the beginning they were very fast with responses
but after i paid contact froze (as there wasn't
anything to talk about of course). I started asking
for progress updates and they were becoming slower
and slower with responses while time passes. They
wouldn't respond at all for days or even weeks.
After the tail was done i didn't get any answers
for a whole month, despite of asking a couple times.
They then told me facebook wasn't the place, where
their conversations were held (even though i've
talked to them over it all the time and they never
mentioned it was a problem.). We then switched to
emails, where i was ignored too.
How satisfied are you with how the deadline was met for completion of your project?
Were any deadlines missed or was it done early?
As there was no deadline, i can't judge.
But it was a bit disappointing that they took so
long and weren't even able to finish the product
(claws) or offer good quality.
How satisfied are you with the overall quality of your project?
Not satisfied at all. The durability is awful. I'm lucky that i know how to sew and build suits myself,
otherwise i would've needed other people to help me repair all the flaws.
I can't however fix the paw pads because i would
have to open the seams of the fur to be able to
reach the backing to sew them back on but it
wouldn't be worth the effort.
How satisfied are you with the overall customer service and professionalism of the maker?
Not satisfied at all.
I constantly felt ignored by them not answering me.
The sudden change to another message method also
felt really fishy to me.
They asked me if it was ok for me if they'd send
my products to another customer in my country who
would give me my things at Eurofurence to be able to spend more money into a faster shipping method, which is a big NO GO!
They respected it and even spend more money for
the shipping out of their own pockets, so it would
arrive in time for Eurofurence, which was nice
though!
They also never showed me the paws before shipping,
they sent me a picture when the package was already on it's way, which is also unnaccaptable!
They told me they'd send me claws so i could attach them later. At this point i was really angry.
I've asked them one time if they would ship the
claws but never got a response or the claws.
Then i just gave up and used my own paws.
Describe your experience. What were the pros and cons of working with this maker? And any final comments?
Pros:
They use good quality products and are very easy
to contact (only in the beginning). Their overall
style looks pretty nice.
Cons.
Bad durability and overall flaws in the product
itself. It all just felt kinda rushed.
Sudden drop of communication after payment.
I just feel like it wasn't worth what i payed for
and yes, suits can be damaged after wearing them
but i don't expect it to come with already popped
seams and i also don't expect it to fall apart
after a couple wears. The makers have potential,
their style looks great. But they definetly need
to work on customer service and organizing their
time, so they don't have to rush and throw out a
mediocre product, that could've easily been better.
FINAL SCORE
FursuitReview scores by having you answer the following question: Would you recommend this maker to another?
Pick one of the scores below that you feel honestly reflects your commissioning experience as a whole, including the quality of your item(s), the appearance, and how you were treated by the maker.
[NO]
If they don't change what i stated above.
[YES] Positive = The reviewer would recommend this maker to another
[OK] Neutral = The reviewer may or may not recommend this maker, depending on certain circumstances (reviewer clarifies what these are)
[NO] Negative = The reviewer would not recommend this maker to another, unless the maker significantly changes their practices
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"You get what you pay for" is not an excuse for bad craftsmanship or lack of professionalism. A reviewer is writing about their experience, and what they may think is acceptable for the price they paid may not be the same as what you believe is acceptable. That is okay.
There are many ways to phrase "you get what you pay for" without belittling a reviewer or fursuit, and this is not one of them.
There is no reason someone should deliver a product that falls apart within hours of receiving it. No matter the price. That is not what anyone pays for.
There are many ways to phrase "you get what you pay for" without belittling a reviewer or fursuit, and this is not one of them.
There is no reason someone should deliver a product that falls apart within hours of receiving it. No matter the price. That is not what anyone pays for.
I'm not saying it's an excuse. There's no excuse for bad quality. You either work really hard to improve or you just don't do it. It's that simple. Fursuit work takes a hell of a lot of practice and everyone thinks their a pro when they start, but it's not an easy task and it takes a lot of practice before you can start to sell. I've been doing it for 6 years and I've finally reached a quality I can be happy with. Albeit, there is a few things I'm still working on, but it really isn't as easy as some people make it look. /rambling
Anyways, people should really save for a quality suit or pieces. No one can do quality at this price. I myself am having a hard time finding business due to this kind of thing and it's really hard to raise my prices to a point where it doesn't look like this type of quality because that business is going to these people and people are ditching the idea of buying a suit and making their own. I really hope people think more about the time and effort that goes into this before starting a business like this.
Anyways, people should really save for a quality suit or pieces. No one can do quality at this price. I myself am having a hard time finding business due to this kind of thing and it's really hard to raise my prices to a point where it doesn't look like this type of quality because that business is going to these people and people are ditching the idea of buying a suit and making their own. I really hope people think more about the time and effort that goes into this before starting a business like this.
The point is that saying "you get what you pay for" or similar discourages people from leaving reviews for these types of items because it comes across as blaming the victim. We should not be judging the reviewers (unless they are lying, which if you have proof of, email us at contact[at]fursuitreview.com and we will remove the review). We should encourage people to leave reviews, no matter the price or type of item.
When someone purchases an item, it is expected that the item does not fall apart, no matter what price they paid. The fact that it does fall apart is worthy of a negative review. This is helpful to everyone involved because, as you say, it shows others the quality that is typical in a certain price range.
The price is provided to be useful when combined with other reviews (e.g. at http://price.fursuitreview.com ) so people thinking of buying a fursuit know what to expect. The price is not given for us to make judgements on the reviewer. And if those types of comments continue to happen, people will be hesitant or outright refuse to leave reviews for fear of those judgements.
This is what I am trying to get across.
"You get what you pay for" comments and similar ilk really should not be said on comments for reviews.
When someone purchases an item, it is expected that the item does not fall apart, no matter what price they paid. The fact that it does fall apart is worthy of a negative review. This is helpful to everyone involved because, as you say, it shows others the quality that is typical in a certain price range.
The price is provided to be useful when combined with other reviews (e.g. at http://price.fursuitreview.com ) so people thinking of buying a fursuit know what to expect. The price is not given for us to make judgements on the reviewer. And if those types of comments continue to happen, people will be hesitant or outright refuse to leave reviews for fear of those judgements.
This is what I am trying to get across.
"You get what you pay for" comments and similar ilk really should not be said on comments for reviews.
You saying I've been bashing people with high prices? I've been telling people why their prices are high and why it's that high for good reason. I don't bash for others having higher prices. You've never bought a suit from me and you don't know my quality. Plus, this year has been a huge jump in quality. Only reason my prices are still low is because I know there's still some small issues that I need to work out and I need business before I feel confident enough to push prices up.
Unfortunately even if you color-match the pad, there's no way to machine sew them without leaving visible seams.
In order to hide the seams, especially with this type of fabric (fleece will often bend a bit and hide them with it's fluff, vinyl won't do that) you have to do a stitch that basically folds the edge under, which isn't possible with a machine. Hand-sewing all the pawpads would greatly extend the time the suits take to make, and potentially sacrifice durability.
That being said, the pads shouldn't be falling apart like that. They clearly didn't use a strong enough stitch.
In order to hide the seams, especially with this type of fabric (fleece will often bend a bit and hide them with it's fluff, vinyl won't do that) you have to do a stitch that basically folds the edge under, which isn't possible with a machine. Hand-sewing all the pawpads would greatly extend the time the suits take to make, and potentially sacrifice durability.
That being said, the pads shouldn't be falling apart like that. They clearly didn't use a strong enough stitch.
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