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Well that's wrong. You're not alone on that opinion, but it's flat out wrong.
People tend to spend more money on porn because it's more of a niche thing. Totally understandable, too. You want sex-shit drawn for you? You gotta pay more money to make up for the creepyness-factor! You do that - everyone's happy!
Porn is less than 13,1% of the content here on FA and it only gets about 18% of the klicks.
People tend to spend more money on porn because it's more of a niche thing. Totally understandable, too. You want sex-shit drawn for you? You gotta pay more money to make up for the creepyness-factor! You do that - everyone's happy!
Porn is less than 13,1% of the content here on FA and it only gets about 18% of the klicks.
https://www.sofurry.com/view/918031
This is from 2015, but it's the most up to date figures.
I was reciting them from memory, so I got a few percent off. After looking it up again, It's actually a bit lower, even.
It's actually less than 13.2% porn and less than 16.1% of the clicks. (And remember: people tend to "revisit" their porn, so I'd guess it's even less, when the question is "How many people within the Fandom actively look at porn."
The question then is "Why does it SEEM to us, that there's so much porn?"
1. Because we talk ourselves into it. Because this dumb "Furries are pervs"-meme is growing strong within the Fandom so we start to believe it ourselves. Fuck that, I say. ;)
2. Because after a Furaffinity session people tend to remember the scarring shit more than the innocent nice cartoon-fox. In retrospect it will always SEEM as if you've seen more weird shit than normal shit. But just browse furaffinity and compare - how much porn is there versus how much non-porn is there? - and you will see that we're far more tame than the friggin anime-people for example. ;)
This is from 2015, but it's the most up to date figures.
I was reciting them from memory, so I got a few percent off. After looking it up again, It's actually a bit lower, even.
It's actually less than 13.2% porn and less than 16.1% of the clicks. (And remember: people tend to "revisit" their porn, so I'd guess it's even less, when the question is "How many people within the Fandom actively look at porn."
The question then is "Why does it SEEM to us, that there's so much porn?"
1. Because we talk ourselves into it. Because this dumb "Furries are pervs"-meme is growing strong within the Fandom so we start to believe it ourselves. Fuck that, I say. ;)
2. Because after a Furaffinity session people tend to remember the scarring shit more than the innocent nice cartoon-fox. In retrospect it will always SEEM as if you've seen more weird shit than normal shit. But just browse furaffinity and compare - how much porn is there versus how much non-porn is there? - and you will see that we're far more tame than the friggin anime-people for example. ;)
I'll be damned! Thanks for showing me that. Now I don't feel so out of it that anymore I seldom want to commission adult themed pictures. Nearly all that I commission anymore are either general or mature for some nudity.
Another reason that it can seem like there is more porn than in actuality could be a persons choice of people to watch. My tastes and attitudes towards hard core furry porn have changed over the years, yet I still watch most of the same people who do that hard core stuff, so I see more than I enjoy. I think perhaps I need to do some judicious weeding of my watch list and maybe a search for more artists who only do general or mature pictures.
Another reason that it can seem like there is more porn than in actuality could be a persons choice of people to watch. My tastes and attitudes towards hard core furry porn have changed over the years, yet I still watch most of the same people who do that hard core stuff, so I see more than I enjoy. I think perhaps I need to do some judicious weeding of my watch list and maybe a search for more artists who only do general or mature pictures.
That'd be awesome. :)
But there's nothing wrong in watching lots of adult art. People who do that just need to stop pretending that their interests are all that matters on this site. If you want to compare the amount of cute animal pictures versus the sex-stuff: the cute cartoon stuff "wins" - by a lot!
But there's nothing wrong in watching lots of adult art. People who do that just need to stop pretending that their interests are all that matters on this site. If you want to compare the amount of cute animal pictures versus the sex-stuff: the cute cartoon stuff "wins" - by a lot!
Yes! I look at the front page. quite regularly in fact (FA is my Internet-home) and if you COMPARE (!) the amount of porn vs the amount of SFW cartoony animal pictures - 10% matches up.
If you're REAAAAALLLY stretching the definition of "porn" (you include artistic nudity, every macro picture, every fat fur picture etc) you'll end up with AT MOST 20%
I do this exercise sometimes and it really helps keep things in perspective.
Just because the scarring shit jumps out more doesn't change the AMOUNT of the scarring shit.
If you're REAAAAALLLY stretching the definition of "porn" (you include artistic nudity, every macro picture, every fat fur picture etc) you'll end up with AT MOST 20%
I do this exercise sometimes and it really helps keep things in perspective.
Just because the scarring shit jumps out more doesn't change the AMOUNT of the scarring shit.
Let's ditch "scarring". Let's go with "crass" or "eye catching". Are you denying that the porn is crasser than the non-porn?
Just browse, Dude! Just friggin browse. 90% isn't even CLOSE to accurate. It's around 20% (every fifth pic) if you are as generous as you can be when defining "porn"
Just browse, Dude! Just friggin browse. 90% isn't even CLOSE to accurate. It's around 20% (every fifth pic) if you are as generous as you can be when defining "porn"
All I heard was "Wake up sheeple!" (Joke, I'm sorry. ;) ) But please realize that you aren't arguing against me (only) you're arguing with the data
My definition of what consitutes porn is way more nuanced than that. Everything that's obscene can clearly be identified as porn. Obscenity takes many forms but the factor that holds the concept of obscenity together is that it was made to turn people on.
That doesn't have to mean "butts and nipps, penises and vaginas". There's QUITE a lot artistic (non pornographic, not obscene) nudity that would nevertheless sadly have to be categorised under NSFW. Michelangelos David is a prime example of that. It's nude. There's a penis. He's made to look attractive, but to call Michelangelos David Porn would be stretching the concept.
By the by:
My 20% guess thing actually got reinforced by a reddit user named ramblingmutt:
https://www.reddit.com/r/furry/comm....._data_for_you/
SOME Furries want to get off (as well) It's neither the ONLY thing they care about within the Fandom, nor is it even the main thing (for most people - according to the friggin data ) And some people just don't care about the porn at all (like me - unless it's artistically beautiful)
I don't want to be a mindreader - please don't think that of me. :)
But am I right in speculating that you kinda want to protect the "Furries are pervs"-joke from becoming unfunny? It's a thing I've always wondered about when meeting people who kinda... WANT to believe that this is all about the porn.
My definition of what consitutes porn is way more nuanced than that. Everything that's obscene can clearly be identified as porn. Obscenity takes many forms but the factor that holds the concept of obscenity together is that it was made to turn people on.
That doesn't have to mean "butts and nipps, penises and vaginas". There's QUITE a lot artistic (non pornographic, not obscene) nudity that would nevertheless sadly have to be categorised under NSFW. Michelangelos David is a prime example of that. It's nude. There's a penis. He's made to look attractive, but to call Michelangelos David Porn would be stretching the concept.
By the by:
My 20% guess thing actually got reinforced by a reddit user named ramblingmutt:
https://www.reddit.com/r/furry/comm....._data_for_you/
SOME Furries want to get off (as well) It's neither the ONLY thing they care about within the Fandom, nor is it even the main thing (for most people - according to the friggin data ) And some people just don't care about the porn at all (like me - unless it's artistically beautiful)
I don't want to be a mindreader - please don't think that of me. :)
But am I right in speculating that you kinda want to protect the "Furries are pervs"-joke from becoming unfunny? It's a thing I've always wondered about when meeting people who kinda... WANT to believe that this is all about the porn.
Well, you are outright wrong on that - and I mean that in the most respectful way possible. :3
Just browse (!) at your leisure, without the SFW filter enabled, and COMPARE the amount of trivial cutesy animal art vs the amount of porn. It matches exactly!
Just a reminder: your watchlist isn't all of Furaffinity. :)
Just browse (!) at your leisure, without the SFW filter enabled, and COMPARE the amount of trivial cutesy animal art vs the amount of porn. It matches exactly!
Just a reminder: your watchlist isn't all of Furaffinity. :)
Unless someone is willing to give me $1000 dollars or more for NSFW artwork of my scalesona, I'm not doing it! Pr0n be stupid and a powerful time consumer that gets in the way of life. Live while you can rather than being glued to pr0n! Trust me, it'll ruin you. I know because that's what it did to me and a couple of family members too.
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