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Tuesday I went down to my aunt's house to set up her new computer and printer for her and I spent the night me and my bare Maxwell and I always bring Meeko with me to, when I got back on Wednesday Jimmy was at my house and was unloading this from his car is a fairly new GE convection oven that he picked up for an extremely low price *hugs you tight* and Thank You very much, I have to redo the wall section that this is going into as it is a lot bigger than my whole have set down most of the day trying to figure it out and I realized that I am going to have to take the whole section out and redo it as this is almost 3 inches bigger than my existing area that Depp is right but the whole size is a 25 inch and my existing oven is not even that big is 23 1/2 inches the overall length of this is 26 and 3/4 inches so I am going to have to remodel that section, and Jimmy did come up with a good idea of making it so I can install microwave above it so I will make it to where I can slide a microwave in over top of this oven and I will still have to replace the cook top as the cooktop that I have now I really don't like it just does not work the way it should, it takes at least an hour to boil a normal pot of water and I do not like the way that the cast-iron burners work on it they take too long to heat up too long to cool down and they do not regulate heat properly and I can get a brand-new whirlpool cooktop from Home Depot in matching white to this oven for $249.00 or we may be able to find a nice good cooktop around here somewhere for a lot cheaper.
Okays, okays You can't pawoff to this
Okays, okays You can't pawoff to this
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The 220 outlet in their house must've only been a three wire connection in that case they do connect the ground to the neutral this is the same in my house, and a lot of houses today on stoves and 220 air-conditioning units the supply wire is only three wire, two common one neutral and the ground is connected into the neutral wire.
Im an electrician and have never seen any 3 wire with no bond inside it. They dont count your bond wire as a conductor in any cable. If the wire is in metal conduit then the bond is often the metal pipe. Alot of country's i know of have a bond wire in there houses wiring its a huge safety item and required by laws in usa. canada. EU. ext maybe were you are its not required yet idk ? I thought you were an American?? The reason you are not allowed to piggyback the ground wire to the nutral is the neutral is a current carrying conductor. The ground is a non current carrying conductor and is ment to carry the unsafe voltages in the event of a short so you dont get shocked. If it was safe to use the neutral as a ground the factory would not include one from the stove to begin with. Now i know there is some rare exceptions on this to be safe Please check your local codes or better ask a licensed electrician to check your wireing out.
My house was built in 1968 and the supply line to the oven is only three wires there is actually no copper ground wire associated with this wiring, so the ground in neutral on the existing stove are connected.
The main supply line is only 10/3 which is red, black and white and which I've seen in several occasions that they do connect the ground wire with the white or neutral in these cases.
Not a licensed electrician but I have worked with electricity a lot and never had any problems, and yes I am in United States actually in Florida but I do have several friends that are licensed electricians I have talked to one and said that this is perfectly okay for my application, will consult others but right now it is sitting on my porch and I am not even going to be working on this until next month when I can afford to build the box for the oven to fit into.
Maybe I am not saying it right between Neutrals, Commons and Grounds but like I said I'm not a licensed electrician but this is the way the wiring was when it came out of the mobile home that it was installed in to begin with and further discussions with the people after seeing your post and talking with my friend says that I should not have any problems with this but I will be checking on it and if I have to I will run a new ground cable.
The main supply line is only 10/3 which is red, black and white and which I've seen in several occasions that they do connect the ground wire with the white or neutral in these cases.
Not a licensed electrician but I have worked with electricity a lot and never had any problems, and yes I am in United States actually in Florida but I do have several friends that are licensed electricians I have talked to one and said that this is perfectly okay for my application, will consult others but right now it is sitting on my porch and I am not even going to be working on this until next month when I can afford to build the box for the oven to fit into.
Maybe I am not saying it right between Neutrals, Commons and Grounds but like I said I'm not a licensed electrician but this is the way the wiring was when it came out of the mobile home that it was installed in to begin with and further discussions with the people after seeing your post and talking with my friend says that I should not have any problems with this but I will be checking on it and if I have to I will run a new ground cable.
Ahs i see now yes it was a common practice to use the neutral for a ground in the old days for 220 and yes you are still allowed for replacements in older homes it was some time in the 90s that it was made mandatory to not use it anymore the reason being is that the neutral dose carry return current and in the event of a short in the stove it can be possible to be shocked if your touching it and say something that is grounded. There is a cheater way to sove this with out runing new wiring is if the stove is close to your sink and you have metal water lines to it run a copper ground from thestoves junction box to the water line. Besure your water lines are bonded at some point tho. They should be it was required for almost ever lol. Once again tho being you have a post 90s home you will still technically be allowed to hook it up as it was i just recommend adding a ground if its possible for that extra level of safety :)
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